So what do Christians think of Muslims and Hindus?

[Xylitol]

I have nothing against them. I just think that they're mislead (all my biased opinion since I'm a Christian).

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Originally posted by: SoundTheSurrender
I thought one of the foundations in Christianity is not to judge others?

Indeed it is. All the evangelist preachers on campus do nothing but call the college girls whores and damn everyone around them to hell. Great way to garner followers really :roll:

They usually get shut the fuck up by either a. dudes with hangovers, b. loud college girls who actually fit their stereotype, c. me, but only on Wednesdays, d. loud booing
:laugh:

The two evangelist preachers that come and yak in front of the Subway on campus were once calling everyone out on going to hell, and I walked up to him and yelled "MY RELIGION TELLS ME NOT TO JUDGE OTHERS. GOD IS THE ULTIMATE JUDGE AND THERE SHOULD BE NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION."
Then he looked me square in the eye and said "I'm not judging you, I'm telling you the truth, MUSLIM (apparently he figured out I was somewhat quoting the Quran) YOU'RE GOING TO HELL!" Then I told him to go to hell and got uproarious applause from the people trying to eat their lunch, and also got into an enlightening conversation with a few Christians.


Allah said,
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(There is no compulsion in religion), meaning, "Do not force anyone to become Muslim, for Islam is plain and clear, and its proofs and evidence are plain and clear. Therefore, there is no need to force anyone to embrace Islam. Rather, whoever Allah directs to Islam, opens his heart for it and enlightens his mind, will embrace Islam with certainty. Whoever Allah blinds his heart and seals his hearing and sight, then he will not benefit from being forced to embrace Islam.''

Anytime someone tells me Islam is intolerant I quote that verse from the Quran.

 

[ThePresence]

Originally posted by: PolymerTim

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: engineereeyore

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: engineereeyore
Sorry to jump into this in the middle, but I do have an answer for your questions. All will have the opportunity to hear and accept the gospel of Jesus Christ, thereby covering all the cases you spoke of. This is the belief of the LDS church, which is not common to all Christiandom.

I assume you mean after death?
That is only an answer to someone who already shares your belief in Jesus.

Why would a belief in Jesus be necessary in order for this to happen? These events are provided for those who don't believe in him, or who have never been given the opportunity.

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what you're saying, so feel free to let me know where I'm missing you on this.

Those who don't believe in Jesus obviously don't believe that they will hear the gospel of Christ after death. Meaning, this answer will only satisfy someone who already belives in Jesus. It's all based on the same belief.

It sounds to me like you are looking for some kind of proof by logic that the tenets of Christianity are true. This goes against the very definition of faith.

I think it is hard to ask much more from a belief system than that it be self-consistent. Originally, you asked the question of what happens to those who are not exposed to Christian teachings before they die. While not all Christians have the same view on this, it is plausible that we will all be given the choice after death. Whether or not you believe this will happen does not affect whether or not it will happen.

If you do not believe in Jesus and his teachings then it is unlikely that anything anyone can say here will change that. What really are your expectations from an answer? What explanation or proof are you looking for?

I understand what you're saying. However, saying that it will happen after death to me seems like a cop-out of an answer. You can use that to answer practically any question. Secondly, if that were true what reason would there be to believe in this life? Why live with religious principles if you can just choose after death and be saved? And who in their right mind would refuse after death?

 

[PolymerTim]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: PolymerTim
It sounds to me like you are looking for some kind of proof by logic that the tenets of Christianity are true. This goes against the very definition of faith.

I think it is hard to ask much more from a belief system than that it be self-consistent. Originally, you asked the question of what happens to those who are not exposed to Christian teachings before they die. While not all Christians have the same view on this, it is plausible that we will all be given the choice after death. Whether or not you believe this will happen does not affect whether or not it will happen.

If you do not believe in Jesus and his teachings then it is unlikely that anything anyone can say here will change that. What really are your expectations from an answer? What explanation or proof are you looking for?

I understand what you're saying. However, saying that it will happen after death to me seems like a cop-out of an answer. You can use that to answer practically any question. Secondly, if that were true what reason would there be to believe in this life? Why live with religious principles if you can just choose after death and be saved? And who in their right mind would refuse after death?

It's fair to call it a cop-out, but no more so than saying something like "that's not a valid reason if you don't already believe." Such a response can also be used against pretty much any religious belief. Again, I think a nonbeliever can only expect self-consistency and maybe, to some extent, consistency with generally accepted facts and beliefs (of course this part gets fuzzy). Whether or not you believe it is up to you. You won't convert because a logical argument convinced you of it. That's not how faith works.

I came to believe in Christianity because many of its teachings made sense to me. I didn't choose to believe because I thought it was necessary to be saved, but because I already believed much of what was taught. I'm not good for memorizing verses, but there's a part in the bible that says the law is imprinted in every persons heart and that, even if they never hear of Christ, they will be held accountable to that law. I believe that those that hold true to the law imprinted in their hearts will have no trouble accepting Christ when the time is right. If a person thinks they can live this life in whatever way best suits themself and then convert at the end, then they never new Him, and He won't know them either.