Ridley Scott's "Prometheus"

[randomrogue]

Generally speaking we all have our favorite directors and others who we don't like so much.

I like James Cameron, Ridley Scott, Scorsese, Kubrick, Francis Ford Coppola, and Spielberg for example.

I'm not a big fan of Woody Allen and Tim Burton though.

Pretty sure all these directors are considered to be pretty damn good though.

 

[Aikouka]

Now Body of Lies, American Gangster, Black Hawk Down, Gladiator, Alien, etc? hell yeah! That's the good stuff!

I liked American Gangster (and own it on Blu-Ray), but I didn't care much of Body of Lies. It wasn't a bad movie, but I think I would say that it's not my sort of movie. I ended up getting bored halfway through. I still finished it, but I never got caught up in the intrigue of it all.

I might be chastised for admitting this, but I've never seen Black Hawk Down.

EDIT:

I'm not a big fan of ... Tim Burton though.

I think it would be hard to say that I dislike all of Burton's films. Edward Scissorhands is a good movie along with the odd, yet intriguing Big Fish. As a note, he wrote the prior, but didn't write the latter. Although, I think that as of late, he tries to make stuff too weird.

 

[Arkaign]

I liked American Gangster (and own it on Blu-Ray), but I didn't care much of Body of Lies. It wasn't a bad movie, but I think I would say that it's not my sort of movie. I ended up getting bored halfway through. I still finished it, but I never got caught up in the intrigue of it all.

I might be chastised for admitting this, but I've never seen Black Hawk Down.

Ah, I can understand that. I have a lot of personal experience with the material involved with Body of Lies, so it really struck a chord with me.

As for BHD, it's a great interpretation, but even so, it's 10,000x better as the novel it came from. It's one of the single greatest pieces of military writing ever made, and there is so much sourcing and detail in it that it could have filled at least a 10-episode HBO series that kept things mostly in realtime. Getting the thoughts of everyone involved makes it so much more immersive than just seeing people running around doing things.

That's in no way a bash on Scott for that film, he did absolutely top notch work with it, it's just that so much is lost in the adaptation.

 

[Ichinisan]

Wasn't Ridley Scott's Robin Hood not really favored either?

I really liked that one.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Spoiler

Aliens have been around before the time period in this movie. Predator is set within the same universe and they have been hunting alien a long time. They used humans as incubators for aliens as a right of passage. And in predator II the ship had the skull of an alien on the wall. I should rewatch that movie and see if that wall contains an engineers skull.

...yeah. That can be correctly stated as a "100% match."

Because, as my stats prof said, .999999... = 1

 

[SKORPI0]

Spoiler

And in predator II the ship had the skull of an alien on the wall. I should rewatch that movie and see if that wall contains an engineers skull.

Doesn't look like there is any.

 

[Magusigne]

From 1978 painting by Giger. The Man with the plan. Space Jockey's.. explains some things maybe?


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[Triumph]

I think Predator 1 is a better movie than Prometheus.

 

[classy]

I thought it was ehhhh......
Slow, very slow and just seemed to muddle along. Not a bad film, but awkward.

 

[sigurros81]

I'm normally not a fan of 3D movies, but I saw this in IMAX 3D, blew me away. The first 10-15 minutes was worth the price of admission.

I really enjoyed the movie, there were some plot points that annoyed me as it fell to the horror movie convention of people doing stupid shit to move the story forward, but everything else I really enjoyed. There are two types of movie watchers, and I fall into the category of liking it when movies leave some plot open to interpretation.

 

[Magusigne]

There were quite a few things that bothered me.

Spoiler

1) The fact that the geologist and the one responsible for MAPPING the complex gets lost.. BS.
2) The pile of engineer bodies with chest burster holes. Why don't they have some form of weaponry to combat these creatures? Did they all get face hugged? Is that what David found on the initial hologram controls? Alien goo?
3) Why were all the engineers running TOWARD the alien goo room?
4) The mural shows a already evolved Alien (Like from Alien and Aliens
5) This happens I think only 30 years prior to LV-426 (Alien).
6) Did David say something to engineer to the effect of Kill the humans they are evil (Every child wants there parents dead)

 

[sigurros81]

I will say this about the movie, while there are a few gripes about illogical plot devices and underdeveloped character stories, the movie got me thinking about the various themes presented. Most movies these days, whether good or bad, tend to be quickly forgotten by me when I leave the theater, but I actually caught myself reading up blogs and write ups on various websites about Prometheus. That, to me, is the essence of movie watching, to get you enthralled and lost in the world created by the movie makers.

 

[ImpulsE69]

I will say this about the movie, while there are a few gripes about illogical plot devices and underdeveloped character stories, the movie got me thinking about the various themes presented. Most movies these days, whether good or bad, tend to be quickly forgotten by me when I leave the theater, but I actually caught myself reading up blogs and write ups on various websites about Prometheus. That, to me, is the essence of movie watching, to get you enthralled and lost in the world created by the movie makers.

Agreed. :thumbsup:

 

[Dr. Zaus]

I will say this about the movie, while there are a few gripes about illogical plot devices and underdeveloped character stories, the movie got me thinking about the various themes presented. Most movies these days, whether good or bad, tend to be quickly forgotten by me when I leave the theater, but I actually caught myself reading up blogs and write ups on various websites about Prometheus. That, to me, is the essence of movie watching, to get you enthralled and lost in the world created by the movie makers.

http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/-this-relentless-video-runs.html

 

[sigurros81]

http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/-this-relentless-video-runs.html

Great link, I actually clicked back to the main page and read Ebert's article on Panspermia, fun read.

 

[BladeVenom]

I liked Forbes review. http://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddi...ometheus-is-a-visually-stunning-epic-failure/

 

[surfsatwerk]

I liked Forbes review. http://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddi...ometheus-is-a-visually-stunning-epic-failure/

I wanted to like it, but this guy hit the nail on the head.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

http://www.criticswatch.com/reviews/spoony-vlog-6-8-12-prometheus

 

[Inspector Jihad]

i wanted to like it but it had more plot holes than i could possibly ignore. who green-lights shit movies like this?

 

[Chiropteran]

i wanted to like it but it had more plot holes than i could possibly ignore. who green-lights shit movies like this?

Such as?

A lot of the "plot holes" are not really holes at all when you consider emotions and motivation of the various characters.

 

[Aikouka]

I liked Forbes review. http://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddi...ometheus-is-a-visually-stunning-epic-failure/

I'll say it again, if you spend a ton of time trying to become emotionally vested with the characters, you will probably dislike this movie. Normally, I prefer an emotional attachment to characters, but I didn't really care with this movie. The movie was more like an amusement park ride. The cast was not much more than other attendees around you that provided some emotional ambiance.

Also, I never understood the fascination with Ripley. I've seen Alien and Aliens, and Weaver's character doesn't seem to be much better than Rapace's character. It's been awhile since I've seen Alien, but if I recall, they did spend a little more time having other characters interact with Ripley. However, I wouldn't consider this substantial enough to consider the characters that different.

Although, if you look at my previous posts, you'll see that I've made similar remarks as found in the review. I recall mentioning that Prometheus had some elements from the horror genre with how characters were more or less fodder for suspense/scares. Is this necessarily a bad thing? I think that depends on what you were expecting from the movie.

Is Prometheus a great movie? No. I'd consider it a good movie that I did enjoy watching. Although, it certainly felt like more of a borderline popcorn flick, which tends to be a negative attribute that people apply to movies.

 

[dmoney1980]

Question about a scene in the begining of the movie with David:

Spoiler

You see David taking "language lessons" with someone, and it seems to be the same language the space jockeys use. How did they know what language the architects spoke?

 

[Aikouka]

Question about a scene in the begining of the movie with David:

Spoiler

You see David taking "language lessons" with someone, and it seems to be the same language the space jockeys use. How did they know what language the architects spoke?

I assume it's similar to how the found the carvings in the caves. They probably had some ancient references.

Although, I wouldn't worry so much about small things like what you mentioned. While it might be nice to know, it doesn't really affect the story at all. They could have easily showed things like that, but as I mentioned in a thread on Men in Black 3, there's just no point in adding detail that doesn't add much to the story. Sure, it might be nifty to know, but if we kept doing that, the movie might be 3 hours long!

One thing that I think is worth mentioning... a good screenwriter is capable of including little details like that into the script without having to shove everything in your face. An example of how this could have taken place is that Noomi's character could have referenced it at one point when David was reading the markings on the cave's wall.

 

[KaOTiK]

Question about a scene in the begining of the movie with David:

Spoiler

You see David taking "language lessons" with someone, and it seems to be the same language the space jockeys use. How did they know what language the architects spoke?

Spoiler

They didn't know. He was learning all known languages so that he could understand the engineers language. David did make a comment about that when they asked him if he could understand their language. Though this brought up another thing to me, why wouldn't he just be programmed with all this knowledge from the start?

 

[Harrod]

I liked it, I kindof wonder where they will take the story from here now.