Russian Hacking (You People are Idiots)

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agent00f

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He would have gotten more independents in the rust belt states despite the socialism fear mongering attacks that would've come his way....

You're just too much of shill for Hillary to realize it.

"Medicare and Social Security well they're the most socialist federal programs implemented in the past hundred years... do you think they help or harm the American people?"

but hey keep on burying your head in the sand and think that I'm some sort of woman hating misogynist for not being in full-throated support for HIllary

It wasn't the person it was her policies and past votes that turned off a lot of people.


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Yeah I'm sure trumpsters who can't even stand centrist policies would've gone for sanders instead.

On a more personal level, you're basically the perfectly embodiment of conservative "both sides equally bad" agitprop working as designed. You probably believe those #nevertrump were going to make a principle stand like yourself. Good going helping people like that win.
 
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agent00f

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Had Biden been the Democratic candidate, myself and many other moderates/independents would have voted for him and he would have won.

Sure, the guy who would can't find a bad thing to say about people who routinely slags his family is going to find the moral courage to vote against strongman Trump. Hilarious.
 

blankslate

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So Trump was the better candidate? That has to be true if Hillary wasn't good enough.

Or maybe that's not what this election was about at all. Maybe it had little to do with rational thought no matter how hard the Clinton team tried to make it that way.

Your whole line of argument is just rationalization after the fact.

Listen carefully Trump is a terrible choice for the Presidency....
but he knew enough that the anger many ,Americans had about no bankers being prosecuted when President Obama was in office could be manipulated....
Anger over trade deals which both Hillary and President Obama could be manipulated.

Hillary was a better choice imo than Trump based on her not being insane but she couldn't campaign effectively enough (or chose not to if the story about her aides ignoring offers of help from Bernie campaigners in states like Wisconsin) against Trump to beat him in the states she needed to beat him in despite winning the overall popular vote.

I believe just about any other possible Democratic choice for president would have beaten Trump... especially Senator Warren (if she chose to run), and Senator Sanders (who shares many of the same positions as Warren).

So maybe chew on the above for a while before trying to twist my words again....

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It's rather funny since I started posting in these forums I have been left of center sometimes far left of center *especially in that epic thousands of posts thread about the Florida shooting* and now since I'm not toeing the DNC position about Hillary all of a sudden I'm a fucking concern troll.... fvck that shit.... you can't impugn me as a conservative troll acting like a liberal unless you've lost your mind.


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agent00f

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I voted against Trump, too bad you're too busy trolling and race baiting to remember. Poor sad troll

Sure you did. That's why you & peers can't find the courage to hurt the feelings of people who don't think your family are Real enough muricans.
 

Londo_Jowo

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Sure you did. That's why you & peers can't find the courage to hurt the feelings of people who don't think your family are Real enough muricans.
So your answer is for people to be internet tough guys and hurt other people feelings. Are you sure you're highly educated? I think most have seen through your ruse and see you as a poor sad internet troll you are.
 

desura

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If anyone is familiar with Henry Kissinger and Samuel Huntington, they recommended an accommodation with Russia and a wariness of Islam.

Democratic Party is doing the opposite lately.

Because it is ideological, and because of how bureaucratic groupthink works.

Huntington was a conservative Democrat who opposed the Iraq war for sound reasons. Trump is a former Democrat who opposed the Iraq war for similar reasons.
 

dank69

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Had Biden been the Democratic candidate, myself and many other moderates/independents would have voted for him and he would have won.
Yeah I believe you would have voted for "shoot them through the door" Biden. A guy who is probably far more for gun control than Clinton. You are an imbecile. If Biden was the nominee, he would have been the target. If Sanders was the nominee, he would have been the target. Any one of them would have been the worst candidate ever run in the minds of gullible people just like you.
If Clinton was the perfect candidate why did some liberals chose not to vote for her and some actually voted for Trump?
There are plenty of stupid liberals. Plenty of ignorant people that all of a sudden were "progressives" after listening to Sanders for a few minutes. Dumb shits just like you who believe everything he says that you already agree with but when he tells you Clinton is far better than Trump all of a sudden you don't believe what he is saying.
 
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I believe just about any other possible Democratic choice for president would have beaten Trump... especially Senator Warren (if she chose to run), and Senator Sanders (who shares many of the same positions as Warren).

That's as truthy as what the Trumpsters believe only different. You did your share of tearing down the evil Hillary. What did you think would happen? Or were you not thinking?

That's the real story of this election- not thinking it through, not getting past the emotionalism to engage critical thinking processes.
 
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agent00f

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So your answer is for people to be internet tough guys and hurt other people feelings. Are you sure you're highly educated? I think most have seen through your ruse and see you as a poor sad internet troll you are.

Apparently at least some of us find it in ourselves what it takes to be mean to the Bannon/Pence types of world who doesn't think much of your wife & kid.

There are plenty of stupid liberals. Plenty of ignorant people that all of a sudden were "progressives" after listening to Sanders for a few minutes. Dumb shits just like you who believe everything he says that you already agree with but when he tells you Clinton is far better than Trump all of a sudden you don't believe what he is saying.

Let's not pretend they ever had anything good to say about libtards like Sanders except to trick bernie bros.
 

agent00f

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Listen carefully Trump is a terrible choice for the Presidency....
but he knew enough that the anger many ,Americans had about no bankers being prosecuted when President Obama was in office could be manipulated....
Anger over trade deals which both Hillary and President Obama could be manipulated.

Hillary was a better choice imo than Trump based on her not being insane but she couldn't campaign effectively enough (or chose not to if the story about her aides ignoring offers of help from Bernie campaigners in states like Wisconsin) against Trump to beat him in the states she needed to beat him in despite winning the overall popular vote.

I believe just about any other possible Democratic choice for president would have beaten Trump... especially Senator Warren (if she chose to run), and Senator Sanders (who shares many of the same positions as Warren).

So maybe chew on the above for a while before trying to twist my words again....

*e2a*
It's rather funny since I started posting in these forums I have been left of center sometimes far left of center *especially in that epic thousands of posts thread about the Florida shooting* and now since I'm not toeing the DNC position about Hillary all of a sudden I'm a fucking concern troll.... fvck that shit.... you can't impugn me as a conservative troll acting like a liberal unless you've lost your mind.


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Just a heads people think you're concern trolling because you were parroting the conservative concern trolls, "both sides equally bad" so bernie people should stay home.

To be clear I didn't think you were, but rather you honestly believed all that.
 
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desura

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I've been saying for a while that the current state of the D party has more to do with why H lost than anything she personally did. She could have played her hand better, but there is a whole lotta hubris on the part of the Dems.

Still, I think she should have enjoyed her retirement rather than throwing her hat back in the ring. I've never thought she was wicked like some people do, but the fact that she is so easily vilified is a problem, right or wrong, it just is.

Obama really has left the D party in a really bad shape. Again, the hubris of the MSNBC guys and the CNN anchors has really backfired on them.
 

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Now that Russia had successfully affected US election result. And it seems its poised to affect the upcoming French, Italian and German election results as well. Now every world leader who won their election with Russian help will have to fear Moscow. Because they already know that they could be replaced with someone else friendly to Putin if they don't listen to what Moscow has to say.

Slowly but surely, Russian influence will spread throughout the world via election tempering. Sure Democrats lost this time, it's good news for Republicans. But can you imaging, a sleuth of Manchurian puppet candidates that's selected by Moscow controlling the world? What if the next time, there's a Democrat who is Moscow's favorite, perhaps he/she doesn't want war when we should be fighting Moscow and their allies? A dove when need a hawk, a Chamberlain when we need a Churchill? What do you think Putin will do then?

For Trump, yes he's personally benefited from Russian hacking, this time. he couldn't stop praising Putin and putting down his opponents at home. but he needs to remember, his primary opponents or Democrat opponents are his own countryman, they are on his side. Their fate and his fate are inseparably tied. No matter how friendly Putin might seem, he doesn't have US interest at heart and he will do everything possible to undermine US power and influence in the world.
 

agent00f

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So much anger and name calling, enjoy the next 4 years of what you created by berating anyone who didn't support Clinton.

I'm sure you'll be obediently pleased with whatever Bannon/Pence got in store for people you pretend to care about, and will find plenty more courage to disparage those who don't care for it.
 

alien42

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So much anger and name calling, enjoy the next 4 years of what you created by berating anyone who didn't support Clinton.

Trump berated more people than anyone running for President ever has and by a long shot.

your shtick is old.
 

agent00f

Lifer
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Trump berated more people than anyone running for President ever has and by a long shot.

your shtick is old.

He has the christian heart to forgive his Real family, and join in berating them libtards who dare to give a shit about his minority wife/gay kid.
 

Londo_Jowo

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Trump berated more people than anyone running for President ever has and by a long shot.

your shtick is old.
Yes and I'm sure they chose not to vote forhim as well. The reason the polls were so wrong is people who were polled did not want the pollster to know they weren'tgoing to vote for Clinton or was going to vote for Trump for fear they would be berated and/or insulted.
 

agent00f

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It didn't strike anything, it just proved what sad troll you are.

Of course it doesn't bother conservatives at all when it's laid bare their non-existent moral courage against party faithful who shit on their family to get some bigot votes. Gotta pretend to be manly til the pathetic end.