Rush Limbaugh is a Big Mean Idiot

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Moonbeam said it best when he posted Limbaugh sells a disgusting product to digusting people.

You guys are just sad with lines like this.
Rush is the number one talk show in the country, has been for 10 years. Has 26 times the number of listners than Olbermann has viewers.
Yet when Olbermann called ground zero a ?hole in the ground? you guys all flocked to defend him and point out how profound of a statement he was making.

Rush said Fox was either off his Medication or acting.
Turns out what we saw was an adverse effect of the medicine when it first starts to kick in. (he said so on CBS)
What we saw was not what you normally see when Fox is on his medication.
Rush had the right symptoms, but the wrong cause.

BTW: Even Couric pointed out that Rush apologized (or would apologize) if the statement he made was wrong.
Rush talked about the ad for one hour and you guys are focusing in one 3 or 4 lines.
The main point Rush was making is that the ad was just another attempt at victimology by the Democrats. He all but said a vote for McCaskill is a vote to cure me. It is just plain sad.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Banned Member with a new ISP

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Moonbeam said it best when he posted Limbaugh sells a disgusting product to digusting people.

You guys are just sad with lines like this.
Rush is the number one talk show in the country, has been for 10 years. Has 26 times the number of listners than Olbermann has viewers.
Yet when Olbermann called ground zero a ?hole in the ground? you guys all flocked to defend him and point out how profound of a statement he was making.

Rush said Fox was either off his Medication or acting.
Turns out what we saw was an adverse effect of the medicine when it first starts to kick in. (he said so on CBS)
What we saw was not what you normally see when Fox is on his medication.
Rush had the right symptoms, but the wrong cause.

BTW: Even Couric pointed out that Rush apologized (or would apologize) if the statement he made was wrong.
Rush talked about the ad for one hour and you guys are focusing in one 3 or 4 lines.
The main point Rush was making is that the ad was just another attempt at victimology by the Democrats. He all but said a vote for McCaskill is a vote to cure me. It is just plain sad.

Maybe Rush and his disgusting followers should be more careful when they choose their battles. Seems like you guys stepped into a big pile of sh!t with this one.

 

[heartsurgeon]

You also appear to be making COMPLETELY false statements implying that Michael J Fox admitted to deliberately being overmedicated when making the ads.

you don't have any "proof" that he didn't..

as i have stated several times, he has already admitted to manipulating his medications for "theatrical" purposes..I mean, these were his own words!!

will you admit he's manipulated his intake of medications for "Theatrical" purposes?

he's on freakin VIDEO admitting he's done that....

hey, more power to him, if he thinks that "theatrical" presentations about his illness help him push his political agenda...

he just got called on it...

 

[smack Down]

BTW: Even Couric pointed out that Rush apologized (or would apologize) if the statement he made was wrong.

You just said his statment was wrong where is rush apologizing at?

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Maybe Rush and his disgusting followers should be more careful when they choose their battles. Seems like you guys stepped into a big pile of sh!t with this one.

Actually a large part of his listeners think Rush was right in what he said (outside the medicine comments)
Had Rush left out the medicine or acting line then we would not even be talking about this.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Banned Member with a new ISP

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Maybe Rush and his disgusting followers should be more careful when they choose their battles. Seems like you guys stepped into a big pile of sh!t with this one.

Actually a large part of his listeners think Rush was right

You guys always think he's right, so what's new?

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: smack Down

BTW: Even Couric pointed out that Rush apologized (or would apologize) if the statement he made was wrong.

You just said his statment was wrong where is rush apologizing at?

Link
Do you listen to Rush? If not then you would have missed Rush back pedeling after he made this comment.
and from page 2 of this thread straight from the Rush show on the same day this mess started.

Now, people are telling me that they have seen Michael J. Fox in interviews and he does appear the same way in the interviews as he does in this commercial for Claire McCaskill. All right, then I stand corrected. I've seen him on Boston Legal. I've seen him on a number of stand-up appearances. I know he's got it; it's pitiable that he has the disease. It is a debilitating disease, and I understand that fully. Just stick with me on this.

All I'm saying is I've never seen him the way he appears in this commercial for Claire McCaskill. So I will bigly, hugely admit that I was wrong, and I will apologize to Michael J. Fox, if I am wrong in characterizing his behavior on this commercial as an act, especially since people are telling me they have seen him this way on other interviews and in other television appearances.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon

You also appear to be making COMPLETELY false statements implying that Michael J Fox admitted to deliberately being overmedicated when making the ads.

you don't have any "proof" that he didn't..

as i have stated several times, he has already admitted to manipulating his medications for "theatrical" purposes..I mean, these were his own words!!

will you admit he's manipulated his intake of medications for "Theatrical" purposes?

he's on freakin VIDEO admitting he's done that....

hey, more power to him, if he thinks that "theatrical" presentations about his illness help him push his political agenda...

he just got called on it...

The proof that he didn't, is him refuting it. Why is anyone obligated to prove what he DIDN'T do, when Rush (and you and your dittohead cohorts) are the ones making the accusations?

 

[smack Down]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: smack Down

BTW: Even Couric pointed out that Rush apologized (or would apologize) if the statement he made was wrong.

You just said his statment was wrong where is rush apologizing at?

Link
Do you listen to Rush? If not then you would have missed Rush back pedeling after he made this comment.
and from page 2 of this thread straight from the Rush show on the same day this mess started.

Now, people are telling me that they have seen Michael J. Fox in interviews and he does appear the same way in the interviews as he does in this commercial for Claire McCaskill. All right, then I stand corrected. I've seen him on Boston Legal. I've seen him on a number of stand-up appearances. I know he's got it; it's pitiable that he has the disease. It is a debilitating disease, and I understand that fully. Just stick with me on this.

All I'm saying is I've never seen him the way he appears in this commercial for Claire McCaskill. So I will bigly, hugely admit that I was wrong, and I will apologize to Michael J. Fox, if I am wrong in characterizing his behavior on this commercial as an act, especially since people are telling me they have seen him this way on other interviews and in other television appearances.

Right he said he would admit he is wrong if he mischaracterized MJF behavior. Where is he admitting he is wrong.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Moonbeam said it best when he posted Limbaugh sells a disgusting product to digusting people.

You guys are just sad with lines like this.
Rush is the number one talk show in the country, has been for 10 years. Has 26 times the number of listners than Olbermann has viewers.

It just goes to show that there is a large group of people in this country that need someone equally dumb to affirm their own stupidity. Once might say, 26 times more apt to be a short bus rider.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
All I'm saying is I've never seen him the way he appears in this commercial for Claire McCaskill. So I will bigly, hugely admit that I was wrong, and I will apologize to Michael J. Fox, if I am wrong in characterizing his behavior on this commercial as an act, especially since people are telling me they have seen him this way on other interviews and in other television appearances.

Nice try to cover for your boy, Rush, but if that was an apology, like everything else he says and does, it was totally inept. Rush didn't backpedal a bit. Try including the words, "if I am wrong in characterizing his behavior on this commercial as an act" that follow the text you highlighted.

Have you heard him explicitly apologize and admit he was wrong? Do you think that mindless POS has a clue how wrong, let alone how tasteless he is? :thumbsdown: :frown: :thumbsdown:

FYI -- Parkinson's victims don't have a choice about whether they'll show symptoms. Without the meds, their muscles stiffen, leaving them with littlor or no mobility, and their face shows the classic Parkinson's "mask." With thier meds, they show the excessive animated motion exhibited by Fox in his TV interviews, but at least, they can move and speak. Guaging the medication, itself, is difficult, and it doesn't always have exactly the same level of effectiveness so, even when using it, the exact effects of the meds will be hit and miss.

 

[Aegeon]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
you don't have any "proof" that he didn't.

Indeed you're getting called on the fact you're a miserable human being. I do have evidence that Fox didn't deliberately overmedicate from Fox's own statements on the subject. By contrast you're making a baseless nasty accusation against a seriously ill man without any reasonable evidence supporting it. Keep on talking, you're just making a compelling case on why people should vote against Republicans in this current election. So much for the pretense of "compassionate conservatism!"

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

From the stem cell thread

Neurodegenerative disorders aren't really my thing either (I don't like old people). Alzheimer (and other cortical disorders) rob people of their mental ability and then it kills. Parkinson (and other subcortical disorders) rob people of their physical ability and then it might kill them but isn't nearly as lethal as Alzheimer dz. In the grand scheme, AD is painful for your relatives. PD is torture for yourself and your relatives.

From a pharmaceutical standpoint, despite our knowledge of AD pathophysiology our treatments are of questionable benefit. In fact drugs for AD are so bad that prior to 2005 one of the most common classes of drugs prescribed for AD were antipsychotics. That practice began to decline after it became apparent that antipsychotics were dramatically increasing stroke risk. AD can kill you within a decade. A stroke can kill you in an hour. But Big Pharma LOVED the practice b/c it provided mad profits in a growing market. The last nail arrived this week when a decent sized study demonstrated that antipsychotics aren't demonstrably better than placebo.

PD drugs are even more intriguing. Arguably, the pathophysiology of PD is better understood and more circumscribed than AD. Unlike AD, the drugs for PD actually work really well . . . until they stop working. Treated PD also tends to exhibit a rather profound 'on-off' effect . . . something that idiots like Limbaugh would know nothing about. Depending on the drug, side effects range from mild to intolerable. About the only certainty in PD is that the drugs will STOP working, which is a cruel irony considering they make life so much better for people with PD.

 

[UberNeuman]

So, Pabster - why do you hate a man who is trying to help move people to look at this issue, an issue that it may help your mother and aunt, and quite possible yourself down the road?

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: UberNeuman
So, Pabster - why do you hate a man who is trying to help move people to look at this issue, an issue that it may help your mother and aunt, and quite possible yourself down the road?

He may or may not hate him. He is calling Fox a liar because he distrusts his politics, and because Rush told him to. They don't call them "dittoheads" for nothing.

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: UberNeuman
So, Pabster - why do you hate a man who is trying to help move people to look at this issue, an issue that it may help your mother and aunt, and quite possible yourself down the road?

He may or may not hate him. He is calling Fox a liar because he distrusts his politics, and because Rush told him to. They don't call them "dittoheads" for nothing.

I'm not so sure why it took me so long to recall the irony of Limbaugh's criticism. My excuse is that I'm trying to move away from diseases that affect old people.

One of the most potent research tools for PD was the use of a neurotoxin called MPTP.

MPTP was first tested for its possible therapeutic use in 1947, but the primates that were given the drug became rigid and unable to move, eventually dying. The compound was being tested as a possible anti-parkinsonian agent. After 6 humans were given the drug and developed PD symptoms and 2 died, the drug was abandoned.

However, after the production of another compound, MPPP (an illicit narcotic compound), the importance of MPTP to PD was discovered.

The first case of MPTP causing parkinsonism occurred in 1976 when a young college student who manufactured and abused MPPP made a mistake in his synthesis and produced MPTP. Within 3 days he was severely parkinsonian and his family thought he was schizophrenic. Eventually he was placed on and responded to Sinemet. Two years later he committed suicide and the autopsy showed cell destruction in the substantia nigra, and the damage was, in fact, the same as that seen in PD patients.

In 1982 MPPP was again manufactured and sold in the street as synthetic heroin. It was not long before contaminated batches containing MPTP hit the streets, which dealt a devastating blow to the young users. Hospitals began admitting patients as young as 19 with severe end stage parkinsonian symptoms. The source was tracked down to MPTP and its effect was found to be permanent damage to the neurones of the substantia nigra. This left patients with what was clinically idiopathic PD.

 

[HomeAppraiser]

Kinda funny that Rush's call to rally the troups against the Democrats backfired and is used to expose those heartless, dirty trickster rightwingers. Probabally got enough people on the fence mad enough to actually go out and vote.

 

[Balt]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon

You also appear to be making COMPLETELY false statements implying that Michael J Fox admitted to deliberately being overmedicated when making the ads.

you don't have any "proof" that he didn't..

as i have stated several times, he has already admitted to manipulating his medications for "theatrical" purposes..I mean, these were his own words!!

will you admit he's manipulated his intake of medications for "Theatrical" purposes?

he's on freakin VIDEO admitting he's done that....

hey, more power to him, if he thinks that "theatrical" presentations about his illness help him push his political agenda...

he just got called on it...

You don't have any "proof" that you haven't murdered someone in the past 10 years. So let's see you prove here in this thread that you didn't kill someone. :roll:

Also either provide a reputable source for your "theatrical" comment or give it up.

 

[trenchfoot]

Originally posted by: HomeAppraiser
Kinda funny that Rush's call to rally the troups against the Democrats backfired and is used to expose those heartless, dirty trickster rightwingers. Probabally got enough people on the fence mad enough to actually go out and vote.

i tend to agree. however, to his neocon zombie squads, he's dead on the money. it's the kind of news they crave from him. they feed off of each other like that. good for him in ratings, good for them for getting their "rush fix" for the day.

rush and other one-trick entertainers like him fully realize what got them their notoriety and in true drug addict fashion, the more you give, the more your audience demands, and he delivers with the best of them. if one looks at him from an objective point of view, you can see him getting more and more animated and severe in his acting as it's what being demanded of him from his bosses and his audience. where it ends, who knows?

i classify him as just another shock jock who happened upon a line of shtick that got him ratings and he's exploiting it with good effect.

he could be an admitted child molester and the type of audience he attracts wouldn't mind a bit. it wouldn't surprise me at all if howard stern is his idol.

even john stewart's show is a whole lot more factual than rushs' by comparison.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: smack Down

BTW: Even Couric pointed out that Rush apologized (or would apologize) if the statement he made was wrong.

You just said his statment was wrong where is rush apologizing at?

Link
Do you listen to Rush? If not then you would have missed Rush back pedeling after he made this comment.
and from page 2 of this thread straight from the Rush show on the same day this mess started.

Now, people are telling me that they have seen Michael J. Fox in interviews and he does appear the same way in the interviews as he does in this commercial for Claire McCaskill. All right, then I stand corrected. I've seen him on Boston Legal. I've seen him on a number of stand-up appearances. I know he's got it; it's pitiable that he has the disease. It is a debilitating disease, and I understand that fully. Just stick with me on this.

All I'm saying is I've never seen him the way he appears in this commercial for Claire McCaskill. So I will bigly, hugely admit that I was wrong, and I will apologize to Michael J. Fox, if I am wrong in characterizing his behavior on this commercial as an act, especially since people are telling me they have seen him this way on other interviews and in other television appearances.

Then way did he even say it in the first place if he had no proof. He spews his poison that he knows has no substance that can't be proven, then throws in a disclaimer if he's wrong. Why does he do that? Oh yeah, he's a biased, political partisian hack and you can't beilieve a single word that spews from his big, fat, drug addicted piehole. Rush is nothing but a hypocrit.

No wonder all the righties like him, birds of a feather flock together.

 

[zinfamous]

Anyone else relish in the true irony of this thread? The fact that this thread exists (and many other identical ones across the "inter-webs") means that Rush and his cronies win.

I seriously doubt that Limbaugh even believes half of the shite he spews. He's an entertainer; and he knows how to bring attention to himself. That is his purpose.

If people can be convinced to stop paying attention to these assclowns, then they go away. The legitimate media has to get in on the act as well...which would be impossible. It seems that the job of the media is no longer to report news. Ratings are king.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: tweaker2

Originally posted by: HomeAppraiser
Kinda funny that Rush's call to rally the troups against the Democrats backfired and is used to expose those heartless, dirty trickster rightwingers. Probabally got enough people on the fence mad enough to actually go out and vote.

i tend to agree. however, to his neocon zombie squads, he's dead on the money. it's the kind of news they crave from him. they feed off of each other like that. good for him in ratings, good for them for getting their "rush fix" for the day.

rush and other one-trick entertainers like him fully realize what got them their notoriety and in true drug addict fashion, the more you give, the more your audience demands, and he delivers with the best of them. if one looks at him from an objective point of view, you can see him getting more and more animated and severe in his acting as it's what being demanded of him from his bosses and his audience. where it ends, who knows?

i classify him as just another shock jock who happened upon a line of shtick that got him ratings and he's exploiting it with good effect.

he could be an admitted child molester and the type of audience he attracts wouldn't mind a bit. it wouldn't surprise me at all if howard stern is his idol.

even john stewart's show is a whole lot more factual than rushs' by comparison.

well...he was caught with a bottle of viagra and an under-age prosititue in Florida within the last year (after the oxy incident). I guess this doesn't qualify him as a child-molester; as he would be paying for this service...but it's close enough

 

[ProfJohn]

Check out this piece from Canada. Link
Exactly what I have been saying since about page 3 of this thread. If Fox can look "normal" on TV why can't he look "normal" in a TV commercial? Why film the commercial at a time when he movements are at their worse? The ad is very dishonest on so many levels.

As a neurologist with a large number of Parkinson's disease patients, my impression of the video is that Mr. Fox displayed the poorly controlled "choreo-athetotic" movements seen when advanced Parkinson's patients take their medication to turn "on" and emerge from their natural state of rigidity and rest tremor. At some point after taking a pill, a patient's voluntary movements are freed up, without much excess involuntary movement.

The issue, then, is one of timing. Indeed, a few days after his political ad came out, Mr. Fox appeared at a Democratic event in Chicago with his movements under control, a situation he called "ironic." Strangely, however, he seemed unable to appear controlled for a pre-taped TV ad a few days earlier, when the appropriate timing should have been easier, given the possibility of multiple "takes." Lest this all sound too cynical, consider that Mr. Fox admitted in his 2002 autobiography to going off his medication to appear more disabled before a 1999 Senate subcommittee appearance.

Democratic party manipulation appears to go much further. In offering Mr. Fox as a spokesman, they have clearly hoped he would cut a sympathetic figure immune from criticism, and the faux outrage at Mr. Limbaugh's comments seems to confirm this. While Mr. Fox deserves sympathy for this medical plight, he must assume full responsibility for his words and actions when he chooses to enter the political arena. By politicizing a medical issue, he is, in effect, saying that anyone who cares about new treatment hope for Parkinson's disease patients must vote for the the Democratic candidate in Missouri -- not coincidentally, a pivotal state in the upcoming election to control the U.S. Senate.

This is not only unfair, but absurd. Everyone, including Republicans, supports the many new treatments emerging for Parkinson's patients that promise far more immediate application than do stem cells. Republicans also support stem cell research when it comes from ethically sound sources, such as adult tissues and umbilical cord blood. Ironically, these forms of stem cells have had greater success to date than the embryonic-source stem cells lionized in the Michael J. Fox TV ad.

 

[Aisengard]

Oh ProfJohn, after days of us trying our very hardest to educate you, you still don't get it. Political ads which show MJF in a controlled light are by definition manipulative. So really, by your standards, you should be praising Fox for showing everyone his true face and demeanor. You don't want him to act? Fine! Watch the commercial. That's Michael J Fox.

Your god, Rush Limbaugh, his plan has backfired. MJF now has national attention, and outside of loonie-bins like you and Sean Hannity, that attention is positive. In your party's death throes, it continues to shoot itself in the foot again and again. The party's demise should partially be placed on Rove, the truth will out over time, but not even that great political mastermind can control dimwits and retards like Rush Limbaugh from spouting nonsense every time he opens his mouth and pills don't go in.

And what's up with your whiny crybaby signature? Classic chickenhawk, you can dish it out just fine, but when it comes to taking it you cry.

 

[zinfamous]

In ref to your sig, "Prof" Jon.

It seems that your insistence on discussing MJF classifies you as a small-mined individual. I can't see that you are discussing an idea so much as you refer to an individual's choice; whether or not you see it as a politically motivated choice. The choice is about an individual...assuming the motivation behind individual choices is far too subjective to classify such discussion as one about ideas.

In the end, you are discussing a person (the main issue of this thread concerns Rush; and as he is widely accepted (among true conservatives) to have no valid ideas, any discussion relating to him can only amount to discussing him as a person)

In fact, your champion Rush is immune to discussion about motivation. His mind is perpetually influenced by what I like to call the "Rush 8-ball" A clever, and unprecidented mix of oxy, viagra, and underage hookers. How can anyone accurately surmise just what is going on within the grey matter of one under such stimulation?