Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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Exterous

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surely the IAEA is doing some number crunching and risk evaluation?
Supposedly it's ok...

"The agency said factors including the volume of cooling water at Chernobyl were “sufficient for effective heat removal without need for electrical supply.”
 

Exterous

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Russia approves the ability to nationalize companies that exit Russia. Interesting decision given that generally hasn't planned out well for countries

Paywall link

"Russia’s government legislative commission approved measures Wednesday that pave the way for the nationalization of property of Western companies that are exiting the country."
 

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Russian soldiers should surrender.

I'm not even joking.

Some already have.

Timing. Asking whether it's a cause worth fighting for, being paid to do or whether you have a choice. And when you consider murder a justifiable pursuit.

Add propaganda to suit.

Id say a fair number of ruskis would prefer not to be in Ukraine. Not to say that's all of them. But some.
 
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sportage

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Well, I don't know....?
Now, McDonalds is pulling out of Russia, and getting the golden arches into Russia was some accomplishment. Then we have the unknowns over gas. And Putin is going crazy nutz. And this war is on tv 24/7. Biden never got his BBB passed. Biden's ratings have hit rock bottom.

Everything is so crazy out there, and none of it makes any sense.
And so......
Maybe it is time to bring back Donald Trump? As bad as that era was, things seemed more stable and people were basically.... a lot more happy. Then, covid came along but before the covid one could argue that Trump was doing pretty good despite his love letters to Korean dictators and his love affair with Vladimir Putin. The democrats were going after Trump from every direction, but still during pre-covid all in all things were much better.

Maybe if Trump were president then instead of war in Ukraine, Ukraine would simply have been handed over to Putin with no bombs, bullets and no shed blood. And as much as we democrats hated Trump, and still do hate Trump, maybe our still hating Trump would be the worst of our problems today instead of worries about gas prices and wars and Biden having failed at most everything he has tried. When a democrat president can't even get his own party to go along, that's pretty much as bad as it gets. And it isn't only "those two senators" that I speak of, it is also the extreme far left who are going off the rails and becoming the thorn in Biden's side. Biden is getting beat up from all sides, and that's not good for such an old frail man.

Welp folks.... we gave it the old college try. We had high hopes. We were elated to have defeated Donald Trump. But lets face it.... things are not going very well without Trump, and the prospects under Biden look bleak indeed. Think about it.... democrats will lose both the house and senate later this year all while still paying through the nose for gasoline. Show me the up side to all of this....
 

Roger Wilco

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Well, I don't know....?
Now, McDonalds is pulling out of Russia, and getting the golden arches into Russia was some accomplishment. Then we have the unknowns over gas. And Putin is going crazy nutz. And this war is on tv 24/7. Biden never got his BBB passed. Biden's ratings have hit rock bottom.

Everything is so crazy out there, and none of it makes any sense.
And so......
Maybe it is time to bring back Donald Trump? As bad as that era was, things seemed more stable and people were basically.... a lot more happy. Then, covid came along but before the covid one could argue that Trump was doing pretty good despite his love letters to Korean dictators and his love affair with Vladimir Putin. The democrats were going after Trump from every direction, but still during pre-covid all in all things were much better.

Maybe if Trump were president then instead of war in Ukraine, Ukraine would simply have been handed over to Putin with no bombs, bullets and no shed blood. And as much as we democrats hated Trump, and still do hate Trump, maybe our still hating Trump would be the worst of our problems today instead of worries about gas prices and wars and Biden having failed at most everything he has tried. When a democrat president can't even get his own party to go along, that's pretty much as bad as it gets. And it isn't only "those two senators" that I speak of, it is also the extreme far left who are going off the rails and becoming the thorn in Biden's side. Biden is getting beat up from all sides, and that's not good for such an old frail man.

Welp folks.... we gave it the old college try. We had high hopes. We were elated to have defeated Donald Trump. But lets face it.... things are not going very well without Trump, and the prospects under Biden look bleak indeed. Think about it.... democrats will lose both the house and senate later this year all while still paying through the nose for gasoline. Show me the up side to all of this....

The end of Russia.
 

uclaLabrat

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Well, I don't know....?
Now, McDonalds is pulling out of Russia, and getting the golden arches into Russia was some accomplishment. Then we have the unknowns over gas. And Putin is going crazy nutz. And this war is on tv 24/7. Biden never got his BBB passed. Biden's ratings have hit rock bottom.

Everything is so crazy out there, and none of it makes any sense.
And so......
Maybe it is time to bring back Donald Trump? As bad as that era was, things seemed more stable and people were basically.... a lot more happy. Then, covid came along but before the covid one could argue that Trump was doing pretty good despite his love letters to Korean dictators and his love affair with Vladimir Putin. The democrats were going after Trump from every direction, but still during pre-covid all in all things were much better.

Maybe if Trump were president then instead of war in Ukraine, Ukraine would simply have been handed over to Putin with no bombs, bullets and no shed blood. And as much as we democrats hated Trump, and still do hate Trump, maybe our still hating Trump would be the worst of our problems today instead of worries about gas prices and wars and Biden having failed at most everything he has tried. When a democrat president can't even get his own party to go along, that's pretty much as bad as it gets. And it isn't only "those two senators" that I speak of, it is also the extreme far left who are going off the rails and becoming the thorn in Biden's side. Biden is getting beat up from all sides, and that's not good for such an old frail man.

Welp folks.... we gave it the old college try. We had high hopes. We were elated to have defeated Donald Trump. But lets face it.... things are not going very well without Trump, and the prospects under Biden look bleak indeed. Think about it.... democrats will lose both the house and senate later this year all while still paying through the nose for gasoline. Show me the up side to all of this....
I mean this with all sincerity, you should pay people to think for you.
 

Exterous

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Winter weather could make things interesting for the Russian soldiers. Strange how no one knew that mud and cold weather was something that might cause invasion difficulties in that part of the world

 
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zinfamous

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Supposedly it's ok...

"The agency said factors including the volume of cooling water at Chernobyl were “sufficient for effective heat removal without need for electrical supply.”

yes, but it's good for Ukraine to play the urgency. Get some other eyes in there quick, scare some 17 year-old Russian soldiers that probably don't want to be there anyway. (Now for fun: Commandos posing as inspectors. Take down the guards, pretend to be them on their analog walkie talkies for the next 6 days, etc. Russia communication and, I imagine, these little forces holding their flags have to be super thin, why not try to take back Chernobyl and pretend that you didn't?)

True Lies and shit. Lol.
 

zinfamous

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Russian soldiers should surrender.

I'm not even joking.

Some already have.

Timing. Asking whether it's a cause worth fighting for, being paid to do or whether you have a choice. And when you consider murder a justifiable pursuit.

Add propaganda to suit.

Id say a fair number of ruskis would prefer not to be in Ukraine. Not to say that's all of them. But some.

I would say this...if that somehow happened, say 50-60% of total invasion force is casualty + surrender by end of next week, that will be the end of Putin, and Russia as it currently stands.

Putin will have lost the military at that point, and what is left of his top generals around him will instantly move to remove him, because they know that who is left of their men are now done fighting for Putin, and that the first person to take Putin out will be the first person they listen to.
 
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zinfamous

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So many Canadian fighters in Ukraine, they have their own battalion:


The Norman Brigade. Haha.

+ earlier report of "a number of" British troops going AWOL, "suspected traveled to Ukraine in past week," .....the world seems to offer a surplus of humans ready and willing to go shoot Russians when given the legal and moral opportunity to do so.
 
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fun little tidbit on russian military failure: they were waiting for the ground to freeze so the tracked armored vehicles could cross easier, but because of climate change the ground never froze and remained muddy bogging down the advance. (time index in link)
 
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Roger Wilco

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Russian soldiers will be forced to take payment in rubles, correct? And I’m sure their contracts are non-negotiable with static payment amounts. At the rate things are going, Russian soldiers are going to get paid almost literally nothing, and that’s assuming they even have a Russia to return to.
 

kage69

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Apparently the Russians have been dropping those goddamn butterfly mines outside Mariupol, the ones that look like toys to children. State run media are starting to talk about the West and Ukrainians equipping the Nazis with chemical weapons. More projection for the audience with no independent media, maybe a sign of what's next. Putin isn't content shelling women's hospitals or mining "evacuation corridors," things are taking an even darker turn now, somehow.

I hope this barbarity can at least make people knock off the NFZ idea for good. Look what this insane fucker is willing to do to other Slavs, you think he won't use nukes on the West if he's convinced NATO just killed some Russians? I understand Zelenskyy's impatience, probably only a fraction of his fury, but I really hope he can come to understand that NATO starting WWIII will not benefit Ukraine in any way.

Keep doing what you're doing Ukraine. Time is on your side, not Russia's. The West has your back to the extent it can.

2 of those guys have been corroborated via multiple sources, hoping the rest will be soon. So far Ukrainian intel on this has been pretty good, but we'll see.
 
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BoomerD

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People are getting their limbs blown off and dying and FOX is dedicating waay too much space to articles about gas prices.

Gas prices are the number one way this fiasco affects Americans. Most of us aren't Ukrainian, have no Ukrainian family members, don't even know any one from the Ukraine...therefore it doesn't have much meaning to us or affect our daily lives.
 
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BoomerD

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I was being a bit cheeky quoting the Simpsons. The idea that this isn't our problem because it's not occurring on our soil is preposterous.

We have sent soldiers to die all over the world, not because our country was under immediate threat, but because of geopolitics.

I'm still of the position that we should continue providing materiel support and not soldiers, because that would escalate things. But if it gets to that point, I have no problems with NATO using force.

I don't want another unilateral boondoggle though. We need our allies, and we need to show that NATO is arguably stronger than ever now (ironically thanks to Putin invading Ukraine in the first place). But, I don't think we're at that point just yet on the military side of things. The economic sanctions have been crippling and will continue to escalate things "naturally" as resources and goods become more scarce.

Wait...is that why Nixon sent me to Vietnam? I thought them that little slanty-eyed pojama people were a direct threat to Truth, Justice, and the American Way!


It's my experience in that fucked up war...and the revelations about it that came out much later that fuels my objections to getting involved in this shit. I might be the only one here who has actually swapped bullets with real Russian (Soviet) troops.
Russia would not hesitate to light the nuclear candle if we get involved in the war and it starts going badly for them.
 
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Fenixgoon

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Gas prices are the number one way this fiasco affects Americans. Most of us aren't Ukrainian, have no Ukrainian family members, don't even know any one from the Ukraine...therefore it doesn't have much meaning to us or affect our daily lives.
If only there were a way to be less sensitive to the price of gasoline....perhaps by owning a fuel efficient vehicle.

But no, Americans expect gasoline to be goddamn free even though its inflation-adjusted price has been dropping for decades (present spike excepted)
 

BoomerD

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Humans are dying and your concern is money? Pathetic.

Please point out where I said that was MY concern...merely pointing out why I suspect Fox is talking about gas prices (and to put the blame for them on Biden)

As for humans dying...meh. Humans die every day...some in much more gruesome ways than others. I'd rather spend the money that will get pissed away on this clusterfuck trying to solve the murder rate in places like Chicago.
 

BoomerD

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If only there were a way to be less sensitive to the price of gasoline....perhaps by owning a fuel efficient vehicle.

But no, Americans expect gasoline to be goddamn free even though its inflation-adjusted price has been dropping for decades (present spike excepted)

Fuck...I'm old. I remember the days before the Arab oil embargo in the 70's when gasoline was 30-35 cents/gallon...
 

Bitek

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So many Canadian fighters in Ukraine, they have their own battalion:


"The Ukrainian embassy is vetting those who have applied. At least some Canadians cleared to go to Ukraine will receive training in Poland..."

Maybe they can pick up the fucking MIGs on their way over...
 

kage69

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not news, just a slight yet sensible chuckle
 
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