Rush Limbaugh is a Big Mean Idiot

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Banned Member with a new ISP

Originally posted by: HomerJS
What's more misleading MJF or the self proclaimed King of Conservatism who conviently forgets...

3 ex wives
drug addict
going alone on vacation to a place that specializes in underage hookers with his bottle of Viagra with at least one missing. No I have it wrong Viagra does really come in bottles of 29!

You are a moron, Viagra is a prescription drug, it does not come in bottles of anything. The Doctor decides how many you get, if he wants you can get a bottle of 1.

I know this because I worked for Walgreens and would waste time in the pharmacy acting as a Pharm Tech counting pills and filling prescriptions.

But..but..but.. I thought you were a Professor?

 

[heartsurgeon]

What @sshole would accuse someone suffering from a chronic disease who is trying to adjust their medication levels of deliberately skipping them to appear more pitiful?

please refer to Michael J Fox Org Website

the chapter entitled

Senate Appropriations Subcommittee Hearing, Washington, D.C.óSeptember 28, 1999

(about 80% of the way into the excerpt);

"I had made a deliberate choice to appear before the subcommittee without medication"

for those of you adverse to looking up the quote on Michael J Fox's own web site, here is an easy to digest video interview you can watch, where he admits he's already done what Rush claims, AT LEAST once before:

Fox admits it was a "theaterical thing" to do in this video interview:
Fox Video interview

this is a direct response to the original poster's statement. i'm not gonna waste my time going over the lies in MJF's political ad.

 

[heartsurgeon]

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: PrevaricatorJohn
You complain about a "vicious attack" by launching one of your own on Rush?
Why is what Rush said wrong, but what you just said right?

Thanks for a softball question. Rush Limbaugh is, by definition, a vicious attack dog, and everything he says, syllable by syllable, is, by definition, a vicious attack. You don't have to take my word for it. Just listen to him... as long as you can stomach his perversions of reality.

It follows that any rational discussion about the overweight, drug addled hypocrite wouldn't be complimentary. However, unlike anything Rush Limbaugh says, the worst things you could possibly imagine saying about him are probably true.

Do you have PROOF that what we saw in the ad is because he took to much medicine?

From what I have read on here it?s some Doctor who watched the Ad saying that this could be the effect of too much medicine.

Do you have PROOF that you can read? Do you even have PROOF that you're a human being?

Michael J. Fox has Parkinson's, and he's a popular and articulate public figure. That and the fact is that he can keep his civility and sense of humor while discussing it in a public setting make him an ideal candidate to speak on behalf of stem cell research, to support any political candidates who favors it and to campaign against any who work to obstuct it.

I watched my dad go through 17 years of Parkinson's so I know for a fact that you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground about the disease, the meds or their effects. Unless you want to deny the fact that he has the disease, defending such dispicable attacks from turds like Limp Dick Limbaugh makes you as big a turd as he is.

NOTE: Calling him "Limp Dick" is NOT an attack. He has publicly acknowledged he takes Viagra. He used that as part of his excuse for his most recent encounter with drug enforcement officials. Have you had yours, today?

Now it seems to me when Frist 'diagnosed" Shivo you guys all freaked out, just scroll back a few pages in this thread to see that effect. But now because some Doctor on TV says this may be what happened you all parrot it as if it is gospel? Am I misread this thread, or are you all doing exactly what you bitched about Rush doing?

?How can Rush tell if he is off his medicine by watching the ad? = bad
?A doctor and others say this is caused by too much medicine, he can tell because he saw the ad.? = good? Huh?

To start, her name is Terri Schiavo. You may as well learn to spell her name correctly if you're going to abuse her memory in your lame ramblings.

Frist claimed he had diagnosed cognitive state and the extent of Terri Schiavo's physical brain injury from viewing a few minutes of video. He didn't see any neurological reports, he didn't personally examine her, and she was incapable of expressing or communicating anything about her own condition. Frist's "diagnosis" was directly disputed by the doctors in charge of Terri Schiavo's care and treatment and the results of all of the neurological tests that had been perfomed on her.

OTOH, Michael J. Fox is quite knowledgable and articulate about his own condition and the effects of the medications he uses, and his statements are confirmed by as many medical experts on the subject as you can find.

PrevaricatorJohn -- I can only conclude that, like your friend, Rush, you're a mean spirited, know-nothing putz with an agenda so hostile, so vile and so inhumane that it defies description. :thumbsdown: :frown: :thumbsdown:

 

[CaptnKirk]

At least we can temporarily remove HeartlessSturgeon for the list of Usual Suspects, unless he has taken up dual postings to the same thread.

Whoever is is he's being very clever (in his own little mind) to not tip his hand . . . yet.

 

[Pens1566]

Still waiting on evidence of MJF bashing for his Specter ad, or the lies in his McCaskill ad. I know it might take some time to find. We'll wait.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon

What @sshole would accuse someone suffering from a chronic disease who is trying to adjust their medication levels of deliberately skipping them to appear more pitiful?

please refer to Michael J Fox Org Website

the chapter entitled

Senate Appropriations Subcommittee Hearing, Washington, D.C.óSeptember 28, 1999

(about 80% of the way into the excerpt);

"I had made a deliberate choice to appear before the subcommittee without medication"

for those of you adverse to looking up the quote on Michael J Fox's own web site, here is an easy to digest video interview you can watch, where he admits he's already done what Rush claims, AT LEAST once before:

Fox admits it was a "theaterical thing" to do in this video interview:
Fox Video interview

this is a direct response to the original poster's statement. i'm not gonna waste my time going over the lies in MJF's political ad.

Which would result in MJF being stiffer and unable to move as well ... have you not followed this thread and seen the posts explaining how Parkinson's medication works? Of course not, you just jumped right in with your misinformation.

Even if he had done something in the past, that doesn't mean he's done it here, so you have a serious logic problem right there. No surprise either.

You should have stayed in hiding, HS. :thumbsdown:

 

[Pens1566]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon

What @sshole would accuse someone suffering from a chronic disease who is trying to adjust their medication levels of deliberately skipping them to appear more pitiful?

please refer to Michael J Fox Org Website

the chapter entitled

Senate Appropriations Subcommittee Hearing, Washington, D.C.óSeptember 28, 1999

(about 80% of the way into the excerpt);

"I had made a deliberate choice to appear before the subcommittee without medication"

for those of you adverse to looking up the quote on Michael J Fox's own web site, here is an easy to digest video interview you can watch, where he admits he's already done what Rush claims, AT LEAST once before:

Fox admits it was a "theaterical thing" to do in this video interview:
Fox Video interview

this is a direct response to the original poster's statement. i'm not gonna waste my time going over the lies in MJF's political ad.

Going without meds would make him less fidgety. Pretty theatrical to be sitting still. Nice try though. Which of your other accounts are you trying to back up???

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: Pabster
And the Rush attacks begin ... diversion, obfuscation, diversion, obfuscation ...

I expect nothing less when the tools have been pulled out of the drawers.

Cry me a river. Rush (and you, and ProfJohn, and innumerable other conservatives with an axe to grind) have come out with both barrels against a man with a crippling, terminal illness, simply because his sentiments aren't yours. Rush is a complete blustering hypocrite, and is in no position to be casting stones at anyone for what he claims are lapses in integrity.

It's sad how shameless and blackhearted the post-Rush/Rove iteration of the Republican party has become. Karl Rove and his late protege Lee Atwater, in particular, have taken away much of the common decency that used to serve as a backstop in political discourse.

Don, I always enjoy reading your posts. Sadly, they fall on deaf ears. The only thing that will end this aptly termed, iteration of the Republican party, I fear, is time. The time it would take for their kind to eventually die off. Their is no fixing these broken people.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon

:thumbsup: Couldn't stay you away so close to November, no? Welcome back.

edit: though a part of me thinks you never really left

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: Pens1566
Still waiting on evidence of MJF bashing for his Specter ad, or the lies in his McCaskill ad. I know it might take some time to find. We'll wait.

Yep still waiting.

Until then anybody can write Rush and ask him the "lies" MJF has been saying?

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[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: umbrella39

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon

:thumbsup: Couldn't stay you away so close to November, no? Welcome back.

edit: though a part of me thinks you never really left

I'm taking bets on how many days before he has a melt down. I give him 4 or 5 days, tops.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: HomerJS
I'll explain so even you can understand, I mentioned the pill count not to debate the technicalities of perscriptions vs OTC medication. My point was a bottle of Viagra in a country which provides underage hookers I can conclude he was there soliciting 12 year old girls. Given this circumstantial evidence I still would not get on the air and say Limbaugh is screwing underage girls. But with even less evidence he got on the air and said MJF is either "acting" (same as faking) or off his medication (Frist diagnosis).

That is a really weak argument. So everyone who does to the Dominican Republic is doing so because they want to have sex with under aged hookers?
Bill and Hillary went there in 2001, obviously Bill was getting some action huh?
Of course you are not really making the acusation, just bringing it up to make a point... whatever


Look, Rush making fun or question Fox on the drugs, no drugs or acting was a little bit extreme.
However, Rush questioning what Fox said and whether he was telling the truth was not.

The second Fox agreed to film a commercial for a political candidate then he opens himself up to scrutiny just as anyone else does.
Nearly everyone on the right thinks the ad was false and appears to provide the false image that voting for the Democrat will help find a cure for the disease.

On embryonic research, a radio caller made a good point this morning. Let?s say we find a way to cure something with embryonic stem cells, how are we going to get the embryos?
To a large part of American farming embryos would be morally unacceptable. Plus there are dangers involved and the people most likely to become involved in donating are the poor who would do it for the money. Just wonder if this is the road we really want to take?

I am still on the fence on all of this. Show me that embryonic stem cells are useful first, then we?ll talk.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
That is a really weak argument. So everyone who does to the Dominican Republic is doing so because they want to have sex with under aged hookers?
Bill and Hillary went there in 2001, obviously Bill was getting some action huh?Of course you are not really making the acusation, just bringing it up to make a point... whatever

Look, Rush making fun or question Fox on the drugs, no drugs or acting was a little bit extreme.
However, Rush questioning what Fox said and whether he was telling the truth was not.

The second Fox agreed to film a commercial for a political candidate then he opens himself up to scrutiny just as anyone else does.
Nearly everyone on the right thinks the ad was false and appears to provide the false image that voting for the Democrat will help find a cure for the disease.

On embryonic research, a radio caller made a good point this morning. Let?s say we find a way to cure something with embryonic stem cells, how are we going to get the embryos?

To a large part of American farming embryos would be morally unacceptable.

Plus there are dangers involved and the people most likely to become involved in donating are the poor who would do it for the money.

Just wonder if this is the road we really want to take?

I am still on the fence on all of this. Show me that embryonic stem cells are useful first, then we?ll talk.

I have no doubt you are being paid by the right.

Bill was probably getting some extra nookie, good for him. What's the matter jealous?

Awwwwwww the poor might make some money, can't have that happen.

Can't very well show how embryonic stem cells are useful first when you radicals have even the research on them banned.

Save the Cells!!! Save the Cells!!! Save the Cells!!!

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll::roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

 

[heartsurgeon]

apparently nothing has changed....

i guess i have to spell everything out for you Bush haters...


MJF has admitted in his own writing, and ON VIDEO that he willfully manipulates the manifestations of his disease, to use his own words, for "theatrical" reasons.

If he is willing to forgo his medications on one occasion, for theatrical reasons, what makes you believe he would not use an excess of medications for the same purpose?

Ohhhh..I can here the wailing already..heartless surgeon is claiming MJF took extra medications on purpose!! What a heartless surgeon..

Well, in for a penny, in for a pound...if he's admitted withholding medication to make his case, why wouldn't you believe that he would take an excess amount for the same purpose. I have personally seen patients who have taken excess medication on purpose, to get side effects. Twisted yes, but that's the reality of it.

All I can say for sure,is that the DAY AFTER he ran those ads, he appeared on the CBS affiliate in Chicago, walked through a crowded room, shook lots of hands, and didn't look anything he did on those political attack ads. He wasn't writhing around, he didn't show all those involuntary movements.

Its utterly clear, from his own words and actions, that he has manipulated his symptoms to suit a political agenda.

Rush is just calling him out on it (plus the endless prevarications in Fox's attack ad).


select the second video to see Fox in Chicago properly medicated

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
I have no doubt you are being paid by the right.

As usual, Dave, you have failed to provide a cohesive, logical argument ... and have resorted to your usual attacks and insinuations about a poster.

My question is ... who is paying your salary?

 

[cliftonite]

Originally posted by: Pabster



As usual, Dave, you have failed to provide a cohesive, logical argument ... and have resorted to your usual attacks and insinuations about a poster.

Hmm sounds like this poster Pabster that I know.

 

[Vette73]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
apparently nothing has changed....

i guess i have to spell everything out for you Bush haters...


MJF has admitted in his own writing, and ON VIDEO that he willfully manipulates the manifestations of his disease, to use his own words, for "theatrical" reasons.

If he is willing to forgo his medications on one occasion, for theatrical reasons, what makes you believe he would not use an excess of medications for the same purpose?

Ohhhh..I can here the wailing already..heartless surgeon is claiming MJF took extra medications on purpose!! What a heartless surgeon..

Well, in for a penny, in for a pound...if he's admitted withholding medication to make his case, why wouldn't you believe that he would take an excess amount for the same purpose. I have personally seen patients who have taken excess medication on purpose, to get side effects. Twisted yes, but that's the reality of it.

All I can say for sure,is that the DAY AFTER he ran those ads, he appeared on the CBS affiliate in Chicago, walked through a crowded room, shook lots of hands, and didn't look anything he did on those political attack ads. He wasn't writhing around, he didn't show all those involuntary movements.

Its utterly clear, from his own words and actions, that he has manipulated his symptoms to suit a political agenda.

Rush is just calling him out on it (plus the endless prevarications in Fox's attack ad).


select the second video to see Fox in Chicago properly medicated

And if you had read what you linked to...

University of Chicago neurologist Dr. Thomas Kelly says Limbaugh doesn't have his facts straight. Fox's disease has progressed where he no longer only gets tremors, which can be controlled with medication, but has more erratic movements which are caused directly by his medicine.

He went off them to go before congress as they made it worse sometimes. He disease has progressed further now to where he can not do that. In fact without the meds he would probable not be able to talk or move.

I guess you missed that part?

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Marlin1975

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
apparently nothing has changed....

i guess i have to spell everything out for you Bush haters...

And if you had read what you linked to...

University of Chicago neurologist Dr. Thomas Kelly says Limbaugh doesn't have his facts straight. Fox's disease has progressed where he no longer only gets tremors, which can be controlled with medication, but has more erratic movements which are caused directly by his medicine.

He went off them to go before congress as they made it worse sometimes. He disease has progressed further now to where he can not do that. In fact without the meds he would probable not be able to talk or move.

I guess you missed that part?

and what's scary is this guy claims to be a surgeon. <shutters>

 

[Moonbeam]

There is nothing about being a doctor that prevents a person from being a fool.

 

[Bill Brasky]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Aegeon

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
It is really sad that we have to politicize diseases now. Use to be a time when disease, like foreign policy was something that we talked about in a bipartisan fashion, not anymore.

Indeed, but we have some very evil conservatives out there which are restricting medical research to cure diseases purely in order to satisfy there religious theology. In many cases the politicians have no problem with the embryos created in invitro fertilization being simply thrown away, but continue to block them being used for such vital medical research.

Nice, I can tell you are open minded with you "evil conservatives" line. I guess you are completely ignorant of the fact that embryonic research is going on now, and that as of today NOTHING has been cured because of that research?

You are the biggest idiot ever. If scientists were allowed to do the research the want with funding they need it might speed things up a bit. However, people like you prevent that from happening. I wonder how your views would change if you had Parkinson's.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Zaitsev
You are the biggest idiot ever. If scientists were allowed to do the research the want with funding they need it might speed things up a bit. However, people like you prevent that from happening. I wonder how your views would change if you had Parkinson's.

Amazing you have the gall to call someone else an idiot when you clearly misunderstand the state of stem cell research here in the United States.

Research is being done. This nonsense from McOwen and company that Bush has 'banned' research is just that ... nonsense. The debate revolves around embryonic stem cell research, which is really a totally different facet. And also whether federal tax dollars should support that research.

The debate is an honest one with plenty of logic on either side. It's very reminiscent of the debates over other hot-button issues like Gay Marriage and Abortion.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon

What @sshole would accuse someone suffering from a chronic disease who is trying to adjust their medication levels of deliberately skipping them to appear more pitiful?

please refer to Michael J Fox Org Website

the chapter entitled

Senate Appropriations Subcommittee Hearing, Washington, D.C.óSeptember 28, 1999

(about 80% of the way into the excerpt);

"I had made a deliberate choice to appear before the subcommittee without medication"

for those of you adverse to looking up the quote on Michael J Fox's own web site, here is an easy to digest video interview you can watch, where he admits he's already done what Rush claims, AT LEAST once before:

Fox admits it was a "theaterical thing" to do in this video interview:
Fox Video interview

this is a direct response to the original poster's statement. i'm not gonna waste my time going over the lies in MJF's political ad.

For this you come back to these boards, hacksurgeon????

FOR THIS ?????

You are a tiny, tiny man -- a man with no shame and no heart -- and apparently no ability to see yourself as others see you, else you would crawl away for good. :|

 

[Bill Brasky]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Zaitsev
You are the biggest idiot ever. If scientists were allowed to do the research the want with funding they need it might speed things up a bit. However, people like you prevent that from happening. I wonder how your views would change if you had Parkinson's.

Amazing you have the gall to call someone else an idiot when you clearly misunderstand the state of stem cell research here in the United States.

Research is being done. This nonsense from McOwen and company that Bush has 'banned' research is just that ... nonsense. The debate revolves around embryonic stem cell research, which is really a totally different facet. And also whether federal tax dollars should support that research.

The debate is an honest one with plenty of logic on either side. It's very reminiscent of the debates over other hot-button issues like Gay Marriage and Abortion.

Actually, I am intimately familiar with stem cell and embryonic research. I overreacted, but I was calling him an idiot because he implied the research is worthless because it is, "going on now, and that as of today NOTHING has been cured because of that research."

 

[heartsurgeon]