So its NECESSARY to live a routine life?!!

[getbush]

Different strokes for different folks. Here are 3 options of many.

1. Be a broke starving artist but have fun at what you are doing. (until it gets old and you are left with not much to show for it)
2. Get a good education, get a secure high paying 9-5 and be able to leave work at work and enjoy your own time with generous disposable income.
3. Go into entrepeneurship, fail fail succeed fail maybe you get rich maybe you don't but you surely go bald and die of a heart attack at 54.

Can you tell which I personally am biased towards? I have two years left and I will have my Doctor of Pharmacy degree. The SO will be a Doctor of Optometry in four (just started). I plan to be the travelling, snowboarding, motorsports photographering etc. kind of robot. Maybe race karts or something bigger, maybe get a boat. I wouldn't have it any other way.

I guess I don't personally know anyone so jaded that they would wish someone to fail or not follow their dreams. I think whoever is advising the OP against persuing as a career is doing it out of general concern for his overall success. The OPs posts reek of teenage angst and delusions of invincibility and got it all figured-outness.

Oh and I agree with anyone who thinks PoloShirt is immature.

 

[flot]

What a bizarre thread.

To the OP, finish college. It is VERY easy to take off a semester (even one of the long ones, not a summer one) and SOMETIMES very easy to take off TWO semesters. However depending on your school, taking off a full year can really, really complicate things.

Most people who leave college for whatever reason never go back.

If you want to be a musican, be a musician. I have a few coworkers that are actually very enthusiastic musicans, play in bands, etc - and you would never guess it from their otherwise "routine" lives. I know one who struggles with the fact that the rest of his band is making 20-30k a year and waiting for their "big break" while he has a successful job, family, etc, and plays entirely on the side and for fun. He doesn't think there is any big break coming and he doesn't let it impact his job or family or "grown up" life - he is in it for the music.

 

[shadow9d9]

Originally posted by: Coldkilla
Alright.. I've had it. I go to work, and see 100s of people just walk into their little office buildings, probably go home to the wife and the kids.. live their little lives.. and then poof..

I grow up, resentfully going to college.. and have a band that's been going at it for 6+ years with no signs of stopping.. We want to take a year off college, so we can try and see what we can do as a band for a year or so.. and if nothing happens within that time.. we go back to education/daily boring lives.. but I continuously get slammed by co-workers, family members, parents.. on how much a waste of time it is..

WTF is wrong with trying to be different, trying to be creative and enjoy doing it.. and NOT having a routein..

Example, kids get born.. they learn the "routein" by going to school everyday, they get out.. they get a desk 9-5 job.. get married, have kids.. die.. um.. WTF?! How can these people say... oh that's fine with ME! Buy HEY YOU, your an idiot for trying to make it somewhere with your band.. your only young once.. and wasting all of it on education that can be re-entered at any age.. young or old..

What's the world coming to when more and more people are like robots.. is it wrong for me to question? I just dont get it.. enlighten me..

"
I grow up, resentfully going to college"

You must be going to the wrong college...

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: shadow9d9

"I grow up, resentfully going to college"

You must be going to the wrong college...

On that note, there's a question that hasn't been asked.

OP: Who is paying for your tuition, room and board? Who will pay for your room and board when you take a year off?

 

[Coldkilla]

I pay for my own tuition. I get my own scholarships/grants. I pay for my own transportation, food, clothing. Completely cut off from parents.

shadow9d9: You must be going to the wrong college...

I hate college, I don't talk to anyone, haven't met anyone and don't care to. This isn't just some "angst" thing, it's my firm believe. There's a good 30-40% of people here who are saying "Follow your dreams" but with the lack of educated responces with those few, I begin to find them less informative than the critisized one's. About 40% say stay in college, screw your band. Here's the thing, I don't care if we "make it" or not. As long as we keep working hard at it, I could eat crumbs. I don't care.

To b0mberman: The question hasn't been asked but has been, to a degree answered: "I live on my own, in a 4br studio with my band"

There's some stupid motive that money = happiness. I think that's a crock of BS. I've never been rich, I know some rich people but could care less about them because, that was their life choice. Having a "6 Figure Income, Huge House, Family, Vacations, w/e.." doesn't interest me. Living on the edge, and trying to break the invisable barriers that our society has created does. Oh, and stop bragging about your damn financial stability and your urge to brag about your damn house/living standards. Seem's more like a bragging rights contest more than anything.

It's like, today.. You are born, you are put this idea into your head: You wake up, go to school every day.. the same time, and go to the same place, come home at the same time.. This "ideal" is carried on through college, to work, to social live's... and beyond. This "routein" is something I see as completely insane. Now I am not advocating to deal away with this system, I merely am giving an example on how the system works and finds its way into the inner workings of each individual. I think its stupid to "do the same thing" everyday at your job. Money or no money. Money, asaf should never be part of the equation.

I will let some brag about their big boats and the retirement plans, but I don't know about you but being on call 24/7 and working 50 hours a week is stupid.

Now college is starting to give me an ever increasing pain in my ass. I'm forced to stay up at (least once a week) 24+ hours to keep up in school. At least 6+ hours of study per night, 1 hour travel to school and an additional hour back. I work to pay for rent/car/nessessities... There's no time for me to sit down.. And I feel as if I'm throwing my only chance at anything I truely want to do out of the window.. but there's millions of people who just resent the fact that I dispise the typical "american system".. of life..

 

[shadow9d9]

"shadow9d9: You must be going to the wrong college...

I hate college, I don't talk to anyone, haven't met anyone and don't care to. "

That's kinda my point.. you must be going to the wrong college.

 

[NanoStuff]

My friends always ask me why the hell do I spend so much time in front of the computer. I tell them I'm preparing for the singularity. Pretty much ends the conversation right there

 

[skyking]

OP, for you the motivation is not there. If it were, those problems you are facing with college would be easy. If it hurts, don't do it.
I don't know why exactly you are asking here for advice about it. You already know what is right for you, so do it. No need to start arguments with a bunch of internet strangers, do your own thing man

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Coldkilla
WTF is wrong with trying to be different, trying to be creative and enjoy doing it.. and NOT having a routein..

You're not trying to be different. You're trying to do something that countless thousands before you have tried. It has a high risk probability. People aren't just warning you because they want you to be the "same" as everyone else, they're pointing out what is "best" for your future - like I said, this isn't anythign new.

If it matters that much to you, why not just finish college, THEN take time off before you start working. That way you'll have a backup plan.

 

[sonambulo]

post some mp3s and then we can tell you right away whether or not to do it

 

[Staples]

Most people will never go back to school once they quit. No one wants you to quit.

 

[Molondo]

Something tells me Kurt Kobein had the same idea as you....

 

[bennylong]

"but there's millions of people who just resent the fact that I dispise the typical "american system".. of life.. "

I thought you were living the typical american system? Take time off college and be a bum? The typical "american system" isn't going straight to work, and save for retirement and retire at age 55 anymore. The typical american is you now, that's right, you emo. Living paycheck to paycheck

 

[Rayden]

Go watch Office Space. It has the answers.

 

[lyssword]

Originally posted by: NanoStuff
My friends always ask me why the hell do I spend so much time in front of the computer. I tell them I'm preparing for the singularity. Pretty much ends the conversation right there

wtf? Do tell more

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Coldkilla
Alright.. I've had it. I go to work, and see 100s of people just walk into their little office buildings, probably go home to the wife and the kids.. live their little lives.. and then poof..

I grow up, resentfully going to college.. and have a band that's been going at it for 6+ years with no signs of stopping.. We want to take a year off college, so we can try and see what we can do as a band for a year or so.. and if nothing happens within that time.. we go back to education/daily boring lives.. but I continuously get slammed by co-workers, family members, parents.. on how much a waste of time it is..

WTF is wrong with trying to be different, trying to be creative and enjoy doing it.. and NOT having a routein..

Example, kids get born.. they learn the "routein" by going to school everyday, they get out.. they get a desk 9-5 job.. get married, have kids.. die.. um.. WTF?! How can these people say... oh that's fine with ME! Buy HEY YOU, your an idiot for trying to make it somewhere with your band.. your only young once.. and wasting all of it on education that can be re-entered at any age.. young or old..

What's the world coming to when more and more people are like robots.. is it wrong for me to question? I just dont get it.. enlighten me..

follow dreams. They may sometimes not pay your bills...but at least you have lived your day like you wanted.

People are sheep. They follow and think saying while following how they are so much better actually makes them better.

I live my life for myself and my society. Most live for themselves only.

 

[bennylong]

Follow your dreams, ColdKilla.

You can reach your goal. I'm living proof. Beefcake! Beeeeeeeefcake!

http://members.tripod.com/Iced_Gold/soundz/102_follow.wav

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Coldkilla
I've known my bandmates since I was 3... and we could never replace eachother.. if we broke up, we'd never hire another guitar player or bass player.. a band will hardly last 4-5 years just picking a guy up the street.. the chemistry that happens in peoples minds is always changing.. fights are easier to get out of hand, you have an easier time saying "allright thats it, screw you guys, im finding another bandmember"... that's my firm believe..

Chances are the bold-faced text above just killed your dreams or possibly theirs.

Business is business. Friendship is friendship....unfortunately it's rare they realistically collide.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: flot

Most people who leave college for whatever reason never go back.

True...I skipped out of a job that paid me about 2x in today's money 10 years ago to start back in 2000.

I turned down Pharmacy college...and Med.

Don't know if that was my best choice now...but I have free time.

This year I am shooting for a major raise. I developed their online application that brings in about 1/2 of them now, previously it was about 30 impartial ones a month, now we get 10-20+ per day all fully completed. We are a Fortune 400.

Personally my goal is to just stay in college, keep learning and doing. Unfortunately it doesn't pay my bills.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: getbush
Different strokes for different folks. Here are 3 options of many.

1. Be a broke starving artist but have fun at what you are doing. (until it gets old and you are left with not much to show for it)
2. Get a good education, get a secure high paying 9-5 and be able to leave work at work and enjoy your own time with generous disposable income.
3. Go into entrepeneurship, fail fail succeed fail maybe you get rich maybe you don't but you surely go bald and die of a heart attack at 54.

Can you tell which I personally am biased towards? I have two years left and I will have my Doctor of Pharmacy degree. The SO will be a Doctor of Optometry in four (just started). I plan to be the travelling, snowboarding, motorsports photographering etc. kind of robot. Maybe race karts or something bigger, maybe get a boat. I wouldn't have it any other way.

I guess I don't personally know anyone so jaded that they would wish someone to fail or not follow their dreams. I think whoever is advising the OP against persuing as a career is doing it out of general concern for his overall success. The OPs posts reek of teenage angst and delusions of invincibility and got it all figured-outness.

Oh and I agree with anyone who thinks PoloShirt is immature.

Pharmacy is 9-5? I think only if you are lucky.

 

[Mo0o]

Going by your poor grammar and utter inability to spell, 12 years of education obviously did nothing for you. You might as well just drop out of college now. Going by your desire to stay with your garage band of fellow stoners you obviously have no interest in school and the 4 years you waste going to college will be just as unproductive as the last 12. So when you graduate you'll still be considered an idiot, except you'll be an idiot without a band.

 

[xanis]

From what I've gathered thus far, people have very different opinions on what you should do. I'm actually pretty surprised that would come and ask for opinions on what to do with your life from some people who you don't even know. That's not to say that some of the advice given hasn't been good, because I've seen some good advice. I partially agree with you in that I'm not a huge fan of routine and conformity, but your whole attitude seems... wrong.

I'm not going to judge your band's talent because I haven't heard any of your stuff, but making it big is extremely difficult. Even with your band being together for 6 years, it's highly unlikely that you'll make it big. However, I still feel strongly that you should do what you want and have no regrets, even if there's a slim chance that anything will become of it. Despite what you or I may think about your ideas, your whole attitude still seems to be flawed. You say that you despise college, yet it seems like you haven't really made an effort to get anything out of college. College isn't just another learning institution, it's another life experience. I'm not saying that you need to conform and have a stereotypical college experience filled with parties, drinking and frats, but you don't need to be a total introvert and cut yourself off from the world entirely, like you've been doing.

All of that being said, I suggest you finish college while playing with your band in your spare time, and get a degree to fall back on should your band not work out. Work and save up a little money, then go do your band thing. I agree that you don't want to look back on your life and have regrets, but I think you really need to think things through first before you go out and dedicate your life to a band.

 

[ShadowOfMyself]

Please, never make another topic on AT asking about your personal life, specially when you critize de general population... Ever seen The Matrix? Its quite real actually, thats why the movie rocks...

Most people just cant see outside the box, no matter what you do, this will probably never change... So they are stuck in the "system" thinking they have the greatest lifes because of their big house and children and whatever, just like you said... And you can see that just from some calling you "EMO" just because you dont share their view!

I would recommend finnish college because I know from self experience that its VERY HARD to go back... But OTOH, motivation is everything, and I understand completely if you really want to take a break!

Now, I would like some of these "you are an idiot for xxx and blabla teenage angst and whatever you come up with" to tell me something:

Lets suppose Iron Maiden were starting out now, and he was one of the member, would you have said the same knowing he would be totally rich in a few years from now?

Automatic answer - "But he is not one of them, and blabla" - HOW DO YOU KNOW? Just because he has slim chances of success, doesnt mean it wont happen, it CAN very well happen, and hes ENJOYING himself while at it! And what is life all about? ENJOYING yourself, because you only have one chance... So he has a point about robots, and you flaming him for trying something which few try and many have failed, doesnt make you any better or smarter, its his choice and his life, and he does whatever he wants

 

[MemoryInAGarden]

Don't like the college that you're at or have been to? Go somewhere else. Not all colleges or the people who attend them are similar. You can even find diversity at your own school. Go outside of a building that primarily hosts business classes, then go to a building that primarily hosts social sciences classes. There is a profound difference in the social and economic backgrounds of the students, not to mention their general attitudes. There are people that have similar interests to you at your college; you just haven't found the correct channels through which to meet them.

Taking a semester off can be a healthy respite, but it is easy to find yourself caught up in the rigmarole of day-to-day survival and not be able to return. You'll be running on the treadmill which you despise. Check into your financial aid to see if you will even be able to retain it. To truly live outside the box, your basic, universal needs must be assured, THEN you can focus on the unconventional "wants and desires." You've got the desire to do something alternative, but you lack a plan and aren't properly directed.

I'm planning on getting my PhD in political science and either teaching at the university level or working in what could largely be termed "international relations and diplomacy." I do everything I can to assure that this happens, from checking out good graduate schools, to internship opportunities, to helping teach other people about the government and politics, to getting involved in political campaigns, etc. This isn't the typical American job, and it may not be the most remunerative field around, but I enjoy what I'm doing. I'm the type that doesn't enjoy trips to the beach or to exotic places; I'd prefer to be doing something academic. I don't need a certain make of car, a certain style or brand of clothing, or to live in a certain location or have a certain quality of housing (within reason) in order to be happy.

March to the beat of your own drum, but don't neglect basic needs. You're also not likely to go as far if you don't have someone with whom you can share your passions.

 

[alphatarget1]

You spelled "routine" wrong.