Russian Hacking (You People are Idiots)

[alien42]

Yes and I'm sure they chose not to vote forhim as well. The reason the polls were so wrong is people who were polled did not want the pollster to know they weren'tgoing to vote for Clinton or was going to vote for Trump for fear they would be berated and/or insulted.

and now you claim that the people who love to make fun of liberals needing "safe spaces" are the one's who actually need the safe spaces.

once again, your shtick is old.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I am londo's gay daughter ask me anything...

Way to take your posting to a new low.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

and now you claim that the people who love to make fun of liberals needing "safe spaces" are the one's who actually need the safe spaces.

once again, your shtick is old.

How did you get that from my post?

 

[agent00f]

Way to take your posting to a new low.

So you hoping Pence can pay for some of that gay conversion therapy? You know, the money he was proposing to direct away from aids research.

 

[alien42]

How did you get that from my post?

are you joking?

"people who were polled did not want the pollster to know they weren'tgoing to vote for Clinton or was going to vote for Trump for fear they would be berated and/or insulted."

 

[Londo_Jowo]

So you hoping Pence can pay for some of that gay conversion therapy? You know, the money he was proposing to direct away from aids research.

LMAO!!! What a lame troll attempt. Keep on trolling and I'll keeping on laughing at your attempts.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

are you joking?

"people who were polled did not want the pollster to know they weren'tgoing to vote for Clinton or was going to vote for Trump for fear they would be berated and/or insulted."

Some of these people were liberals as well but that's okay you guys have to live with the heartbreak from the polls falsely giving the impression that Clinton had the election in the bag.

 

[agent00f]

LMAO!!! What a lame troll attempt. Keep on trolling and I'll keeping on laughing at your attempts.

Still can't find the courage to say anything negative about tough guys above him in social authority no matter how much they shit on his family. When Bannon starts talking about keeping his wife in her place you know it's time to attack folks like me for daring to point it out. Hard to imagine a person with less backbone.

 

[Jhhnn]

I've been saying for a while that the current state of the D party has more to do with why H lost than anything she personally did. She could have played her hand better, but there is a whole lotta hubris on the part of the Dems.

Still, I think she should have enjoyed her retirement rather than throwing her hat back in the ring. I've never thought she was wicked like some people do, but the fact that she is so easily vilified is a problem, right or wrong, it just is.

Obama really has left the D party in a really bad shape. Again, the hubris of the MSNBC guys and the CNN anchors has really backfired on them.

Hubris? You mean like Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, O'Reilly & "Only I can fix it" Trump arrogance, or something else? Like the proud to be ignorant arrogance of too many Trump followers?

Your assertions & arguments fit right into the mold of post-truth consciousness.

 

[desura]

Hubris? You mean like Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, O'Reilly & "Only I can fix it" Trump arrogance, or something else? Like the proud to be ignorant arrogance of too many Trump followers?

Your assertions & arguments fit right into the mold of post-truth consciousness.

We go round and round here. Hubris was gay marriage and culture issues. But we've already covered that many times.

 

[agent00f]

We go round and round here. Hubris was gay marriage and culture issues. But we've already covered that many times.

What about the protective "self-confidence" of people ranting about libtard cowardliness but can't quite bring themselves to say anything bad about those who shit all over their family or whatever other degenerate activity. Pretty much fits the majority of conservatives here to T.

 

[Jhhnn]

We go round and round here. Hubris was gay marriage and culture issues. But we've already covered that many times.

Yeh, it's tough enough keeping blacks, browns & women in their place w/o having to grant equal rights to gays. I mean, straight white males deserve more respect than those people. It's so arrogant to ask them to think with the head on their shoulders rather than the one on their trousers. No matter how tough the jerb creators make it there must be somebody else to look down upon. It makes everything just feel better.

 

[desura]

Yeh, it's tough enough keeping blacks, browns & women in their place w/o having to grant equal rights to gays. I mean, straight white males deserve more respect than those people. It's so arrogant to ask them to think with the head on their shoulders rather than the one on their trousers. No matter how tough the jerb creators make it there must be somebody else to look down upon. It makes everything just feel better.

We've already had this discussion many times.

 

[Puffnstuff]

I am londo's gay daughter ask me anything...

I'm kind of afraid to...

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I'm kind of afraid to...

Of course you would be, your good book tells you she's a sinner.

 

[Jhhnn]

We've already had this discussion many times.

We sure have, Yet you keep coming back to the empty bullshit about Dems being arrogant which isn't the case at all. Or should we pander to fear & prejudice like it's 1948?

Donald sure did. I don't think we could have outdone him.

 

[theeedude]

Hacking is just the tip of the iceberg, this is an ongoing wide-ranging operation being conducted against America:
https://www.rit.edu/~w-cmmc/literature/Thomas_2004.pdf

One of the prime goals for a commander in warfare is to interfere with the decision-making process of an enemy commander. This goal is often accomplished by the use of disinformation, camouflage, or some other stratagem. For Russia, one of the primary methods is through the use of the theory of reflexive control (RC). This principle can be used against either human-mental or computer-based decision-making processors. The theory is similar to the idea of perception management, except that it attempts to control more than manage a subject. Reflexive control is defined as a means of conveying to a partner or an opponent specially prepared information to incline him to voluntarily make the predetermined decision desired by the initiator of the action. Even though the theory was developed long ago in Russia, it is still undergoing further refinement.

 

[Jaskalas]

Donald sure did. I don't think we could have outdone him.

Exchange that with beaten him. You don't think a positive, honest, and charismatic figure could have won in 2016?
I understand you may not know one, but we would have settled for old and bold. Biden is a least trying to tell you how it is.
Obama could have won a third term, not sure that he would have wanted it. But to stop Trump... he may have.

There are plenty of people not reviled as a hateful, corrupt Wall Street minion from the 90s.
But Dems just had to push the "its my turn now" candidate.

This is not an era for establishment winners. One would have thought Obama taught us that in 2008.
That lesson was not learned and put into practice. Trump is the consequence of a nation whose leaders are tone deaf.

 

[dank69]

Exchange that with beaten him. You don't think a positive, honest, and charismatic figure could have won in 2016?
I understand you may not know one, but we would have settled for old and bold. Biden is a least trying to tell you how it is.
Obama could have won a third term, not sure that he would have wanted it. But to stop Trump... he may have.

There are plenty of people not reviled as a hateful, corrupt Wall Street minion from the 90s.
But Dems just had to push the "its my turn now" candidate.

This is not an era for establishment winners. One would have thought Obama taught us that in 2008.
That lesson was not learned and put into practice. Trump is the consequence of a nation whose leaders are tone deaf.

Except Clinton was never a Wall Street minion and the only evidence ever presented that she was one was "they paid her to give a speech."

 

[Jhhnn]

Exchange that with beaten him. You don't think a positive, honest, and charismatic figure could have won in 2016?
I understand you may not know one, but we would have settled for old and bold. Biden is a least trying to tell you how it is.
Obama could have won a third term, not sure that he would have wanted it. But to stop Trump... he may have.

There are plenty of people not reviled as a hateful, corrupt Wall Street minion from the 90s.
But Dems just had to push the "its my turn now" candidate.

This is not an era for establishment winners. One would have thought Obama taught us that in 2008.
That lesson was not learned and put into practice. Trump is the consequence of a nation whose leaders are tone deaf.

Give Trump his due. He's an astounding con artist. I suppose we could have beaten him with the Dem equivalent of the mythical Rick Parry, the candidate who doesn't exist.

She'd have beaten anybody else they could have fielded, but not this monster.

 

[blankslate]

Just a heads people think you're concern trolling because you were parroting the conservative concern trolls, "both sides equally bad" so bernie people should stay home.

To be clear I didn't think you were, but rather you honestly believed all that.

No. I argued that if you lived in a blue state you could look at a 3rd party candidate
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/the-bern-endoses-hillary.2479966/page-5#post-38355818

depending on where you live there is more than one rational choice... if I was in a swing state I wouldn't be looking at a 3rd party choice. If you think I'm looking at Gary Johnson go jump off of a fucking cliff.

I live in a blue state as such I can withhold my vote from Hillary and still be rational despite your dumb claims

I also stated that if I was in a swing state I'd wouldn't be voting for a 3rd party person.... again if you think I'd ever vote for Trump well damn you've gone insane.

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[trenchfoot]

Except Clinton was never a Wall Street minion and the only evidence ever presented that she was one was "they paid her to give a speech."

Therein lies the circular reasoning being used by Trump's supporters as to why Trump won and why Hillary lost.

 

[desura]

We sure have, Yet you keep coming back to the empty bullshit about Dems being arrogant which isn't the case at all. Or should we pander to fear & prejudice like it's 1948?

Donald sure did. I don't think we could have outdone him.

I just find it amusing that you are so certain. Evangelicals voted Trump at a higher rate than they voted for Romney. Something like 81%. Romney got in the 70's. Given Donald's behavior, he should have gotten a much lower percentage of religiously serious people, like 40%. That likely would have given Clinton the margin of victory.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Of course you would be, your good book tells you she's a sinner.

That book says to love all people as Jesus loved us so those who spew hate in the name of God are just plain wrong (Romans 13). I've had several gay friends, both male and female, and I see them as people and that is all while their sexual preferences never come into the picture just like Matthew 7 tells us to do.

 

[Jhhnn]

Except Clinton was never a Wall Street minion and the only evidence ever presented that she was one was "they paid her to give a speech."

Yeh, but that meme has been repeated so often that people actually believe it.

Sp instead of her attitude about taxes & regulation, clearly expressed for anybody willing to listen, we'll enjoy another round of Job Creator tax cuts, deregulation of the financial sector & trickle down virga. What could go wrong?