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Elfear

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Two day ago, in old arcticle(clean Intel script) there was no Ryzen 3000 CPU models listed.Now in this sloppy fixed Article, hm there is no Ryzen 5 3600 because R5 3600X is much beeter gaming CPU.

Recommendation of the day, read old comments at the end of the article.

https://www.pcgamer.com/best-cpu-for-gaming/
Ya, pretty odd that PC Gamer made almost no mention of AMD's Zen 2 lineup in an article published so recently. :rolleyes:
 

dlerious

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Ya, pretty odd that PC Gamer made almost no mention of AMD's Zen 2 lineup in an article published so recently. :rolleyes:
I saw the 9980XE in the charts with a 1950X when the 2990WX (and 2950X) was released almost 3 months prior to the 9980XE.
 

Abwx

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Huh.

A sign of yield or binning issues?

Die with 6 working cores would be better implemented on MCM in a 3900X surely? Much better markup and demand is obviously there.

Guess that they had to better populate the sub 150$ segment, CBase say that it wil be sold 140€, that should be about 140$ in the US.

Overall that s MT perf and TDP comparable to a R5 2600 but with 15-20% better perfs in games due to better ST IPC, and it will help GF s foundries being busy...
 

DrMrLordX

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It is basically a 3600-binned chiplet with SMT disabled. Interesting. It's priced at the same level as the 9400F, and seems to perform about as well as a . . . 9400F.
 
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AMD cannot meet demand and is now using lowest quality silicon to get as much profit as possible. Smart business decision in the midst of short supply. With TR 3000 and 3950X at the door, I wonder what kind of "news" will intel have to push out to mainstream outlets to at least maintain a mirage of relevance.
 
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Markfw

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The 3600 was already an awesome buy at $200. Now they are going after the only Intel CPU left to have real relevance. The 3700x is still in stock like everywhere.
 

ondma

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The 3600 was already an awesome buy at $200. Now they are going after the only Intel CPU left to have real relevance. The 3700x is still in stock like everywhere.
Really, notebook cpus arent "relevant"? And I would still take my 2 year old 8700k to any cpu AMD makes. Plenty of threads for what I do and 4.9 ghz all core with one click of the mouse.
 

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Really, notebook cpus arent "relevant"? And I would still take my 2 year old 8700k to any cpu AMD makes. Plenty of threads for what I do and 4.9 ghz all core with one click of the mouse.
My 3700X matches my OC 8700K at 1/2 the power usage. 14nm tech is showing its age, especially in power consumption.

It will be a bloodbath in the mobile market once AMD launches some proper Zen 2 mobile chips.
 

Markfw

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Really, notebook cpus arent "relevant"? And I would still take my 2 year old 8700k to any cpu AMD makes. Plenty of threads for what I do and 4.9 ghz all core with one click of the mouse.
I was not talking about mobile, but @IEC has it nailed. You need to keep your Intel comments relevant. And again, its not all about ghz, but some people can;t get that through their heads.
 

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Frankly, if those benchmarks are to be believed, I'm just not that impressed with the 3500x. As compared to the 3400g though, it's quite a bit better.

I feel like it should be considerably faster than the 9400f. It has nearly 4x the L3, similar clocks, supposedly better IPC, and supports faster RAM officially. I wonder if it needs some IF tuning or something?

Either way, if you can find it, for just over $200, you could have a decent starting gaming machine foundation with a decent B450 board.
 

Markfw

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Frankly, if those benchmarks are to be believed, I'm just not that impressed with the 3500x. As compared to the 3400g though, it's quite a bit better.

I feel like it should be considerably faster than the 9400f. It has nearly 4x the L3, similar clocks, supposedly better IPC, and supports faster RAM officially. I wonder if it needs some IF tuning or something?

Either way, if you can find it, for just over $200, you could have a decent starting gaming machine foundation with a decent B450 board.
What ??? If I read this all correctly, the whole purpose of this chip is to be $150 or less.
 

VirtualLarry

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What ??? If I read this all correctly, the whole purpose of this chip is to be $150 or less.
Yeah, it would make no sense to make a CPU that was inferior to the regular R5 3600 CPU, and charge just as much for it. AMD's target market for these lesser CPUs (6C/6T), are most certainly i5-9400F shoppers. I hope AMD kills it in that segment. Should be GREAT for "budget" gaming rigs, @ $150 or less.

Still, if it were me, I would go for the "full" 3600. Those cut-down CPUs are usually not as great a value as they seem, although, if your total CPU budget is ~$150, there you go.

Edit: I see, you meant, decent budget mobo AND a 3500X, for ~$200, the same price as a 3600 alone. Makes sense now.
 
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ondma

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I was not talking about mobile, but @IEC has it nailed. You need to keep your Intel comments relevant. And again, its not all about ghz, but some people can;t get that through their heads.
An overclocked 8700k is at least 10% faster in clockspeed than the best possible clockspeed for ryzen (if it can actually reach the advertised clocks). The only way to make up for that is either more cores or better IPC. My only demanding use is gaming, where more that 6 cores is of little if any benefit. So the difference must be made up by IPC. Are you trying to say Ryzen is 10% faster per clock in gaming?? Would it really hurt you that much to admit there are other options than Ryzen depending on use case??

Granted this is off topic in this thread, so I will not comment further.
 

jpiniero

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Mildly interesting is this Ghost Recon Breakpoint benchmarks from GameGPU. The 3800X is like 12% faster than the 3600X but I suspect it's all core frequency and not number of cores causing the gap.

Note that at stock the 8600K is limited to 4.1 and 8700K 4.3 on all cores.
 

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