Ridley Scott's "Prometheus"

[SKORPI0]

Did you see this part?

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Still 100% effective for touch-screen smartphone users.

What part of everything did you not understand?

Well enjoyed the movie as it is. Didn't have any expectations.

Trailers pretty much showed the highlights of the movies,but watching it filled in the story/plot.

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Didn't mind the religious implications of earth being visited various times in the past and different cultures making a record of what they saw. Not sure of what the agenda of the Engineers race was at the get go and what David said to "Engineer" found in long term stasis (>2000 years?) causing him to freak out and kill them all. Probably Davids hate for the way androids/robots are treated like 2nd level creatures/tools by humans. Wyland being brought along for the 2 years 4 months trip to the planet in hopes of being cured/immortalized at his old age was unexpected and a surprise for me. Not sure if he was taking a gamble or already knew of some alien technology to help him. Liked the scene where E.Shaw used the machine to remove the unborn Alien from her womb, a little squeamish but showed possible future medical technology. Charlize Therons character being killed was a big letdown, but her barely naked 3D scene was a little bonus. The ending was expected with only 2 survivors, Elizabeth Shaw and David (part of him).

Overall it opened a possibility of a sequel or two before the "Alien" storyline. It sure explained a lot of things, but also opened more questions to speculate about.

Other forums discussions:

http://www.prometheusforum.net/categories/prometheus
http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/6

 

[Ichinisan]

What part of everything did you not understand?

Just sayin' you cheated.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

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Still 100% effective for touch-screen smartphone users.

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No its not. Touch and highlight one word, drag the book-ends over the rest of the text to reveal. WinMo7 Phone here. Sorry...

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Sorry I think you got a few things confused. The

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WMD is either the black ooze or one of the worm aliens that comes from it.

It is not the planet itself. The planet that the movie takes place on is simply a random place they chose to

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get their WMD ready.

It's like a staging ground. They decided to

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kill us around

or before 2,000 years ago. In other words ~ 0 AD. We know this because the

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dead Space Jockey is carbon dated to that time.

2kyag is ~ 96ad

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"It's just strange that they would lead us to the planet that's nothing more than a WMD staging ground. Why didn't the symbol lead us to the Engineer homeworld?"

The ONLY way this makes sense is if the cave-paintings were there to get us to kill us upon arrival; which would only occur once our shit-species figured travel there out. Otherwise, the planet needed to have been put up to some other sort of use some 30k BCE

 

[Aikouka]

I thought it was good.

Although...

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the direction of the story was too obvious.. especially since it was the exact same damn thing as Alien. Robot is on board, following directives from a higher authority, fucks over crew whenever he deems necessary. Remind you of anything? Except in this one, the robot doesn't stay dead.

Oh well, I still enjoyed it.

 

[Via]

Lots of good points in this thread.

Since a "Lost" writer co-wrote the screenplay we shouldn't really be surprised by the episodic nature of the events. It's like the ball rolling around the corner and suddenly ceasing to exist for the baby that was watching it.

Remember Sawyer at the end of "The Long Con", prancing around with the guns, threatening and taunting all of the other regulars, and proclaiming that "there's a new sheriff in town?" And that little tidbit being forgotten almost as soon as he spoke it?

That being said - I'll give it 3.5/5. It's worth watching despite all of the gaping holes.

What did David say to the engineer?

 

[luv2liv]

i enjoyed it. whether the story makes sense or not, it was pure eye candy especially the map of the galaxy .

i still dont understand why the alien committed suicide in the beginning.

 

[Ichinisan]

i enjoyed it. whether the story makes sense or not, it was pure eye candy especially the map of the galaxy .

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i still dont understand why the alien committed suicide in the beginning.

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I guess it was seeding life on our planet. Strange way to do it, though...

 

[Triumph]

Saw it last night. I would say that it was entertaining, but not particularly good. About halfway through, my main interest was simply enjoying looking at Noomi Rapace. She's gorgeous.

Notes on the movie

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- I think the engineers created planets of intelligent life to serve as hunting grounds for them. They're obviously a hostile/warrior race ala Predator
- I think the black slime factory unleashed something by accident that was already on the planet, and they were overrun by it (obviously)
- The main scientist guy just loses all interest, I didn't understand that
- The abortion scene was laughable. Two people are trying to restrain her for stasis, she barely gets away from them and then nobody chases her for the next 5 minutes while she undergoes extensive surgery on herself, after which she is able to immediately get up and walk around with no real problem besides some cramps. Then when she stumbles into the room with the old man, they act like, "Oh, it's you," as if she didn't just have an alien in her womb or she wasn't covered in blood
- The sign of life that the probe detected every few minutes at the end of the tunnel, could have been the engineer laying in stasis on the other side of the door?

- Charlize Theron has no ass
- Noomi Rapace is hot

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I guess it was seeding life on our planet. Strange way to do it, though...

That is what I figured.

 

[Ichinisan]

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- The sign of life that the probe detected every few minutes at the end of the tunnel, could have been the engineer laying in stasis on the other side of the door?

That thought also occurred to me, but it also seemed to imply that

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it was the proto-face-hugger-worms that dip into the muck and pop-up again. Even before that, we see worms and creepy-crawlies in the cargo chamber before the ooze comes out. Shouldn't the probes detect those life signs? Maybe they're only configured to detect warm-blooded / vertebrate life.

 

[RaistlinZ]

Saw it and loved it. I think Noomi Rapace stole the entire show though. Bitch was awesome.

 

[airdata]

I thought it was good. I saw it in the XD 3D theater. Visually amazing. Thought the story was ok.

It wasn't the most amazing movie I've ever seen, but it was entertaining and I'd watch it again.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Alien and Aliens are tough acts to follow. They're fantastic science fiction stories, they have great atmosphere, pacing, and scores. Both of these movies also have very memorable characters; Sigourney Weaver's Ripley is absolutely one of the most remarkable characters in any type of fiction. Prometheus lacked the atmosphere, I thought the pacing was disjointed, and the score was at best middling. I agree that Fassbender did a great job, but think the other characters were unremarkable and forgettable. Alien and Aliens are both 10s in my opinion - this one is barely a 7. The story of the engineers is very interesting, though, so I'll see the inevitable sequel.

 

[glen]

The move was a 6, but had the potential to be a 10.

 

[Aikouka]

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I guess it was seeding life on our planet. Strange way to do it, though...

Yeah,

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essentially they sacrifice themselves to rebuild their DNA. They show that with how the cells begin undergoing mitosis right before the time jump.

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- I think the engineers created planets of intelligent life to serve as hunting grounds for them. They're obviously a hostile/warrior race ala Predator

Eh, I didn't really get that from the movie.

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- I think the black slime factory unleashed something by accident that was already on the planet, and they were overrun by it (obviously)

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I don't think that's the case. Look at the mural again, and you'll see a creature that looks a lot like the Xenomorph. Although, the Xenomorph would certainly attack them (as shown by Cthulhu's spawn ), which would probably cause them to flee.

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- The main scientist guy just loses all interest, I didn't understand that

I thought this was pretty obvious.

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He wanted to meet them, not just find them. He's pretty sure they exist, but it's mentioned multiple times that they want to know why they created us.

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- The abortion scene was laughable.

I thought they oddest part was the lack of technology. You think they would have a more advanced suture than staples in 80 years.

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- The sign of life that the probe detected every few minutes at the end of the tunnel, could have been the engineer laying in stasis on the other side of the door?

That's what I would say, and it was why

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David was so adamant (well, as adamant as a robot can be) to go down there.

- Charlize Theron has no ass

She makes up for it! Although, it's hard to watch her after seeing her character in Young Adult. Ugh, that was such an awful movie, and she played such an unlikeable character.

Also,

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it was pretty obvious that she had a fairly close relationship with Wayland early on.

 

[Via]

Two other little questions:

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why was the surgical bed in Charlize Theron's private cubucle one designed for a man?

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why did they only manufacture five of those kick ass machines? A personal surgical machine on hand to take care of any emergency that might come up? Every rich fuck in the world would have one of those

 

[HeXen]

is this movie a prequel to Alien?

 

[Aikouka]

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why was the surgical bed in Charlize Theron's private cubucle one designed for a man?

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The room wasn't for her. She was merely using it as a guise. The thing was meant for her father in case he needed it or it could be used to heal him in some manner.

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why did they only manufacture five of those kick ass machines? A personal surgical machine on hand to take care of any emergency that might come up? Every rich fuck in the world would have one of those

Cost?

 

[Baasha]

Saw it in 3D last night.

One of the shittiest movies ever made.

Apart from its puerile premise, the movie typifies the shallowness of western thought; answers to our deepest questions lie outside of us, somewhere "out there" and the perennial quest to "contain and control" the natural order of things.

Inundate trash with "special effects" and sing paeans about it; welcome to Hollywood.

 

[BladeVenom]

The move was a 6, but had the potential to be a 10.

That's about what I thought of the movie. It looked good, and I liked the actors, but the script was horribly flawed.

 

[Printer Bandit]

blame this guy:

damon lindelof interview on the verge, skip to 22:40

http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/21/3033638/on-the-verge-006-damon-lindelof-masi-oka-marco-arment

 

[Number1]

Saw it in 3D last night.

One of the shittiest movies ever made.

Apart from its puerile premise, the movie typifies the shallowness of western thought; answers to our deepest questions lie outside of us, somewhere "out there" and the perennial quest to "contain and control" the natural order of things.

Inundate trash with "special effects" and sing paeans about it; welcome to Hollywood.

I am glad you wasted your money on it. That way we have more chances of getting a sequel.

 

[randomrogue]

Saw it in 3D last night.

One of the shittiest movies ever made.

Apart from its puerile premise, the movie typifies the shallowness of western thought; answers to our deepest questions lie outside of us, somewhere "out there" and the perennial quest to "contain and control" the natural order of things.

Inundate trash with "special effects" and sing paeans about it; welcome to Hollywood.

You should learn to communicate correctly with your target audience. Your vocabulary comes across as pompous and awkward.

 

[Ichinisan]

Saw it in 3D last night.

One of the shittiest movies ever made.

Apart from its puerile premise, the movie typifies the shallowness of western thought; answers to our deepest questions lie outside of us, somewhere "out there" and the perennial quest to "contain and control" the natural order of things.

Inundate trash with "special effects" and sing paeans about it; welcome to Hollywood.

"Western?" "Hollywood?"

I see what you were getting at, but Sir Ridley Scott also made Blade Runner...and I think that's your kind of sci-fi.

Also, the concept of panspermia is perfectly acceptable / appropriate in sci-fi.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Apart from its puerile premise, the movie typifies the shallowness of western thought; answers to our deepest questions lie outside of us, somewhere "out there" and the perennial quest to "contain and control" the natural order of things.

As opposed to the profundity of Eastern thought, wherein answers are inside?

The only thing shallow here is your faux enlightenment.