Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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fskimospy

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Haha ya, like Russian’s fighting with shovels, the ghost of Kiev, Russian running out of missiles, Ukrainians shooting down fighter jets with shotguns, ruble cope posts every 6 months, Putin body doubles, Ukraine winning in 10 to 1 casualties, North Koreans in Kursk, Russian stealing chips form washing machines, the big ‘counteroffensive’ where they lost more territory, etc…anything else I’m missing? All propaganda that was parroted here for years.

Of course Biden and rest of NATO could have put boots on the ground which would have really helped Ukraine, but they’re all too chickenshit of Russia’s collection of Oreshnik’s.

BTW, NATO still doesn’t have a functioning hypersonic weapon that is useable in combat like Russia.

Maybe one day they’ll catch up.
You know the rest of us can see the actual results on the ground, right?

Why do you beclown yourself like this?
 

Young Grasshopper

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NATO has a functional weapon system with hypersonic capable weapons deployed in Poland and Romania, it is called Ashore AEGIS. Russia was really upset when it was deployed.

FYI - The SM-3 Block IIA missile for Ashore AEGIS is capable of Mach 10+.

I said functional bud. What missiles has this system shot down other than NATO missiles? Oh right none. Just more overpriced vaporware that wont work if a few Russian hypersonics come their way.


The US is also finishing up development of the Dark Eagle which is also a hypersonic weapon. THAAD has been deployed for years which is also hypersonic capable system.

Why don't they just ask the Russians for help?

When the Ukrainians do successfully intercept a Oreshnik

LOL they have rolling blackouts throughout the country, thier economy is entirely funded by the EU/NATO, they've been snatching thier own citizens of off the street to feed the meat griner, but someday they will successfully an Oreshnik.

A bit of a delusional post I would say.
 

Perknose

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At this point, I’m convinced this forum wakes up every morning, checks under in the bed for Putin and his suitcase nukes, [so massive and manly], and then immediately starts typing.
Meanwhile, Putin is probably just sitting there, shirtless on a bear...

That image you're gizzing over makes my eyes hurt.

A short, balding, paunchy-gutted middle-aged Slav with beady eyes flexing on top of a circus animal!

Of course, we've got our own Carney barker clown show as well.

No wonder these two monumental assholes, Trump and Putin, are in "love."
 

Brovane

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I said functional bud. What missiles has this system shot down other than NATO missiles? Oh right none. Just more overpriced vaporware that wont work if a few Russian hypersonics come their way.

AEGIS ABM has been tested against MRBM. The even used it to target a satellite. A Russian hypersonic is well within the intercept envelop of AEGIS ABM. You know that Oreshnik that Russia used against Dnipro last year, well within the ability of the AEGIS ABM to intercept.


Why don't they just ask the Russians for help?

Why would they need to when they already have operational systems?

LOL they have rolling blackouts throughout the country, thier economy is entirely funded by the EU/NATO, they've been snatching thier own citizens of off the street to feed the meat griner, but someday they will successfully an Oreshnik.

A bit of a delusional post I would say.

Isn't it weird then that Russia still hasn't steamrolled through Ukraine yet? Did you ever figure out how many Russians have died in this special operation?
 
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kage69

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~800k orcs killed/wounded, a military and economy gutted like a fish, military exports ruined, space program ruined, oil industry ruined, airline industry ruined, international standing ruined... but hey, at least it got them 18% of Ukraine over 3 years so they could be China's bitch.

Heehee, Russians want everyone to fear Oreshnik they way they fear StormShadow, HIMARS or baba yaga. Quite the tall order when all your missile talent was Ukrainian and your designs are prone to malfunction.

I just want to see a Russian missile launch (attempt) where they move their artisanal piece of shit into position with mules and horses.
 
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Young Grasshopper

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AEGIS ABM has been tested against MRBM. The even used it to target a satellite. A Russian hypersonic is well within the intercept envelop of AEGIS ABM. You know that Oreshnik that Russia used against Dnipro last year, well within the ability of the AEGIS ABM to intercept.


When are they going to be used IN ACTUAL COMBAT bud? That's the question. Then you'll really know if they work or not. Doing a bunch of missile tests against your own targets don't mean shit. We know the Russian stuff works...Funny you mention the it taking out Oreshnik...Putin even gave them 30 minutes notice it would launch. Would seem like a perfect time to use it right?

Why would they need to when they already have operational systems?


To find out if they actually work against adversary munitions? What non-NATO targets have they been tested against? Do you remember Boering touting those GLDBS bombs being sent to Ukraine only to be jammed by Russia a few weeks later? Let me refresh your memory:




Isn't it weird then that Russia still hasn't steamrolled through Ukraine yet? Did you ever figure out how many Russians have died in this special operation?

Not weird at all when they’re backed by 30+ countries and hundreds of billions of dollars.

What’s weird though? Those same 30+ countries getting schooled for 20 years by a bunch of goat herders with nothing but flip-flops, AKs, and a couple of rusty trucks. I guess they really nailed the art of losing wars.
 

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Depending how quickly the UK can start receiving their RCH 155 order (or how much of a gap is tolerable) Ukraine could end up with the entire AS-90 fleet soon.


I recall this post you made awhile ago and just wanted to add to it that Germany has given the RCH 155 to Ukraine (don't know how many) jumping to the head of the line for deploying it ahead of the UK and as the clip mentions, even ahead of deploying it to it's own troops. I hope this is somewhat of a game changer for Ukraine seeing as if Trump is flipping the script and siding with Putin in this war.

 
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trenchfoot

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Timothy Snyder worked up a 2 minute video explaining what needs to happen for a successful peace process in this war. He has 5 points that need to be met or it will not work.


In essence, the Putin-Trump cabal's end game is for Putin to swallow up Ukraine with Trump set to personally cash in on this win for Putin. Trump doesn't want peace for Ukraine so much as he wants pieces of Ukraine. It's always about pleasing himself by gaming the system no matter how many lives it takes to do it, exactly the same as Putin and every other dictator 'til time immemorial.
 

zinfamous

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At this point, I’m convinced this forum wakes up every morning, checks under the bed for Putin and his suitcase nukes, and then immediately starts typing.

And we're convinced that you wake up every morning and stretch out your rear portal for the day-long North Korean cum train that you've been assigned to since October.
 
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RnR_au

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I recall this post you made awhile ago and just wanted to add to it that Germany has given the RCH 155 to Ukraine (don't know how many) jumping to the head of the line for deploying it ahead of the UK and as the clip mentions, even ahead of deploying it to it's own troops. I hope this is somewhat of a game changer for Ukraine seeing as if Trump is flipping the script and siding with Putin in this war.

Oh wow... only two crew! Nice!
 

trenchfoot

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Oh wow... only two crew! Nice!

I really like it that it can shoot (accurately?) while on the move too. Shoot-n-Scoot has been upgraded to Shoot-While-Scoot. I just hope the Russians don't get ahold of one any time soon.
 
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Just watching the news, A speech President Trump is giving, it is also about Greenland.
But it is interesting that according to president Trump, president Zelenskyy of Ukraine is willing to talk about a deal with respect to commodities like for example raw materials , oil and gas.

As a background story when it comes to the relationship between high profile people in the USA and companies in the Ukraine :



As a sidenote :
But the mentioning of Greenland... That reminded me of this subject and a news item from a long time ago : Which country owns the arctic, AKA the northpole ?
Russia ? Denmark ? Greenland ? Canada ? The USA ? Norway ?
At the time, Greenland wanting to become independent country...

See article and small excerpt from text below :
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What was once dismissed as a frozen wasteland is now a lucrative prize: the US Geological Survey estimates there is about 22% of the world’s undiscovered but recoverable oil and natural gas in the Arctic. Global warming could also open up previously inaccessible shipping routes.
A swath of the Arctic including the north pole currently lies beyond every nation’s 200 nautical-mile limit, which, under the UN Convention on the Laws of the Sea, can form a coastal country’s “exclusive economic zone”. So nations are making claims to the UN to extend their territories, although Russia infuriated its rivals in 2007 by placing a rust-proof titanium flag on the ocean floor beneath the Arctic.
Denmark’s bid for 895,000 sq km of the Arctic Ocean sounds particularly audacious given that this is 20 times the size of Denmark (or 43 times the size of Wales – the country, not the ocean-loving mammal) and the country lies on the same latitude as Britain – more than 2,000 miles from the north pole.
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According to Jon Rahbek-Clemmensen, assistant professor at the University of Southern Denmark, the economic dimension of this dispute is overstated because this part of the vast Arctic “probably has no resources whatsoever”. Instead, he says, the Danish move is to shore up its popularity in independence-seeking Greenland, where the claim is “very, very popular”.
“All geological estimates indicate that this particular area has neither oil nor gas – it’s just about lines on a map,” he says. “For the Greenlanders, it’s more about a feeling of nationhood, and being part of the Arctic. It’s the same for Russia – it’s symbolism.”
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For more information :
 
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Brovane

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When are they going to be used IN ACTUAL COMBAT bud? That's the question. Then you'll really know if they work or not. Doing a bunch of missile tests against your own targets don't mean shit. We know the Russian stuff works...Funny you mention the it taking out Oreshnik...Putin even gave them 30 minutes notice it would launch. Would seem like a perfect time to use it right?




To find out if they actually work against adversary munitions? What non-NATO targets have they been tested against? Do you remember Boering touting those GLDBS bombs being sent to Ukraine only to be jammed by Russia a few weeks later? Let me refresh your memory:






Not weird at all when they’re backed by 30+ countries and hundreds of billions of dollars.

What’s weird though? Those same 30+ countries getting schooled for 20 years by a bunch of goat herders with nothing but flip-flops, AKs, and a couple of rusty trucks. I guess they really nailed the art of losing wars.

Hey Bud did you ever figure out how many Russians have died in this Special Operation in Ukraine so far?
 
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A tiny peace of background that is also part of the story behind the war :

During 2022 , President at the time Joe Biden made a lucrative deal for 15 billion cubic meters of gas with the EU.
More and more EU countries were no longer willing to buy Russian gas, high caloric, high quality, (depending on the gasfield) gas.
At least that was released in the press, EU unwilling to buy Russian gas.

But instead, all those EU countries bought USA gas and ME (Middle East, for example Aramco) gas which is mostly shale gas (and Russian natural gas).
Shale gas is extracted through hydraulic fracturing which is very hazardous for the environment because of the used poisonous chemicals.
There is a lot of pollution in the USA and the ME (Middle East) going on.
And that while the EU wants to be green.
  • There is only grey hydrogen in large amounts produced these days, made from natural gas (methane) : The Fischer Tropsch proces.
  • Some blue hydrogen , hydrogen made from natural gas but the CO2 produced during hydrogen production, is scrubbed and not released in the open air.
  • And a tiny bit of green hydrogen, produced with electrolysis of water.

When it comes to the Netherlands, once about 2 decades or so was hoping to become a major gastransit for the EU. This never happened, not on the scale that was hoped by the Dutch government at the time.
Timeline since 2021 :
Minister Jetten who is especially assigned as minister of Energy and Climate... A minister position newly created...
That same minister Jetten is assigned to help transit the Netherlands into a green country, started to buy USA shale gas and Middle Eastern shale gas.
Which is kind of a big frown of the eyebrows for many people cause the Dutch people are forced to spend a lot of money to become "green". This happened at least one time and happened during the year 2022.
Shale gas is extracted through hydraulic fracturing which is very hazardous for the environment because of the used poisonous chemicals.

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(2022) US-EU agreement on 15 billion cubic meters of gas: 'Every little bit helps'
This year, the United States, together with other countries, want to ensure that at least 15 billion cubic meters of liquefied natural gas (LNG) is delivered to the European Union, the White House and the EU have announced.

It is part of a plan to make the European Union less dependent on Russian gas, the allies write.
10 percent
In 2021, the European Union imported a total of 155 billion cubic meters of gas from Russia, according to figures from the International Energy Agency. That is almost 40 percent of the total gas consumption in the EU. Today's deal therefore concerns almost 10 percent of the EU's gas imports from Russia.

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In terms of the environment, there are some reservations to be made about this agreement, says Van Geuns, for example in the area of ??methane leakage. "LNG from the United States is not environmentally friendly. That is why the European Union also wants agreements to be made to reduce leakage, for example. But that does come at the expense of speed."
For Minister Jetten, the trade-off is clear. "I would rather import liquid gas from the United States and a number of Middle Eastern countries than have to import gas from Russia," he says. Shale gas, which comes a lot from the United States, is the least favorite way to produce gas, he says. "But we really have to do this to get through the coming winters."
Still, stopping Russian gas altogether is not an option for Jetten. "It feels best to cancel the Russian contracts immediately. But then you give Gazprom the chance to make even more money by reselling our gas for higher prices."


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kage69

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Macron is going to speak, here we go.

French boots and air power on the way I'm guessing. Brits will follow.

EU has the money and the manpower, and now Traitor Trump has now provided the motivation.
 

K1052

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I think Euro intervention odds are still low but maybe like 30% low now instead of about 0% pre-trump 2.0. Further steps to harm Ukraine and press them into capitulation talks with Moscow could have unpredictable results.
 
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kage69

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Meh, looks like he'll meet with Merz and Starmer in a few days to discuss the nitty gritty. Doesn't sound like they're wearing rose colored glasses over there though.



“In the face of this dangerous world, remaining a spectator would be madness …

“Russia has already made the Ukrainian conflict a global conflict. It has mobilized North Korean soldiers and Iranian equipment on our continent, while helping these countries to arm themselves further,” he said.

“President Putin’s Russia violates our borders to assassinate opponents; manipulates elections in Romania and Moldova; it organizes digital attacks against our hospitals to block their operations,” he continued. “Russia is trying to manipulate our opinions with lies spread on social media, and deep down, it is testing our limits. It does it in the air, at sea, in space and behind our screens. This aggressiveness seems to know no boundaries.”

He noted that Russia is also spending more that 40% of its annual budget on bolstering its military capabilities. “By 2030, it plans to further increase its army, to have 300,000 more soldiers, 3,000 tanks, 300 more fighter jets. Who can believe, in this context, that today’s Russia will stop at Ukraine?,” he said. “Russia has become, as I speak to you, and for years to come, a threat to France and to Europe. I regret this very deeply.”

In the event of a durable and equitable peace deal, Macron said Europe would have a key role to play to ensure Russia does not invade again, suggesting troops on the ground could be an option. He announced that France would host a new meeting of UK, German and other European leaders in the coming days to discuss these responsibilities, with or without the involvement of the U.S.

"The future of Europe cannot be decided in Washington or Moscow,” said Macron. “The innocence, in a way, of the last 30 years, since the fall of the Berlin Wall, is now over.”



Glad to see French EP3s in Romania now too. Keeping the AFU supplied with decisive SIGINT is a big deal.
 

Jaskalas

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US weapons have a crippling dependency on live access to US intel for targeting.
Trump has disabled all HIMARS in Ukraine.
Just as a Ukrainian counter offensive to shore up their positions and defend their land got underway.

You hear this world? Never buy American.

The USA has effectively disconnected HIMARS for Ukraine, halting the exchange of intelligence data


https://x.com/olliecarroll/status/1897340316942000271


https://x.com/EuromaidanPR/status/1897349461510066569

 

brycejones

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US weapons have a crippling dependency on live access to US intel for targeting.
Trump has disabled all HIMARS in Ukraine.
Just as a Ukrainian counter offensive to shore up their positions and defend their land got underway.

You hear this world? Never buy American.

The USA has effectively disconnected HIMARS for Ukraine, halting the exchange of intelligence data


https://x.com/olliecarroll/status/1897340316942000271


https://x.com/EuromaidanPR/status/1897349461510066569

More good news for American arms manufactures.

Trump is truly making America great!
 
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kage69

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Europe has 5 point re arming plan for $843billion on defense, including $158billion in new immediate aid for Ukraine. That's in addition to what countries like Norway are doing on their own too.

Let's go EU! Tell Traitor Trump you'll let him know if you need to ask Leon anything, then just smile and ignore what he says.
 
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Jaskalas

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Let's go EU! Tell Traitor Trump you'll let him know if you need to ask Leon anything, then just smile and ignore what he says.
They need to ask Leon to come to Europe to face charges of election interference.
See what billions do for a guy in prison for being a Nazi and a Russian asset.