So its NECESSARY to live a routine life?!!

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: ShadowOfMyself
Lets suppose Iron Maiden were starting out now, and he was one of the member, would you have said the same knowing he would be totally rich in a few years from now?

What if Frank Higgenbothem were one of the members? What would you say?



Looking at the extremes as binary outcomes is worthless.

And if the mode doesn't suit you, at least look at the median.

So he has a point about robots, and you flaming him for trying something which few try and many have failed, doesnt make you any better or smarter, its his choice and his life, and he does whatever he wants

Of course he will, but he did ask for ATOT's opinion.

Originally posted by: Coldkilla

WTF is wrong with trying to be different, trying to be creative and enjoy doing it.. and NOT having a routein..

 

[Coldkilla]

You don't have to be "mainstream" to make it big.. or even on the average national acts. "Making it big" in my opinion, is having a band that's been around for 15+ years and still kickin ass. It's not so much a "hobby" but more like a drug.. we'll play, we'll get mad at ourselfs.. and we'll jump back on the horse again in the near future. Did you know, band's just like Metallica, etc.. lived off practically dirt trying to make their first albums.. they lived it.. and if they ever came to atot.. they'd never see the light of day..

Please, never make another topic on AT asking about your personal life, specially when you critize de general population... Ever seen The Matrix? Its quite real actually, thats why the movie rocks...

Most people just cant see outside the box, no matter what you do, this will probably never change... So they are stuck in the "system" thinking they have the greatest lifes because of their big house and children and whatever, just like you said... And you can see that just from some calling you "EMO" just because you dont share their view!

I would recommend finnish college because I know from self experience that its VERY HARD to go back... But OTOH, motivation is everything, and I understand completely if you really want to take a break!

Now, I would like some of these "you are an idiot for xxx and blabla teenage angst and whatever you come up with" to tell me something:

Lets suppose Iron Maiden were starting out now, and he was one of the member, would you have said the same knowing he would be totally rich in a few years from now?

Automatic answer - "But he is not one of them, and blabla" - HOW DO YOU KNOW? Just because he has slim chances of success, doesnt mean it wont happen, it CAN very well happen, and hes ENJOYING himself while at it! And what is life all about? ENJOYING yourself, because you only have one chance... So he has a point about robots, and you flaming him for trying something which few try and many have failed, doesnt make you any better or smarter, its his choice and his life, and he does whatever he wants

:beer:^:thumbsup:

 

[yhelothar]

Originally posted by: ShadowOfMyself
Please, never make another topic on AT asking about your personal life, specially when you critize de general population... Ever seen The Matrix? Its quite real actually, thats why the movie rocks...

Most people just cant see outside the box, no matter what you do, this will probably never change... So they are stuck in the "system" thinking they have the greatest lifes because of their big house and children and whatever, just like you said... And you can see that just from some calling you "EMO" just because you dont share their view!

I would recommend finnish college because I know from self experience that its VERY HARD to go back... But OTOH, motivation is everything, and I understand completely if you really want to take a break!

Now, I would like some of these "you are an idiot for xxx and blabla teenage angst and whatever you come up with" to tell me something:

Lets suppose Iron Maiden were starting out now, and he was one of the member, would you have said the same knowing he would be totally rich in a few years from now?

Automatic answer - "But he is not one of them, and blabla" - HOW DO YOU KNOW? Just because he has slim chances of success, doesnt mean it wont happen, it CAN very well happen, and hes ENJOYING himself while at it! And what is life all about? ENJOYING yourself, because you only have one chance... So he has a point about robots, and you flaming him for trying something which few try and many have failed, doesnt make you any better or smarter, its his choice and his life, and he does whatever he wants

:thumbsup:

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Coldkilla
You don't have to be "mainstream" to make it big.. or even on the average national acts. "Making it big" in my opinion, is having a band that's been around for 15+ years and still kickin ass. It's not so much a "hobby" but more like a drug.. we'll play, we'll get mad at ourselfs.. and we'll jump back on the horse again in the near future. Did you know, band's just like Metallica, etc.. lived off practically dirt trying to make their first albums.. they lived it.. and if they ever came to atot.. they'd never see the light of day..

Many bands/acts today don't do well at all for the first few albums...it used to be the first one was the company's more or less then you started getting a better cut...now they are writing ridiculous contracts and the artists have no way around it esp with clear channel controlling the concert locations, the radio play, and the media distribution.

It sucks and keeps alot of good music out of most people's hands.

 

[Coldkilla]

My Dad's guitar player couldn't agree more. Heard him talking about something like that at their band practice the other day.. and my father's been in the music biz for 35+ years.

 

[Turin39789]

LOL. Save thread and read in 4 years.

 

[lokiju]

Based off of your spelling I'd suggest sticking with the school thing.

But it's a known fact that people are "dream stealers" and will stop at nothing to watch you fail, just tell them all to STFU and go for it if thats your true passion & dream.

Chances are you'll never go back to school, even if the music thing doesn't work out after a year.

 

[Bill Brasky]

At least get your degree first. In my group of friends, it has been common for people to take a year or two off between levels of schooling or before getting a serious job. Once you have your degree, go give 'em hell, but it's unlikely you'll go back to school if you stop now.

 

[mercanucaribe]

Umm.. isn't this the guy who wants to move into a house with his band, for no real reason?

 

[imported_Crusader]

You can question society.

But if you dont fall in line with being a productive, working, tax paying citizen you will pay the price financially and other ways.

Basically, it can really suck if you cant handle going to work everyday and contributing to society.

 

[Coldkilla]

Read in 4 years? HA! Good one. That I shall

 

[zebano]

Originally posted by: PoloShirt

Originally posted by: pinion9
The boring job makes it possible to live the high life outside of work.

No ordinary job has ever made anyone rich, ever.

Dude, stop posting, you don't know of what you speak. Savings + Compound interest = wealth. It doesn't matter how much you make, it matters how much you spend on extravagent stuff, and how much you save.

 

[zebano]

Originally posted by: Coldkilla
I pay for my own tuition. I get my own scholarships/grants. I pay for my own transportation, food, clothing. Completely cut off from parents.

shadow9d9: You must be going to the wrong college...

I hate college, I don't talk to anyone, haven't met anyone and don't care to. This isn't just some "angst" thing, it's my firm believe. There's a good 30-40% of people here who are saying "Follow your dreams" but with the lack of educated responces with those few, I begin to find them less informative than the critisized one's. About 40% say stay in college, screw your band. Here's the thing, I don't care if we "make it" or not. As long as we keep working hard at it, I could eat crumbs. I don't care.

Seeing as you set yourself up for failure (or at least a miserable time) you might as well quit. Sometimes life is the only teacher who can get through to people, and who knows, you just might make it.

 

[rgwalt]

Quiting school (disenrolling) is not a good idea. I would recommend that you stay enrolled in at least one class per semester during your year off, just to stay continuously enrolled. That way it looks like you took 5 or 6 years for college, not that you quit and then came back.

I would not do this if you have any kind of scholarship or financial assitance, because often times disenrolling will screw that up.

This all being said, personally I would not go for it. If your band takes off, you aren't guaranteed of being able to play for a lifetime, or sell enough media, merch, and play enough concerts to stay afloat for a lifetime. Personally, I would insist on finishing my education and then I would give it a go. Maybe work on a degree that would compliment your music career, like something in acoustics or even just a business degree.

Always leave yourself outs. Sure it is safe and a little boring, but you need the ability to provide for yourself if the music thing doesn't work out.

R

 

[desteffy]

Do you want to take a break from school because your band has so many gigs and travels so much that school is getting in the way?

... or...

Do you just "need" more hours to practice in your friends/basement or garage so you guys can get "really awesome!"?

If its the first, I'd say give it a go, if its the second, just learn to manager your time better.

 

[Fritzo]

There's an old joke:

Q: What's the difference between a musician and a large pepperoni pizza?

A: The pizza is able to feed a family of 4.

Dude, I went down the same path you did. Band in high school, got pretty popular, band in college, got very popular, started playing gigs all over the place, recorded a demo.. Then reality set in:

1) The music industry is nearly impossible to get into these days- you might as well spend all of your money on lottery tickets. You'll have a better chance of winning.
2) Most pro musicians scrape by financially, unless you get a gig making things like jingles or production music.
3) The most meaningless office job will pay more and offer some kind of health benefits. Most musicians make a lousy $250 or so a week from gigging, then have to supplement with giving 8 year olds lessons at music stores or being the "Can I help you?" guy at Guitar Center.

The fantasy of a rock star is fun to thing to think about, but it's not something that can be reached by 99.9999% of people- plus the music industry is more focused on pop "synthesized" music these days. Unless you're a hot blond chick with big boobs, forget it. The rock star of the 70's that we all aspire to be is dead.

I finished school, got a great job, have a great life, and I still gig at least once a month. Trust me- it's a much better way to live than the "devote my life to music" course. The status of my former band mates that went the all music route:

Bass Player- John is dead from a tainted cocaine dose in Denver back in 2002

Drummer- Mike is in jail on drug and rape charges

Singer- Dave has disappeared, but last I heard from him was from a bar owner a couple of years ago who said he was living in his car.

Rhythm guitar- Barry became a teacher. Not sure if he's a music teacher, but he's teaching at a local high school now.

Engineer- Larry is still doing lighting and sound boards for our city's special events board.

The people that are trying to advise you just care about your future. Think about WHY they're suggesting what they are instead of thinking of it as they're trying to run your life.

 

[Alphathree33]

Get a life you retard, the OP and the rest of the world don't need people like you.

OP: If you think you have a shot with music, GO FOR IT. Routine IS boring.

 

[Poulsonator]

Originally posted by: Coldkilla
Im not saying everyone is like this, I'm just saying the majority.. and I think if you don't make it anywhere by the time your 21.. you wont make it anyway.. so if your in school till your 22-23.. you missed the boat.. and you can never go back

You had me until you said this. If you don't make it anywhere by the time you're 21 you won't make it anyway? Riiiiight.

Good luck with all that.

 

[Coldkilla]

As someone said.. you dont have blonde hair and big boobs you wont make it... metaphorically speaking, you come out of the gates with gray hair and balding, your already out of the boat..

Im not saying this as a contrastitive fact but: It's not really even about talent anymore, its about looks. Metallica/BLS/Slayer/Disturbed/Pantera/ aren't pretty.. but they aren't new ether.. There are no metal bands anymore that are new.. everyone's listening to the old guys try and renew themselves.. which by the way.. sucks. I think its prime time to get in the game.. waiting around until i got more hair on my back than bigfoot wont get me anywhere..

but sadly i do understand the "falling back onto college if it dont work ideal".. thing is, my band quit smoking pot/drugs 2 years ago and have been clean since.. plus have reduced their drinking habbits, all due to bands falling apart due to situations like the guy's above.. we learn and won't make those same mistakes. We win battle's after battle's, and I know we have potential.. but im torn between options and I know for a fact choosing one over the other will raise consequences.. which leads me to wanting to take some time off.. idk

 

[LanceM]

I assume an mp3 has not been posted?

Do whatever makes you happy. In my case, my quality of life is at its highest when I have a solid, well-paying job and a wife that loves me (check and check). I have free time for my hobbies, and enough income to live comfortably.

However... if you feel that you can accept the consequences of NOT "making it big," then go right ahead. Just don't go around thinking that everything will be ok if your band fails, because it is NOT easy being poor and your safety nets (family and such) may not be around in the future.

 

[acemcmac]

What is the point of this thread? You're not happy? Want to set yourself apart?

STFU AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!

Go ahead and drop out of school if you think you'll be better for it. You can also put even MORE effort into it and graduate early. I got a year of my life back by doing that.

...or you can whine about it here?