Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

[theeedude]

Putin is finished. It's just a question of how much damage he does on the way out. Hopefully his inner circle takes care of him quickly, or maybe he's offered refuge somewhere in Venezuela and security guarantee to flee.
The moron/nutjob really thought he would be welcome in the Ukraine, something that he could have disassociated himself from by watching 5 minutes of Ukrainian YouTube or having one person talk to Ukrainians on the street of any city for 5 minutes. But he's paranoid and doesn't use the Internet, and gets all his information from yes men who tell him everything is great. Now he is seeing real resistance and has to fight a brutal war to occupy the Ukraine, but there is no support for Russia for such a war, or he has to run with a tail between his legs, and then he's finished too. Either way, with the sanctions on Russia, he'll be gotten rid of, he's a big problem for every single Russian now. His whole social contract was I'll keep economy OK, and you let me do what I want. Now it's coming back to bite everyone involved. His best bet is to negotiate an exile now before he does something even more horrific or someone offs him.

 

[theeedude]

Looks like they are almost fully committed now after finally realizing it’s not going great. They’ll try to encircle Kyiv but it’s likely to take them a bit. Ukrainians are surely getting ready, supply lines still open. UK forces making their careless and shambolic advance cost though as we can see.
A massive armor assault will probably be tried once they surround Kyiv but if there are anti-tank missiles and Molotov cocktails galore I really doubt that goes well. Putin’s next impulse likely to shell and MLRS the hell out of the place.

That would be such a huge loss for the whole world if Kiev is destroyed out of Putin's spite. Beautiful city, great people.

 

[RnR_au]

His best bet is to negotiate an exile now before he does something even more horrific or someone offs him.

North Korea seems a suitable place for exile.

 

[sportage]

Its going to be a bloodbath in Ukraine very soon as Putin's troops close in. The fact is.... Vladimir Putin is not messing around. He wants Ukraine and he is determined to get Ukraine dispite what the rest of the world thinks. Putin doesn't care what the rest of the world thinks nor his own Russian people. And Putin knows the pressure on him is going to get much worse after the bloodbath begins, and I fully expect that Volodymyr Zelenskyy will be assassinated by Russian forces.
With Putin knowing well of what is soon to take place in Ukraine, and of the world's outrage that will follow, this is why Putin has put his nuclear forces on high alert.
Once the bloodbath begins the world will be more outraged as never before. There is no cost too high for a mad dictator. We learned that lesson from Donald Trump.

Ps. Hey Sean Hannity you Putin loving commie, stop pretending that you really care. You are making us sick, you asswipe loser. You are fooling no one.

 

[Jaskalas]

Booked your flight yet? Ukraine doesn’t even require papers to sign up for their foreign legion. You seem really determined that American soldiers should be on the ground fighting. Are you willing to go?

Why are you still using a computer? Go on, stop Climate Change today. By yourself. Just pull the plug and keep your electricity off. Just a hypocrite if you don't make the first sacrifice. Don't even think of involving others in a badly needed action that requires a global effort.

Oh, wait... your brain is just !@#$ed and that is not how collective action works. You know, the collective action of entire nations / alliances to solve big problems. Just like Rich people are NOT hypocrites if they still have a dime to their name while pushing for more taxes and better social programs. You and I are individually immaterial, to all these things. It is only together that they can be addressed for a better society, a better world.

Russia starting a genocide in Europe imposes upon us a moral duty. Death to the invader. Just because you cower before the risk we might face together, does NOT shrug off the responsibility we have of stopping this atrocity. Western Civilization has thus far taken slow and steady actions. But if the column 40 miles deep is not stopped, millions will die. We have the power to prevent that. Here and now. Time is limited.

Why do you want Europeans to die to Hitler Putin? We saved them before. Now it must be done again. Not everyone fights or faces the personal consequences of these decisions. But our nation cannot sit back and watch this happen. I readily accept the risks and collective pain we will face. I will not stay silent or back down and let cowardice prevent us from saving these people from a madman with nukes. The situation demands brinkmanship. Only standing up to the bully and punching him in the face can restore the balance of power. His nukes cannot hang over our heads and prevent us from acting on the world stage. We must not retreat from the world and allow innocent people to die when we know we can do something.

Do not hide behind the Republican trope against collective action. Be up front with us and state your opposition fully.

 

[Roger Wilco]

Putin is finished. It's just a question of how much damage he does on the way out. Hopefully his inner circle takes care of him quickly, or maybe he's offered refuge somewhere in Venezuela and security guarantee to flee.
The moron/nutjob really thought he would be welcome in the Ukraine, something that he could have disassociated himself from by watching 5 minutes of Ukrainian YouTube or having one person talk to Ukrainians on the street of any city for 5 minutes. But he's paranoid and doesn't use the Internet, and gets all his information from yes men who tell him everything is great. Now he is seeing real resistance and has to fight a brutal war to occupy the Ukraine, but there is no support for Russia for such a war, or he has to run with a tail between his legs, and then he's finished too. Either way, with the sanctions on Russia, he'll be gotten rid of, he's a big problem for every single Russian now. His whole social contract was I'll keep economy OK, and you let me do what I want. Now it's coming back to bite everyone involved. His best bet is to negotiate an exile now before he does something even more horrific or someone offs him.

I wonder what kind of info Putin’s inner circle have been pumping into his brain for the past 2 years.

If they are truly the only sources of information he trusts, they could completely brainwash him into a different reality where he isn’t just a glorified mob boss.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1498491928471654400

 

[brycejones]

Why are you still using a computer? Go on, stop Climate Change today. By yourself. Just pull the plug and keep your electricity off. Just a hypocrite if you don't make the first sacrifice. Don't even think of involving others in a badly needed action that requires a global effort.

Oh, wait... your brain is just !@#$ed and that is not how collective action works. You know, the collective action of entire nations / alliances to solve big problems. Just like Rich people are NOT hypocrites if they still have a dime to their name while pushing for more taxes and better social programs. You and I are individually immaterial, to all these things. It is only together that they can be addressed for a better society, a better world.

Russia starting a genocide in Europe imposes upon us a moral duty. Death to the invader. Just because you cower before the risk we might face together, does NOT shrug off the responsibility we have of stopping this atrocity. Western Civilization has thus far taken slow and steady actions. But if the column 40 miles deep is not stopped, millions will die. We have the power to prevent that. Here and now. Time is limited.

Why do you want Europeans to die to Hitler Putin? We saved them before. Now it must be done again. Not everyone fights or faces the personal consequences of these decisions. But our nation cannot sit back and watch this happen. I readily accept the risks and collective pain we will face. I will not stay silent or back down and let cowardice prevent us from saving these people from a madman with nukes. The situation demands brinkmanship. Only standing up to the bully and punching him in the face can restore the balance of power. His nukes cannot hang over our heads and prevent us from acting on the world stage. We must not retreat from the world and allow innocent people to die when we know we can do something.

Do not hide behind the Republican trope against collective action. Be up front with us and state your opposition fully.

I already responded to this line of bullshit from you. So you know my position and frankly your post is dishonest and I won’t abide it.
I used to respect you as a poster but the last two years you have reverted to your authoritarian roots and now want to rush headlong into dramatically escalating a regional conflict.

 

[Roger Wilco]

Australia

https://twitter.com/x/status/1498493559095402498

 

[Paratus]

Russia is getting sulky and taking their bat and going home...


Russian Army is still being bad...



"Corruption in Russia. Suhpaykoa expiration date - February 2015" - sounds like the army rations are 7 years past their expiration dates. No wonder Russian soldiers have been seen looting for food.

7 years out of date? Wouldn’t phase steve1989MREinfo that dude has eaten rations from every war since the US Civil War

He just did a Ukraine Ration review and liked them a lot.

 

[KMFJD]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1498442924438298628

always the c&^%

 

[Zorba]

I wonder what kind of info Putin’s inner circle have been pumping into his brain for the past 2 years.

If they are truly the only sources of information he trusts, they could completely brainwash him into a different reality where he isn’t just a glorified mob boss.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1498491928471654400

I think it is really odd that we are broadcasting to the world that we have a spy in his bunker.

 

[kage69]

Didn't that have more to do with the marines re-aligning to being a focused amphibious force? For a while they were becoming a second army with an ambiguous mission.

That did factor into it, yes. Probably the most important factor as Marines have always preferred to be more mobile, and now with China... But they also know future conflicts are going to stress urban zones, and the generals were watching Iraq, Lebanon, then Turkish action in Syria. If the Corps goes into battle it will likely be landings, island hoping and/or urban warfare. I like that they are getting back to their roots.

Modern missiles and drones (either suicide or armed themselves) are just going to be far too numerous and effective for armor columns to stay intact. Remains to be seen if APS solutions can delay or remedy this. Trophy looks interesting, is supposed to be good.

Anyway the logistics of big tanks is a real burden. To go through it only to loose that armor to a handheld missile or an off the shelf drone carrying an IED sounds like the math of defeat. The cost/benefit ratio of armor is slowly changing.

 

[RnR_au]

I wonder what kind of info Putin’s inner circle have been pumping into his brain for the past 2 years.

You may have missed my previous post earlier today on exactly this topic.

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[kage69]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1498442924438298628

always the c&^%

Speaking of crazy assholes who should be put down...

 

[theeedude]

I wonder what kind of info Putin’s inner circle have been pumping into his brain for the past 2 years.

If they are truly the only sources of information he trusts, they could completely brainwash him into a different reality where he isn’t just a glorified mob boss.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1498491928471654400

Looks like he totally trusts his inner circle

 

[BoomerD]

I think it is really odd that we are broadcasting to the world that we have a spy in his bunker.

it's always possible that it's put out to sow suspicion among the inner circle...real spy or not.

 

[zinfamous]

it's always possible that it's put out to sow suspicion among the inner circle...real spy or not.

...that's infinitely less useful than having the spy, but then broadcasting it. So, it's only one play, really, and it could only be a bluff.

Anyway, I get the feeling that we might be about to witness death and madness because this fucker is going to unleash hell on a major city, and the rest of us are pretty much going to sit there and watch it happen and keep promising and telling ourselves "nothing could have been done!"

pretty much losing any kind of trust in that philosophy.

 

[Jaskalas]

I already responded to this line of bullshit from you. So you know my position and frankly your post is dishonest and I won’t abide it.

You are hiding behind the Republican trope of "you need die on that flag" before we are "allowed" to ask our nation to commit. You attack those of us calling for action. Yet your argument belies how collective action works. It requires all of us to fight together. Not individuals alone.

Russian military poised to slaughter well over a million people, and is sitting on a 40 mile stretch of extremely vulnerable highway.

• I say solve the god damn problem with our advanced strike capability.
• You tell me to go running in guns blazing, an ineffectual idea that won't win the war the way our nation can.

We have a moral obligation to end this. You are opposing this idea, deflecting to personal attacks, and refusing to come out and be straight with your opposition. Dishonest defines everything you have done here.

 

[Zorba]

Looks like it is actually happening.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1498517263309225984

 

[UsandThem]

As someone who was born during the Cold War, and then watched as the USSR ended their control of Eastern Europe, I really had hoped that Russia and Europe would be able to peacefully coexist. From being intertwined in business/trade, to an overall reduction in the size of their active militaries that were supposed to be no longer needed.

I was stationed in Europe, and I travelled quite a bit while I was there. I was able to see many of the sites that were left intact to remind everyone of WWII, the following Cold War period, and the absolute evil men are capable of. I had always hoped there would be no future sites like this added.

And then Putin (along with his closest supporters) had to go absolutely bat-shit crazy, and put us right back into that whole Cold War shit-show. From threatening nuclear attacks, to taking European countries by force, to finally not caring how many people are slaughtered all in the name power.

Now we are in an ever escalating situation, none of us fully knowing how far Putin is willing to go. At this point, he's either insane or just doesn't give a fuck anymore of what the end game is. It's honestly the most serious situation I've seen in my lifetime when you think of what could happen (and how quickly this has all happened). He could very well be planning to level Kiev while the world watches and debates how far can a civilized world allow him to go.

One of the last options the west has at this point (non direct military involvement) is to sanction all Russian gas and oil exports, which should collapse the Russia economy...at which point Putin might just say fuck it, and do something beyond stupid (which the world can't afford to happen).

 

[sandorski]

You are hiding behind the Republican trope of "you need die on that flag" before we are "allowed" to ask our nation to commit. You attack those of us calling for action. Yet your argument belies how collective action works. It requires all of us to fight together. Not individuals alone.

Russian military poised to slaughter well over a million people, and is sitting on a 40 mile stretch of extremely vulnerable highway.

• I say solve the god damn problem with our advanced strike capability.
• You tell me to go running in guns blazing, an ineffectual idea that won't win the war the way our nation can.

We have a moral obligation to end this. You are opposing this idea, deflecting to personal attacks, and refusing to come out and be straight with your opposition. Dishonest defines everything you have done here.

It may be tempting, but the fate of the Planet may be the result. The way we all are Openly and Enthusiastically pouring weapons into Ukraine is itself an unprecedented act or at least I recall nothing like it. The better option would be to assassinate Putin.

 

[theeedude]

Looks like it is actually happening.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1498517263309225984

Su25 can do a number on the tank columns.

 

[RnR_au]

Interesting point of view.

Putin’s Aggression Against Ukraine Deals a Blow to China’s Hopes for Taiwan

China’s support for Russia risks working against its desire to bring Taiwan under its control.

www.cfr.org

 

[nickqt]

It may be tempting, but the fate of the Planet may be the result. The way we all are Openly and Enthusiastically pouring weapons into Ukraine is itself an unprecedented act or at least I recall nothing like it. The better option would be to assassinate Putin.

I don't think Putin should be assassinated by outside agents. He should be deposed by any of the relatively sane Russian Generals/Oligarchs. It's much more legitimate if it's done internally and would have less blowback outside of Russia. Preferably Putin would just be locked up, but a bullet would do, as long as it's fired by a Russian.

The current situation has parallels with the Spanish Civil War, in terms of multiple countries and private parties backing different factions within Russia. I don't think a prolonged Russian Civil war would be a good thing, but a short one could allow a few resets within Eastern Europe and even a decrease in right-wing authoritarianism that has been creeping into Eastern Europe.

Part of the reason I hope all of this turns out favorably for Ukraine is that it sets up precedent for the world's reaction if China ever decides to start troop buildups to "take back" Taiwan. Taiwan is to China as Ukraine is to Russia. We need China to realize it ain't fucking worth it, and first we need to show them how Ukraine wasn't worth it to Russia and Putin.

 

[sandorski]

Might be better, but someone needs to do it.