Ridley Scott's "Prometheus"

[Svnla]

Saw it earlier today. Not bad at all.

Questions: (SPOILERS) - how could it be a preque for a certain movie while it was years later? I thought the oxygen would last for hours (the two guys would stay out overnight) but the main female character ran out so soon (when she had to jump back into the lifepod). And why certain group hate humans so much? And what was the meaning of that "thing" drank the liquid and then disintegrated into the river?

 

[surfsatwerk]

Response (Spoilers): Before he was all like a robot Darth Vader knocked up Luke's mom and that's why he is his father.

 

[arrfep]

I hate the guy on some level for what he did to Lost. I never actually finished the last season since I was so pissed off about it. I was a bit behind so I knew that I'd get to the end and nothing would be resolved so I just stopped watching.

Watch the interview though. It's nice to hear his point of view on both this movie as well as his Lost experience.

So I watched the interview, and...I'm not sure if it makes me dislike him more or less. I still feel like he keeps asserting that he is intentionally ambiguous as justification for gaps in storytelling.

 

[Molondo]

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I can't remember, but wasn't there a jockey sitting on the throne in the ship when it was first visited in Alien, But in Prometheus the only living Space jockey was killed outside of the ship.

EDIT: Just occured to me, one is LV-223(Prometheus) and one is LV-426 (aliens)

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Saw it earlier today. Not bad at all.

Questions: (SPOILERS) - how could it be a preque for a certain movie while it was years later? I thought the oxygen would last for hours (the two guys would stay out overnight) but the main female character ran out so soon (when she had to jump back into the lifepod). And why certain group hate humans so much? And what was the meaning of that "thing" drank the liquid and then disintegrated into the river?

Response (Spoilers): Before he was all like a robot Darth Vader knocked up Luke's mom and that's why he is his father.

WTF world is it where surf sat werk is making fore fucking sense than ANYONE?!

 

[BladeVenom]

 

[Aikouka]

how could it be a preque for a certain movie while it was years later?

At least from what I could tell on the Internet, Alien takes place around 2122. If I remember correctly, this movie takes place about 30 years prior to that.

I thought the oxygen would last for hours (the two guys would stay out overnight) but the main female character ran out so soon (when she had to jump back into the lifepod).

They were still in the subterranean area, which did not require use of the oxygen re-breather.

And why certain group hate humans so much?

No one knows exactly why. Think of it as like the top from Inception.

And what was the meaning of that "thing" drank the liquid and then disintegrated into the river?

I don't know what their specifics are on what exactly it does, but it appears that it essentially breaks down the current life form and reconfigures the DNA to create another creature. Essentially, that "engineer" in the beginning was creating the human race.

EDIT:

Although, I'm beginning to wonder what exactly happened to Fifield. He was sprayed by the blood of the "proto-facehugger", which is normally just acidic (as shown in other Alien movies). In this, it was more or less similar to the black ooze from the vases. Although, it didn't turn him into a Xenomorph or anything like that, but rather into a mindless person filled with hate. It's also possible that his transformation wasn't complete. I assume this is what would have happened to the other guy as well. I guess that could make sense as they could use that aggressive transformation to wipe out humans.

 

[BladeVenom]

They were still in the subterranean area, which did not require use of the oxygen re-breather.

Her suit said she ran out of oxygen when she went to the escape module. I don't think she ever changed her oxygen before she left the module.

It doesn't even matter anyways. The atmosphere was very earth like except it had over 3% CO2 levels. A 3% level of CO2 is tolerable for at least a month. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide#Toxicity

They don't even need oxygen since there is plenty of that in the air. CO2 scrubbers in their suits may have made the atmosphere more pleasant though.

The doctor, or nurse who said 2 minutes without a suit and your dead, didn't know what they were talking about.

 

[BladeVenom]

Another mistake was when asked how long they'd been asleep David said, "2 years, 4 months, 18 days, 36 hours, 15 minutes."

 

[randomrogue]

Another mistake was when asked how long they'd been asleep David said, "2 years, 4 months, 18 days, 36 hours, 15 minutes."

Pretty sure they said they traveled half a billion miles too. Considering that the distance to Alpha Centauri is 26 trillion miles I think they were off by quite a bit.

You have to overlook these things. Most movies have these problems. I was watching Journey 2 and they have coordinates to something by Palau, which is by the Philippines, yet they point to a spot by Cuba on the globe and mention the South Pacific. It was absurd.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Pretty sure they said they traveled half a billion miles too. Considering that the distance to Alpha Centauri is 26 trillion miles I think they were off by quite a bit.

You have to overlook these things. Most movies have these problems. I was watching Journey 2 and they have coordinates to something by Palau, which is by the Philippines, yet they point to a spot by Cuba on the globe and mention the South Pacific. It was absurd.

The Journey 2 mistake would piss me off more since its EARTH.

 

[Aikouka]

They don't even need oxygen since there is plenty of that in the air. CO2 scrubbers in their suits may have made the atmosphere more pleasant though.

That's one thing that I picked up on when they said it.

Weren't their Oxygen and Nitrogen numbers pretty similar to our own?

 

[randomrogue]

Pretty sure they had Argon or CO2 at 3%

 

[thejunglegod]

Ehm one tiny question.

Spoiler

If the black ooze is what destroyed the Engineers, what exactly were they running from in the holographic sequence?

 

[Triumph]

Ehm one tiny question.

Spoiler

If the black ooze is what destroyed the Engineers, what exactly were they running from in the holographic sequence?

I don't think it is, I think

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they were running from Alien that we all know and love. Maybe in a form similar to what grew out of hot dr. Shaw's belly. When they found the pile of Engineers, they all had holes in their heads like something exploded from inside.

 

[thejunglegod]

I don't think it is, I think they were running from Alien that we all know and love. Maybe in a form similar to what grew out of hot dr. Shaw's belly. When they found the pile of Engineers, they all had holes in their heads like something exploded from inside.

That would not make any sense, as the "Alien" you mentioned first originated in the end of the movie, right?

 

[JimKiler]

Did anyone else notice that Weyland's hands and head were old but he had the feet of the 44 year old actor playing him?

 

[glen]

That would not make any sense, as the "Alien" you mentioned first originated in the end of the movie, right?

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I alos wondered that. However, it sort of looks like there is a picture of an "Alien" in the mound on the roof, so I don't think we are supposed to believe that this movie caused the creation of them. I could be worng. Anyone else care to weigh in?

 

[bignateyk]

This movie was confusing as hell. What was the deal with the engineer at the beginning of the movie? Why did the robot

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kill that guy and try to kill the woman?

For the lulz? I hope the make a sequel to fill in all the holes and explain what the engineers were doing and what happened to them on that planet.

 

[JimKiler]

This movie was confusing as hell. What was the deal with the engineer at the beginning of the movie? Why did the robot

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kill that guy and try to kill the woman?

For the lulz? I hope the make a sequel to fill in all the holes and explain what the engineers were doing and what happened to them on that planet.

The engineer at the beginning was added his DNA to earth to "create" mankind. I did not get it at first either but he sent his ship off the planet and we see the DNA connecting with other things in the water.

I am not sure why David gave that DNA to Charlie, was he a bored robot since he seemed to exhibit traits of self interest or did Weyland put him up to it? Either way it seems we missing part of the story or it was contrived for the chaos that ensued trying to kill Charlie and the c section Dr. Shaw needed.

Of my friends i enjoyed Prometheus even with its faults but I do not want a sequel.

 

[Triumph]

That would not make any sense, as the "Alien" you mentioned first originated in the end of the movie, right?

Yes it would, there were aliens in the murals in the cave, and the alien was created out of the Engineer. a similar alien could have been created out of Engineers way back when.

 

[ImpulsE69]

That would not make any sense, as the "Alien" you mentioned first originated in the end of the movie, right?

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Stated before in this thread, but the mural on the wall very clearly shows an alien. The engineers were very familiar with those creatures prior to this movie.

A bunch of face huggers apparently escaped and were implanted in them and blew out their chests at some point, and the few left were running from full blown aliens. Since the movies (yes even including 3) show that the aliens DNA changes based on it's hosts, it's entirely possible the aliens were a bit different than what is in the other movies.

 

[rahul]

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Stated before in this thread, but the mural on the wall very clearly shows an alien. The engineers were very familiar with those creatures prior to this movie.

A bunch of face huggers apparently escaped and were implanted in them and blew out their chests at some point, and the few left were running from full blown aliens. Since the movies (yes even including 3) show that the aliens DNA changes based on it's hosts, it's entirely possible the aliens were a bit different than what is in the other movies.

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There is also a scene, when they first enter the engineer complex, where David finds bits of goop on the wall, similar to what the xenomorphs line their nests with in Aliens

 

[Genx87]

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Aliens have been around before the time period in this movie. Predator is set within the same universe and they have been hunting alien a long time. They used humans as incubators for aliens as a right of passage. And in predator II the ship had the skull of an alien on the wall. I should rewatch that movie and see if that wall contains an engineers skull.

 

[ImpulsE69]

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Aliens have been around before the time period in this movie. Predator is set within the same universe and they have been hunting alien a long time. They used humans as incubators for aliens as a right of passage. And in predator II the ship had the skull of an alien on the wall. I should rewatch that movie and see if that wall contains an engineers skull.

Just for the record. The AvP movies (and the skull from Predator) do not count at all towards canon.