Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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zinfamous

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With the coterie that Putin and Kim brought with them to have their little tea party in Vladivostok, I'm starting to wonder if Kim is actually going to supply fresh labor camp meat for Putin's front line meat wall.

I really don't think he has much to gain in terms of weapons and ammo from a nation that can't launch satellites and is rather inept at the whole missile thing; but Putin really likes bodies to shove into the fire, and I'm very confident that Kim does as well. They have some undisclosed number of emaciated prisoners in their labor camps, and of course very poor and frail citizens that are "willing" to do absolutely anything for their godking Kim, ...so will this be the first time we see DPRNK "troops" shipped off to fight in a foreign war? Err, any way?
 
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Nah... nuclear items would then become too easy to procure for folk with certain 'let the world burn' ideologies. We are at the tail end of the Age of Empire. Hopefully the last convulsion.

Look, as American has proven with guns, everyone should have them, and many of them, and that will in fact make it less likely people get harmed by them!
 
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fskimospy

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With the coterie that Putin and Kim brought with them to have their little tea party in Vladivostok, I'm starting to wonder if Kim is actually going to supply fresh labor camp meat for Putin's front line meat wall.

I really don't think he has much to gain in terms of weapons and ammo from a nation that can't launch satellites and is rather inept at the whole missile thing; but Putin really likes bodies to shove into the fire, and I'm very confident that Kim does as well. They have some undisclosed number of emaciated prisoners in their labor camps, and of course very poor and frail citizens that are "willing" to do absolutely anything for their godking Kim, ...so will this be the first time we see DPRNK "troops" shipped off to fight in a foreign war? Err, any way?
I’m not sure how effective that would be for a number of reasons, first and foremost I think they would see very high desertion/defection rates.
 
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How about some kind of odor warfare? UKR troops cook hot food and direct the smell of it over the lines. Would the other side come running?

What was the thing in WWII when a German General found out the US troops were getting cake shipped from home?
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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How about some kind of odor warfare? UKR troops cook hot food and direct the smell of it over the lines. Would the other side come running?

What was the thing in WWII when a German General found out the US troops were getting cake shipped from home?
Birthday cakes I believe. Was a stark example of the differences in supply line capabilities.
 

zinfamous

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I’m not sure how effective that would be for a number of reasons, first and foremost I think they would see very high desertion/defection rates.

From Rus or NK? I think the current deployed Russian meatshields would be somewhat happy to be replaced by another set of meatshields, if only delaying their inevitable splattering by a couple of weeks.
 

fskimospy

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From Rus or NK? I think the current deployed Russian meatshields would be somewhat happy to be replaced by another set of meatshields, if only delaying their inevitable splattering by a couple of weeks.
I mean if I were starving in a North Korean labor camp and they let me out to travel far away from North Korea I would be looking for ways to escape immediately.
 

zinfamous

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The DPRK army is not starving.

I don't think they send the army. I think they will send prisoners from labor camps for tossing at Ukrainian bullets, like Vlad already does with his own prisoners and soviet-occupied eastern ethnic territories within "Russia."

I'm just saying bodies for bullet soaking are the most valuable thing to him, and both of these small-minded dictators place no value on human life. It would be an easy bargain for the soviets showing DPRNK how to launch satellites that can actually launch. Kim might even demand that Putin promise to strap some DPRNK generals that he doesn't like to the soviet missiles that are launched at Ukraine. For shits.
 
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K1052

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Besides the loss of the ships those two graving docks will be out of commission for a while. It seems the Russians never built one at Novorossiyk.

Heavy maintenance work for the Black Sea Fleet could be a major problem for some time even if the Ukrainians leave them alone (unlikely).
 

Perknose

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I’m not sure how effective that would be for a number of reasons, first and foremost I think they would see very high desertion/defection rates.
I just don't see Kim supplying NK mobiks, but weirder things have come out of the Hermit Kingdom, so, ummm, who knows?
 

HomerJS

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We should be fucking with this guy. A train moving <35 mph is easy to spot. How about blowing up train tracks ahead of his route. Hire a foreign mercenary. Don't try to injure him because that would be a war crime.
 

fskimospy

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We should be fucking with this guy. A train moving <35 mph is easy to spot. How about blowing up train tracks ahead of his route. Hire a foreign mercenary. Don't try to injure him because that would be a war crime.
They would absolutely treat that as a failed assassination attempt. If you’re going to kill the guy just do it - don’t get all of the negatives and none of the positives.
 

sdifox

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Wait, what? Kim rode a train to Russia? I guess he knows Russians like to shoot all flying things.
 

Zor Prime

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They're rather fond of that train. It's said to be "bulletproof." Small arms, I imagine. Possibly deflects arrows, too.