Im sure South Park is responsible, but the whole idea is stupid. Nagger is an acceptable word to say. It measn 'someone who nags'. PC gone wild is what this is.
Which is exactly the way a teen video game player used the word. One time out of 500,000,000. On Saturn. In an alternate universe.
Apparently you haven't had the pleasure of watching, say, in an MMO hundreds of times that a kid repeats calling someone they are arguing with 'a i love you', and when told not to, argues 'they did nothing wrong, that's a cigarette in England', thinking they cleverly have avoided the social stigma against using a word of bigotry.
Sorry, I think that if 'nagger' - a word I've pretty much never heard - is 'allowed' as a regularly used word, that it will pretty much immediately become the 'frack' of the N word.
I've already seen plenty of people using 'N**ga' saying 'oh that's a different form and acceptable, meaning something different'. No, it's not.
As I just explained in another thread, the problem is the underlying desire to get to say something demeaning - looking for 'loopholes' to get away with it. This is one.
JulesMaximus
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Freedom of speech doesn't extend to privately owned game servers or even forums such as this. The owners of those servers can exercise whatever filtering they choose.
I don't know about you but racial slurs are not a part of my vocabulary. If they are, I hope it earns you a beat down someday when you spew off some hate filled tirade in front of the wrong people.
Oh, and I really don't give a fuck if you swear.
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Capt Caveman
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The interesting thing about online gaming are the different types of folks that play. I know there are plenty of Christian Gaming Clans that will ban you for the littlest incorrect chat behavior. "OMG!!!" -> Ban "Shit" -> Ban
But the vast majority of these servers, tell you the rules as you're joining it. Our servers say that there is zero tolerance for racism.
JulesMaximus
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:thumbsup: As it should be. You get young kids playing on those servers and they don't need to be learning that it is somehow acceptable to use those terms anywhere in society. If you want to talk like an ignorant little hate filled fuck (not referring to you Capt) then go join the KKK.
Oh please. Everyone knows that nagger is a play on the word ni***r. Anyone trying to play completely ignorant of this is a joke. Depending on the circumstances surrounding the use of this word could and has been implied to mean the n-bomb.
sdifox
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err, no. I have no idea of the context in which the op used the word nagger. But you cannot assume everyone using the word nagger just means the one with the i.
Context is what determines meaning and intent.
moshquerade
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in some cases, absolutely, but it's not 100% being that the word means something totally different than anything even remotely racist.
the term has probably been used many times to describe someone's mother in law. :\
Capt Caveman
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Not too many people describing their MIL while gaming online. Lots and lots of people using racist language though.
gaidensensei
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I'd say the word nagger is used so infrequently in my case it's about on the same level as using nigging.
Nigging
1) Barely scraping by. Scrounging for money, food, ect.
2) Stealing money around the house so that you can afford to buy more weed.
"Man, I'm broke"
"It's cool man, I'll do some nigging, I should get like $20 or so.."
Nigging
1) Barely scraping by. Scrounging for money, food, ect.
2) Stealing money around the house so that you can afford to buy more weed.
"Man, I'm broke"
"It's cool man, I'll do some nigging, I should get like $20 or so.."
moshquerade
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ffs, i'm going insane here.
again, i am not defending the OP, i am defending the word.
Did you not read the part of my post where I said
There are tons of words that do not have negative meaning in actuality, but when used in a specific way can be. Like bitch. Or walk up to some big fat woman and call her a heifer. Then come back and report the results.
Capt Caveman
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ffs, i'm going insane here.
again, i am not defending the OP, i am defending the word.
And based on the environment that the OP used it in, I'm trying to tell you that no one uses that word. And if I saw it while admin'ing, I probably would have banned him too.
When you see people trying to circumvent a language filter by placing a space between letters, replacing the 'e' with an 'a', etc... It's more than likely he's doing that than trying to describe somebody nagging him.
It's not, the server master banned you for being a pain in the ass twit! Has nothing to due with racism.
moshquerade
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"When you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite." -Winston Churchill
squirrel dog
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This is not a case of "nagger" representing some imperceivable unknown property. "Nagger" specifically refers to someone who "nags" and can be applied only to things that could be perceived as annoying, a constant nuisance, or, specific to a person, someone who constantly complains about an issue or issues.
The only way I would see nagger being used as a bypass for a word filter is if the person wasn't complaining/being annoying, and someone just randomly said "man you are such a nagger," or in a situation where people are throwing out a bunch of words whose meanings don't belong in an obvious attempt to bypass a filter. Sure, it could be applied to blacks only if someone thought that all black people annoyed them, but, then again, it could also be applied to any race, religion, or object because its meaning is not restricted to a specific race, religion, or object; it's meaning is based off a perception.
For example, in every thread you post you attempt to make everything a racial issue and always adhere to the stance that everything is racially motivated against blacks for idiotic reasons such as words having similar spellings. To many, you would be considered a nagger for these actions.
As the title suggests, when did "nagger' become a racial epithet or racist in any manner whatsoever?
Backstory:
I was playing BC2 the other day and at the end of a round, some guy was just mouthing off and so I just said, "hah, you nagger" and the next second, I got perma-banned on the server!
The "reason" was 'racist remark'! I was like, "WTF!?"
Anyway, since when did NAGGER become a racist word? Just because it sounds close to the n-word? Seriously? And, that guy was nagging so I called him a nagger.
Naggers piss me off!
I got kicked off a Tribes server back in 2000 because my name was "A damn dirty ape" as it was deemed racist. Apparently the mods never saw Planet of the Apes.
gaidensensei
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Have to consider that nagger is very rarely used in society. Seems nagging or nag are the commonly used terms. Nagger in the other hand, I acknowledge it exists, but to use it you must have came from some English as a second language country. It just doesn't seem likely to be used as a mainstream word to represent feedback as a reply to someone.
Maybe that could be the case if OP didn't grow up in the states.
Maybe that could be the case if OP didn't grow up in the states.
Man all you people do is drone on and bitch about the same thing over and over. Bunch of naggers, all of you
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Your analogy is total fail. This forum shows up on any "public list" of forums, but like that server, is privately owned and controlled. Like them, we have the RIGHT to say what language and/or behavior is allowed, and YOU have ZERO 1st amendment rights to the contrary.
Restaurants are even more casually public, yet they too have the absolute right to toss your ass for any language or behavior they deem inappropriate.
I really thought you understood but were being lazy in tossing around your "My 1st amendment rights!" whine, hurf, burf. But I now see I was giving you too much credit.
sdifox
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Man all you people do is drone on and bitch about the same thing over and over. Bunch of naggers, all of you
[Polite golf clap]
Kirby
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