See How You Stack up to Weight Lifting Standards

[Koing]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: Koing

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Koing
I read only 10% of people can actually BP their own bodyweight for 1rep . A LOT less can do the bench mark of 1.5x bw.

I'd like to see someone strict press bodyweight. That is a huge thing to do and rarely seen in a gym.

The Gold Standards are:

Military Press 1x bw
Bench Press 1.5x bw
Squat 2x bw
Deadlift 2.5x bw

If you can do those 4 in a session most people would say your pretty much a monster.

Koing

I've never done tried press in the same session, but I've exceeded those in one session in bench/squat/deadlift, and I don't consider myself to be a monster.

Really? Pics and videos of the aforemention lifts please!

I reckon no one here can press bodyweight for one rep the military press (strict). Thats probably the toughest one to do out of the lot.

Koing

I think I tore my rotator cuffs just *THINKING* about military pressing my body weight.

They aren't for everyone. I MP 72.5Kg @ 83Kg. That was my best when I tested it last.

I've not done any MP for months. I'm going to get back and hopefully get closer to a bw M P sometime by the end of the year

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
I do not do barbell military press, but I do dumbbell shoulder press with 115 lbers for 3 sets five reps. I weigh 275, so yeah it would be extremely hard for me to do that weight for one rep military pressm but I might be able to.

The bw MP is quite the bad ass feat of strength. Have a go, see what you get. But basically the heavier you are the more f0cked you get

Koing

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: Koing

Originally posted by: Deeko

Originally posted by: Koing
I read only 10% of people can actually BP their own bodyweight for 1rep . A LOT less can do the bench mark of 1.5x bw.

I'd like to see someone strict press bodyweight. That is a huge thing to do and rarely seen in a gym.

The Gold Standards are:

Military Press 1x bw
Bench Press 1.5x bw
Squat 2x bw
Deadlift 2.5x bw

If you can do those 4 in a session most people would say your pretty much a monster.

Koing

I've never done tried press in the same session, but I've exceeded those in one session in bench/squat/deadlift, and I don't consider myself to be a monster.

Really? Pics and videos of the aforemention lifts please!

I reckon no one here can press bodyweight for one rep the military press (strict). Thats probably the toughest one to do out of the lot.

Koing

I do not take video of myself lifting in my college gym, however, I can assure you that the above lifts happened. My fraternity has an annual lifting competition where you max out in bench, squat, and deadlift, and when you add them up and divide by your weight you get your score. I hold the record, and it was during that competition a year ago that I did those lifts. It was 245 bench, 365 squat, 395 deadlift, @ 156 pounds. As far as military press goes - I've never maxed, and I don't do barbell, I do dumbell shoulder press, and I do 60x10, 65x8, 70x6. I'm not sure how it translates to barbell, but if its anything like other press exercises, I'd imagine I could do 155x1. I won't make that claim though, as I've never actually done it. I don't really have many pictures of myself, you'll have to do with this

Like I said, I don't consider myself a monster and obviously at 155 pounds (5'6") I'm not huge either. Just pretty strong for my size.

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: RapidSnail
I've played soccer and ran for six years, so I'm not out of shape; but I do have small legs. And I go all the way down to my heels without bouncing on the squat, which is about 135°.

Again it just takes time. You will have a good basis with the running and Football background.

Your legs may just be weaker then others, but you need to condition them to squat and deadlift. I've seen plenty of runners with moderately weak legs, fast with endurance sure but weak at squats. But then they aren't use to it either. 5months isn't that long of a training time. I bet in the next 12months you put some big numbers

Koing

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: Deeko
I do not take video of myself lifting in my college gym, however, I can assure you that the above lifts happened. My fraternity has an annual lifting competition where you max out in bench, squat, and deadlift, and when you add them up and divide by your weight you get your score. I hold the record, and it was during that competition a year ago that I did those lifts. It was 245 bench, 365 squat, 395 deadlift, @ 156 pounds. As far as military press goes - I've never maxed, and I don't do barbell, I do dumbell shoulder press, and I do 60x10, 65x8, 70x6. I'm not sure how it translates to barbell, but if its anything like other press exercises, I'd imagine I could do 155x1. I won't make that claim though, as I've never actually done it. I don't really have many pictures of myself, you'll have to do with this

Like I said, I don't consider myself a monster and obviously at 155 pounds (5'6") I'm not huge either. Just pretty strong for my size.

5'6" bw 155lbs

BP 245
Squat 365
DL 395lbs

Is A LOT of weight for your bodyweight. Monster lifts! Glad you didn't make the claim to MP bw without having done it. P!sses me off when people do so! If you haven't lifted it you haven't done it! Reps and sets at other levels don't equate to a 1RM unless you have actually done it

I don't think much of Snatching 100Kg but probably 1-2 people on here could do it. I train for it though...

Strong lifts Deeko. I should have them by the time I am 28. Do you still train or not?

I think anyone that could do all 4 of them is a monster. Not many trained athletes would disagree with me on that. Put 2x bw over head? Now thats f0cking hard...

Koing

 

[vi edit]

I hate having long limbs....it makes me leverage impaired

Seriously though, shorter guys (like Deeko's 5'6" build) can just put up monster lifts for their body weight.

A good friend of mine in college was only 5'4" and about 135. He could do sets of 310 on the bench. He was a wrecking ball of muscle.

 

[RapidSnail]

Originally posted by: Koing

Originally posted by: RapidSnail
I've played soccer and ran for six years, so I'm not out of shape; but I do have small legs. And I go all the way down to my heels without bouncing on the squat, which is about 135°.

Again it just takes time. You will have a good basis with the running and Football background.

Your legs may just be weaker then others, but you need to condition them to squat and deadlift. I've seen plenty of runners with moderately weak legs, fast with endurance sure but weak at squats. But then they aren't use to it either. 5months isn't that long of a training time. I bet in the next 12months you put some big numbers

Koing

Oh good, you call it football .

I've always been an endurance guy (slow-twitch) so I've never had big legs. It's just going to take more work than usual, but I won't let that stop me .

 

[RapidSnail]

BTW, does barbell/dumbbell make a difference? I do dumbbell presses (50 lb. each) instead of barbell. And do those charts count for teens as well?

 

[Praxis1452]

teen
Weight: 140+-3/5
I've never maxed out on a single rep. I know I can do 109 atleast. Highest I've gone is 120. I think 140 would be fine if 1 rep so novice.

 

[DainBramaged]

At bodyweight of 210, I'm in between novice and intermediate being able to max at 205 currently.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: RapidSnail
BTW, does barbell/dumbbell make a difference? I do dumbbell presses (50 lb. each) instead of barbell. And do those charts count for teens as well?

Dumbells are measurably harder than barbell since you are balancing them independently of each other. There are a lot guys that can barbell bench 200 but couldn't imagine doing that with dumbells. And it just gets even harder as you go up in weight.

 

[Koing]

Originally posted by: vi_edit
I hate having long limbs....it makes me leverage impaired

Seriously though, shorter guys (like Deeko's 5'6" build) can just put up monster lifts for their body weight.

A good friend of mine in college was only 5'4" and about 135. He could do sets of 310 on the bench. He was a wrecking ball of muscle.

But they still have to work hard. It doesn't just come to them .

DB stuff is harder but the MP is done with a barbell same with the BP. It's just what the 'measured' standards are with. People start at different positions with DB's. People bounce BP also so that doesn't count...

Koing

 

[platinumike]

haha i bet 90% of the people in here are way off from their true maxes. Bench press may be accurate. Form is everything. If your squats arent at LEAST past 90 degress then your squats aint for sh1t.

 

[Pacfanweb]

They should factor age into that chart, too.

 

[BlueWeasel]

Who would have thought so many elites would be posting on a tech forum? The nerds have something to worry about.

 

[Deeko]

Is A LOT of weight for your bodyweight. Monster lifts! Glad you didn't make the claim to MP bw without having done it. P!sses me off when people do so! If you haven't lifted it you haven't done it! Reps and sets at other levels don't equate to a 1RM unless you have actually done it

I don't think much of Snatching 100Kg but probably 1-2 people on here could do it. I train for it though...

Strong lifts Deeko. I should have them by the time I am 28. Do you still train or not?

Thanks. I'm not in the shape I was a year ago, its my senior year so I'm very busy, but I still go once or twice a week to at least keep myself from falling off too much. After I graduate I plan to hit the gym hard.

And vi_edit, yea, I definitely agree. Being short doesn't have many advantages - but lifting is definitely one of them.

 

[RapidSnail]

I just got back from the gym, and I managed to get a 225 lb. x 1 deadlift! I know I could have done at least one or two more, but my grip couldn't keep up .

 

[chr6]

advanced

 

[ohtwell]

Wow! I suck on all those scales.


: ) Amanda

 

[toolboxolio]

Yay, I pwn.

I am 220 and don't workout and I am slightly above intermediate.

This thread has given me confidence and I given that I am about to start a workout regiment, I feel like I can only get better.

Thanks, OP.

 

[Whisper]

According to those charts, my best guesses are as follows (based on a body weight of ~165 lbs., give or take a few depending on the day):

Bench: Elite (~320)
Shoulder: I'd guess elite, as I am able to rep 175 three or so times by my fourth set, although I've never done a one-rep max
Squat: Between intermediate or advanced, although I've never maxed on this exercise, either
Deadlift and Clean: Don't do either

Edit: I should note for the shoulder press, were I to be strict about it, I'm guessing the one-rep max would probably vary between 160 and 175. I've never given it a try, but based on regular reps alone, I know how quickly adding just a few pounds can make it seem unholy.

 

[RapidSnail]

Originally posted by: Koing

Originally posted by: vi_edit
I hate having long limbs....it makes me leverage impaired

Seriously though, shorter guys (like Deeko's 5'6" build) can just put up monster lifts for their body weight.

A good friend of mine in college was only 5'4" and about 135. He could do sets of 310 on the bench. He was a wrecking ball of muscle.

But they still have to work hard. It doesn't just come to them .

DB stuff is harder but the MP is done with a barbell same with the BP. It's just what the 'measured' standards are with. People start at different positions with DB's. People bounce BP also so that doesn't count...

Koing

So my DB press doesn't count?

 

[SVT Cobra]

Originally posted by: Whisper
According to those charts, my best guesses are as follows (based on a body weight of ~165 lbs., give or take a few depending on the day):

Bench: Elite (~320)
Shoulder: I'd guess elite, as I am able to rep 175 three or so times by my fourth set, although I've never done a one-rep max
Squat: Between intermediate or advanced, although I've never maxed on this exercise, either
Deadlift and Clean: Don't do either

Edit: I should note for the shoulder press, were I to be strict about it, I'm guessing the one-rep max would probably vary between 160 and 175. I've never given it a try, but based on regular reps alone, I know how quickly adding just a few pounds can make it seem unholy.

Pics or I raise the BS flag.

 

[krunchykrome]

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra

Originally posted by: Whisper
According to those charts, my best guesses are as follows (based on a body weight of ~165 lbs., give or take a few depending on the day):

Bench: Elite (~320)
Shoulder: I'd guess elite, as I am able to rep 175 three or so times by my fourth set, although I've never done a one-rep max
Squat: Between intermediate or advanced, although I've never maxed on this exercise, either
Deadlift and Clean: Don't do either

Edit: I should note for the shoulder press, were I to be strict about it, I'm guessing the one-rep max would probably vary between 160 and 175. I've never given it a try, but based on regular reps alone, I know how quickly adding just a few pounds can make it seem unholy.

Pics or I raise the BS flag.

:laugh:

 

[Nutdotnet]

Originally posted by: Whisper
According to those charts, my best guesses are as follows (based on a body weight of ~165 lbs., give or take a few depending on the day):

Bench: Elite (~320)
Shoulder: I'd guess elite, as I am able to rep 175 three or so times by my fourth set, although I've never done a one-rep max
Squat: Between intermediate or advanced, although I've never maxed on this exercise, either
Deadlift and Clean: Don't do either

Edit: I should note for the shoulder press, were I to be strict about it, I'm guessing the one-rep max would probably vary between 160 and 175. I've never given it a try, but based on regular reps alone, I know how quickly adding just a few pounds can make it seem unholy.

No deads? Pussy.

 

[Nutdotnet]

Originally posted by: RapidSnail

Originally posted by: Koing

Originally posted by: vi_edit
I hate having long limbs....it makes me leverage impaired

Seriously though, shorter guys (like Deeko's 5'6" build) can just put up monster lifts for their body weight.

A good friend of mine in college was only 5'4" and about 135. He could do sets of 310 on the bench. He was a wrecking ball of muscle.

But they still have to work hard. It doesn't just come to them .

DB stuff is harder but the MP is done with a barbell same with the BP. It's just what the 'measured' standards are with. People start at different positions with DB's. People bounce BP also so that doesn't count...

Koing

So my DB press doesn't count?

I don't think that is what he meant. DB's are considerably more difficult to lift using the same amount of weight with a BB because of independant movement.

Personally, I <3 dumbbells. I do dumbbell for all my bench presses.