Or 20 years from now, he and those same buddies who all became accountants and computer programmers will look back and laugh at that silly band thing they almost tried...
Or 20 years from now, he and those same buddies who all became accountants and computer programmers will look back and laugh at that silly band thing they almost tried...
You are a robot! Let my over generalize you:
1. Get born
2. Play music
3. Die....WTF?!?!
I live a "robotic" wife. I went to college, got married in college, had kids in college, and now have a routine job in a field I love. And yes, I will die. I guess you could say I was born, went to college, had kids, and will die. That is in the same sense that Columbus got on a boat, discovered a few new places, and died. You are sorta leaving out REALLY big pieces.
What have I done with my college education and "boring" life?
1. 6 figure salary
2. Building a nice house
3. Own nice vehicles
4. Have a wonderful family that I enjoy all the time
5. Have friends I hang out with
6. Go to the lake with the boat, wakeboard, ski, tube, lounge
7. Business travel. So far: Phoenix, Dallas, Chicago, Florida
8. Pleasure travel. Own a timeshare in Vegas. Went to the Dominican Republic last year, Hawaii the year before. Planning a trip to Hawaii and Vegas this year. Fiji in a couple years.
9. Play video games, watch movies, stay in bed on Sunday mornings with my wife and talk, wrestle, play with the kids.
10. Rewarded every day knowing I am doing good, saving money for retirement and kids college. I want to retire with a yacht and sail the south pacific.
All at 25 because I worked hard!
Lets see...does that seem robotic? It certainly isn't unique. It is somewhat the norm; it is the collective American dream. It sounds like you are just another emo who wants to be different. Remember: you are unique. Just like everyone else.
I would never trade my life for the life of a band member. Same parties, same girls, same songs, different city. And that is if you make it. Sure, some make it, and Sully from Godsmack has THE life. However, you won't be him. Ever.
Grow up. Finish your degree and quite pidgeonholing people because you find life hard. You are trying to rationalize your mediocracy.
1. Get born
2. Play music
3. Die....WTF?!?!
I live a "robotic" wife. I went to college, got married in college, had kids in college, and now have a routine job in a field I love. And yes, I will die. I guess you could say I was born, went to college, had kids, and will die. That is in the same sense that Columbus got on a boat, discovered a few new places, and died. You are sorta leaving out REALLY big pieces.
What have I done with my college education and "boring" life?
1. 6 figure salary
2. Building a nice house
3. Own nice vehicles
4. Have a wonderful family that I enjoy all the time
5. Have friends I hang out with
6. Go to the lake with the boat, wakeboard, ski, tube, lounge
7. Business travel. So far: Phoenix, Dallas, Chicago, Florida
8. Pleasure travel. Own a timeshare in Vegas. Went to the Dominican Republic last year, Hawaii the year before. Planning a trip to Hawaii and Vegas this year. Fiji in a couple years.
9. Play video games, watch movies, stay in bed on Sunday mornings with my wife and talk, wrestle, play with the kids.
10. Rewarded every day knowing I am doing good, saving money for retirement and kids college. I want to retire with a yacht and sail the south pacific.
All at 25 because I worked hard!
Lets see...does that seem robotic? It certainly isn't unique. It is somewhat the norm; it is the collective American dream. It sounds like you are just another emo who wants to be different. Remember: you are unique. Just like everyone else.
I would never trade my life for the life of a band member. Same parties, same girls, same songs, different city. And that is if you make it. Sure, some make it, and Sully from Godsmack has THE life. However, you won't be him. Ever.
Grow up. Finish your degree and quite pidgeonholing people because you find life hard. You are trying to rationalize your mediocracy.
"Nice" is relative.
Unless your house costs 8 figures (or even 9), don't tell anyone how "successful" you are.
There is more to life than leased Chevy Tahoes, cookie cutter houses, and package vacations.
Okay ColdKilla, ^this^ is solid advice. :thumbsup:
I spent my teens, all of my twenties and the first two years of my thirties going after "the dream". Of the myriad of bands I played in, I felt 2 had a legitimate shot. One of them had a good local following and we managed to even get a couple small area tours going.
I never went to college because I thought "I'm a musician...I don't need the education" or whatever other lame-ass excuse I came up with. Instead I threw paper for large off-set printing presses during the day so I could do my thing at night. Vacation time, if I had any, was used for those small tours that never made us a damn dime and we rarely broke even.
Yes, I had a lot of fun and I have "war stories" to tell the grandkids and I really understand where you're coming from because some friends, family said similar things to me.
I am not trying to persuade you NOT to follow your dream but rather persuade you to do it smart! Finish college...you will always have that to fall back on and you will be miles ahead of all the other musicians (like me) who chose to go the route I did and didn't "make it".
FWIW, I'm early 40's and just finished my AA degree and will continue on to the bachelors but it has been one long road with more than a few potholes along the way.
Do you have a 9 figure house?
I am very succesfull by most standards. I am not rich, but very well off.
Cookie cutter house? Try a custom 5300 sq. ft. on 3 acres with bamboo floors, theater, gourmet kitchen, and much more.
Yes, there is more to life than those things. Please tell me what else there is that I missed stating.
Did it ever occur to you that his dream might be different than yours?
And wouldn't you say that you are pidgeonholing him much in the same way you say that he is?
And lastly.. why does someone who wants to pursue something like playing music have to be typecast as "emo"?
Hmmm...Bill Gates was an ordinary software developer.
The founders of Google were ordinary students with a PhD idea.
Donald Trump didn't inherit his money.
Please, tell me what YOU do that is so great. :moon::roll:
No? How does $13 millions sound? If you start right after college, making $65k at your boring job, assuming you never get another raise(unlikely), and max out your 401k and IRA, at $19,000, you would end up with
your investment will be worth $12,955,087 assuming 10% return.
$13 million is a lot to me. At 3% inflation, it will "only" be worth $5 million
I could argue with you about what "rich" means, but would rather say that extraordinary jobs have sure made an awful lot of people poor.
I said it was the general American Dream, which it is. Look it up. The part you bolded was a statement to show him that even though he thinks he is so unique, so is everyone else.
I was generalizing his choice in much the same way he generalizes everyone elses. Maybe if he didn't come here with a "you all are so boring and robotic" attitude it would be different.
He is acting emo because of his attitude, not because he plays music.
I'm going to attempt to live that sort of life. I will probably fail. But atleast I will have tried.
And your house? Composite roof, right? Brick front? Cheap hollow doors? You impress no one. If 5,300 sqft was as big of a house as I would ever live in, I would feel like a failure.
I live in a condo however, a upscale, albiet small one (1,500 sqft). I'm not even close to bragging or pretending I'm some bigshot.
I'm just defending anyone who ever tried to do something different with their life other than the "same old."
Bill Gates primary job was NEVER a software developer. He was an owner and CEO. That's where you make the money.
Same with Google guys and Trump.
Let me restate this: I am not saying I am rich. But I do have financial security and very nice things. I don't anticipate payday because I don't have to; I don't live paycheck to paycheck. I'm not worried much about retirement (except healthcare...hmmm..) I do a lot of fun things. I am not saying that family is for everyone, or an expensive house or vacations. But all in all, I bet you would trade your life for mine. Or anyone else here like me (there seem to be a lot of us who are well off and happy.)
And while I do work 6:00 - 2:30 every day doing pretty much the same things, please explain to me how that is different than playing the same songs for three hours every night?
And while I do work 6:00 - 2:30 every day doing pretty much the same things, please explain to me how that is different than playing the same songs for three hours every night?
It's easy to give romantic advice when it's not your life at stake.
I don't think you seriously believe that the world is black and white and there are only two professions: boring job you hate that makes a steady income, and an exciting job you love where median income is below the poverty level. There is a ton of gray between the two extremes.
Coldkilla, it's not that one is necessarily criticizing your lifestyle but more so that there is a general concern for how your present choices will affect you down the road. The people close to you want to see you succeed and live happy. To them, success and happiness equate to money. Just evaluate their position and yours so that you can make an accurate comparison between the two.
OR (maybe AND) in ten years complain how they're three years off track because of that one year they took off.
...and how it ended up not being nearly as awesome as they had imagined
You didn't factor in inflation. Over a 40 year period like that, your money will only have a "real value" of about 1/4th. So that $13m will be $3.25m. That makes you just another face in the crowd.
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