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Smack that booty? Congrats, you go to jail!

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fierydemise

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Did anyone actually read the article?
Roache interviewed 14 students besides Cornelison and Mashburn. Seven confessed to bottom-swatting, including one girl who described it as "a handshake we do." Two of the alleged victims said they had swatted boys' buttocks themselves.
 

Gooberlx2

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Originally posted by: ahurtt
Obviously you, and likely most of the other people here who think the cops and the principle and the parents of the young women are overreacting are looking at it from only the boys side of the fence. Stop and actually put yourself in the shoes of the girls in this situation. Think about it. Really think about it. How would you feel? I know there's no way I'm going to get an honest answer in this forum full of chauvinists incapable of empathizing with others. Go ahead and continue to blame the victims here. Those bitches! How dare they go to school with the expectation they have the right not to be molested by classmates!

I can look at the situation from the girls' point of view. It's unfortunate any were made to feel uncomfortable. They should expect be able to go to school without being mistreated by classmates. No one denies that. No one is blaming them.

In fact, no one is saying the boys should get off. What most everyone is saying is that involving the criminal justice system is entirely unnecessary. You've said yourself that such harsh punishment would be unwarranted. The school is fully equipped to discipline boys for this kind of problem through detention (both after school and weekend), suspension, un-fun jobs (cafeteria trash duty for example), banishment from sports and even expulsion if it came to that.

With all that the school is able to do, I'm dumbfounded that the justice system was ever even considered, much less utilized. It's so over-the-top absurd.
 

thecoolnessrune

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I think the punishment is a bit harsh. However, I think there should be a severe punishment for it.

Then again, 10 years is a hell of a lot better of a punishment than if i had ran into them ^_^
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: ahurtt
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Originally posted by: ahurtt
Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
They should be punished, but ten years in jail is ridiculous. A good ass whipping would be more appropriate.

They haven't even been to court yet. Everybody is getting all bent out of shape like they've already been convicted. That ten year sentence is just the maximum allowable but I promise you they are NOT going to get that. They are not going to get anywhere close to that. What they are going to get is hopefully scared straight.

No, people are bent out of shape because of the very idea that courts would even be involved. It's a gross overreation on the part of the principle, the cop, and the girl's mother.

"Intervention"? Please, give me a break. The kids need a week's detention (which I always thought was more effective than suspension). But I suppose I, and others, are wasting time arguing with you. You've convincingly shown that you're exactly the type of person the majority of us are so pissed at on this issue.

Obviously you, and likely most of the other people here who think the cops and the principle and the parents of the young women are overreacting are looking at it from only the boys side of the fence. Stop and actually put yourself in the shoes of the girls in this situation. Think about it. Really think about it. How would you feel? I know there's no way I'm going to get an honest answer in this forum full of chauvinists incapable of empathizing with others. Go ahead and continue to blame the victims here. Those bitches! How dare they go to school with the expectation they have the right not to be molested by classmates!


We have a serious misconception here....
Molestation -- hardly...
school kid prank....yes...
jail time and being on the sex offenders list -- priceless and thoughtless and just downright wrong!!

Why should these kids be branded for life?
Most of us have at one time or another grabbed a girls behind in gradeschool and hollared--Wooagaaaa!!!!

Should they be punished YES-- but th punishment shoulds fit the prank....

get a life all those who have no concern about these kids being labeled as sex offenders the rest of there lives...

Things that make you go hmmmmm
 

Whisper

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Originally posted by: ahurtt
Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
They should be punished, but ten years in jail is ridiculous. A good ass whipping would be more appropriate.

They haven't even been to court yet. Everybody is getting all bent out of shape like they've already been convicted. That ten year sentence is just the maximum allowable but I promise you they are NOT going to get that. They are not going to get anywhere close to that. What they are going to get is hopefully scared straight.

The fact that they were threatened with a charge that carries up to 10 years in jail as a maximum punishment is what's wrong with this situation. The amount of money and time spent in no way is justified by the severity (or lack thereof) of the offense.

It would seem that the butt slapping for which they got in trouble is common in the school; 13-year-olds are going to do what everyone else around them is doing. Is it acceptable behavior? No. They likely knew this beforehand, but every so often EVERYONE does something that they know isn't exactly kosher.

The most appropriate recourse would've been detention and/or suspension for a couple days and a note home to, or conference with, the parents. It's something schools hand out everyday, it's cheap, and it gets the message across.

Forcing these kids' parents to shoulder thousands of dollars in legal fees, and forcing the same amount onto the tax paying public, is NOT efficient or warranted in this case.
 

AnitaPeterson

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Originally posted by: Stumps
soon it will be illegal to have a penis and testicles in the US....glad I don't live there.

Quoted for truth.

Probably the best, most astute observation in the entire thread.
 

oldman420

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Originally posted by: TheNewbie
This country will soon turn into a radical Muslim nation, making all the girls wrap them selfs in sheets, to completely hide the filthy woman body which causes men to sin.

Pathetic.

:beer:
 

SirStev0

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Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: ahurtt
That ten year sentence is just the maximum allowable but I promise you they are NOT going to get that.

Hehehehehe interesting you say that promise while a kid is sitting in Georgia prison for having oral sex when he was 17.

He was released. And slapping asses and oral sex are two very different things.

Due to an appeal of the appeal he has yet to be released... he is still rotting in prison. Both cases are unnecessary knee-jerk reactions because "omg think of the childern"... I openly admit in highschool the football player buttslap accompanied by "good game" remark was commonly shared between males and females.
 

imported_Tango

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Originally posted by: thraashman
Originally posted by: ahurtt
Originally posted by: jjones
Originally posted by: ahurtt
Nice uncalled for personal attack.
You've been personally attacking nearly everyone who disagrees with your view.

As for my opinion on your views, perhaps you're the one that should go live in Afghanistan if you think dealing out such harsh punishment (5 days in jail + fun in court + who knows what after that) is appropriate for these boys. And you seem to think this is all just for show, that the DA and that the court will just play games to send a message. You have no clue what the outcome will be of this overzealous prosecution, so stfu about it.

I have been attacking peoples arguments. Not people directly. The only time I came even close to personally attacking somebody was when I said somebody should be intelligent enough to know the difference between right and wrong. And you have no more clue as to what the ultimate outcome of this prosecution will be than I have. It's just that judging by most peoples responses here, you'd think the boys were sentenced to death for this or something. But trust me, the prosecution is smart enough to realize they'd be virtually publicly castrated for sending a couple thirteen year-olds to jail for 10 years over this. They will agree to a much less severe plea bargain of some kind. They'll probably end up with nothing more than maybe some court mandated counseling, some community service, and supervised probation or something for a few months. That's just how the game is played.

I think you should tell that to Genarlow Wilson I think he might disagree with what you say.

Wow... I didn't know this case...

This country really has a big, big, big, big problem with sexuality.... it's really incredible...
 

rbV5

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Bradley Berry, the McMinnville district attorney, said his office "aggressively" pursues sex crimes that involve children. "These cases are devastating to children," he said. "They are life-altering cases."

They sure as hell are;

I seriously gave the DA the benefit of the doubt in this case...I'd be saying..."No way they proceed with criminal prosecution unless these kids did something very serious. Obviously, they aren't speaking about the case particulars publically yet...you'll see when they start disclosing facts."

Apparently, I was wrong, and it appears that the DA is going way overboard in a case that appears to me to be a school discipline issue after all. Nothing short of outrageous AFAIC, and hopefully it will come back to bite the DA office and those involved hard.

They will agree to a much less severe plea bargain of some kind.

Complete bullshit even if they do. Plea bargains serve to circumvent the judicial system and make the DA, the judge/jury/executioner..wtf kind of justice can that possibly be? Now they get to plea with the same DA's "Pride"...good luck with that. Great harm as already been done, can't get that back. :(
 

Eeezee

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Life altering indeed, 10 years of detention and a lifetime on a sex offenders list is certainly quite life altering.

Smacking a butt isn't a sex crime. The worst it can be considered is harassment. That's insane
 

Mr. Lennon

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Wow....wayy to harsh of a punishment to these kids.

In middle school, me and my buddies would run around slapping girls asses. They never cared and would do it back. The only time I got in trouble for it was when this one girl got jealous, she went and reported me. All I received was a slap on the wrist....not labeled as a sex offender and given a possible 10 years in jail.

That was around 8 years ago, boy times have changed.
 

BrownTown

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Man I smack guys butts all the time, some of the Freshmen might not even be 18, I guess that makes me a h0m0sexual child molester =/. God, I'd probably be facing 50 counts of rape if this counts and I'm a really conservative guy (IE: 22 yr old virgin :().

Seriously theres a difference between something being funny and something being sexual abuse. Maybe if the girls involved were trying to get them to stop and all i could see giving them a slap on the wrist of like a night in jail, but alot of kids consider grabbing asses to be entirely acceptable.
 

DainBramaged

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I cannot imagine being the parents of these kids. I'd be so completely angry that I'd probably do something really stupid.
 

LtPage1

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They should have been suspended and scared by the principal and the cop. Prosecution is reprehensible.
 

Kwaipie

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BREAKING NEWS

In the case involving boys accused of spanking girls, all sex abuse charges have been dropped. However, the sex harassment charges currently remain.

It's about time, their intent wasn't sexual abuse. if that were the case, all males would be registered sex offenders.
 

theeedude

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Your honor, I had a duty to smack that booty ;)

Honestly, dropping those charges is not enough. Disciplinary action needs to be brought against the prosecutor for filing them in the first place.