Ridley Scott's "Prometheus"

[SP33Demon]

Are you serious? What should we have been thinking about while every decision made by each crew member was idiotic? EVEN if one understood the story fully without seeing any Scott interviews, the actual script and character development are a joke. People that don't think the movie was great have pointed out a thousand reasons for this opinion, while people saying this was a good/great/amazing/epic have nothing more to say other than the haters are 'dumb'.

Also I'm not sure how to depict technology in movies as it advances in real life, but really seeing low res blurry video feeds was laughable to me. Its 100 years from now, I didn't need to see optic nerve communication, but how about iphone level quality? If he is intent on creating such a believable world you need to have some level of uniformity. Having fucking holograms in the same movie as video cameras from my LG VX6000 is a joke to a lot of people. What if they were using cans with strings attached to communicate?

EDIT: this thread has 300 replies because the movie has been hyped for 2 years as a genre defining flick but it turns out it was only slightly better than Mission to Mars.

The quality was fine, and when it wasn't fine it was because of the storm. You're whining about something that is stupid.

If you're going to whine, how about the 2 guys who were in charge of mapping that wanted to leave early because they were scared. And then end up stuck in there overnight when they could clearly hear on the comm system that they had to get out in 15 minutes? That is a lot more legit than omgscreensweren't1920X1080!

 

[SP33Demon]

Watched the movie -- was hoping for more. Not really sure what to say. The movie leaves me confused and yearning for more details about the story line.

I know, it didn't have KABOOMMICHEALBAYSPOONFEDPLOT that you're used to. I'm sure you won't get hurt if you try to think about where the plot wasn't explained. God fcking forbid.

 

[Insomniator]

The quality was fine, and when it wasn't fine it was because of the storm. You're whining about something that is stupid.

If you're going to whine, how about the 2 guys who were in charge of mapping that wanted to leave early because they were scared. And then end up stuck in there overnight when they could clearly hear on the comm system that they had to get out in 15 minutes? That is a lot more legit than omgscreensweren't1920X1080!

I only mentioned that video issue because that was discussed. There are plenty of other issues with those two guys, and the rest of this movie.

I'm not saying the story is bad, I actually like the idea and admit I had to read about it after leaving the movie to really understand what was happening. Maybe if I was more well versed at what he was basing the story on I would have understood it more clearly during my first viewing. However even given that, the actual MOVIE aspect of this was bad. The script, the decisions made, the characters, the ending (LOL at the ending) I wish it was a book... and I'm not one to normally say that. I also wish they never bothered trying establish a connection between this movie and Alien.

 

[Chiropteran]

but how about iphone level quality? If he is intent on creating such a believable world you need to have some level of uniformity. Having fucking holograms in the same movie as video cameras from my LG VX6000 is a joke to a lot of people.

Why is this hard to understand?

Take your iphone to the moon and see how it does. We have the communications we have here in the cities and built up suburbs because of the infrastructure. Where we don't have infrastructure, we still have some long range communication via satellite.

Neither of which exists on some planet we are visiting for the first time ever. There was no cell phone towers, there was no satellites in orbit to bounce signals. It's not too much of a stretch for me to assume that they had to make due with some lower resolution images due to lack of strong long range comms.

 

[SP33Demon]

I only mentioned that video issue because that was discussed. There are plenty of other issues with those two guys, and the rest of this movie.

I'm not saying the story is bad, I actually like the idea and admit I had to read about it after leaving the movie to really understand what was happening. Maybe if I was more well versed at what he was basing the story on I would have understood it more clearly during my first viewing. However even given that, the actual MOVIE aspect of this was bad. The script, the decisions made, the characters, the ending (LOL at the ending) I wish it was a book... and I'm not one to normally say that. I also wish they never bothered trying establish a connection between this movie and Alien.

I also agree that the last 60 seconds was a really bad decision. But I bet we'll find out that Scott was forced to put that in there to please the masses.

The script wasn't great, but Rapace and Fassbender were spectacular. Their characters alone made this worth watching. Elba was decent as well. The decisions that they made weren't fully explained, especially Fassbender (David). That is part of the intrigue that will be explained in the sequel.

 

[Magusigne]

I also agree that the last 60 seconds was a really bad decision. But I bet we'll find out that Scott was forced to put that in there to please the masses.

The script wasn't great, but Rapace and Fassbender were spectacular. Their characters alone made this worth watching. Elba was decent as well. The decisions that they made weren't fully explained, especially Fassbender (David). That is part of the intrigue that will be explained in the sequel.

Agreed. Fassbender honestly made the movie for me. The characters were all MEH (even Rapace for me honestly). I don't watch Alien movies for characters really though..but Fassbender was pretty awesome..

 

[Gigantopithecus]

I don't watch Alien movies for characters really though..

 

[Saint Nick]

I know, it didn't have KABOOMMICHEALBAYSPOONFEDPLOT that you're used to. I'm sure you won't get hurt if you try to think about where the plot wasn't explained. God fcking forbid.

I actually managed to sprain my ankle thinking about it...thanks jerk!

 

[surfsatwerk]

Agreed. Fassbender honestly made the movie for me. The characters were all MEH (even Rapace for me honestly). I don't watch Alien movies for characters really though..but Fassbender was pretty awesome..

Bishop was a stud.

 

[SP33Demon]

I actually managed to sprain my ankle thinking about it...thanks jerk!

 

[Magusigne]

Bishop was a stud.

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You would have also thought that a tiny Bluetooth chip (or w/e more advanced tech would be present in the head of a android to send signals to the body...problem solved...

 

[BudAshes]

The problem with this movie was the writers. They wrote a bad movie and ridley scott is a good enough director that the movie is still entertaining. But the more you think about this movie the worse it gets and that's never a good thing. After watching it I kept trying to convince myself it was good, but the plot is really just nonsensical. None of it really makes any sense whatsoever so basically you better just watch this in 3d and enjoy the visuals.

 

[surfsatwerk]

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You would have also thought that a tiny Bluetooth chip (or w/e more advanced tech would be present in the head of a android to send signals to the body...problem solved...

Bishop didn't need those gizmos to kick ass and take names.

 

[BladeVenom]

There was a brief talk about that machine early in the movie, about how old it was and Vickers was like "don't touch it, it's an antique". It wasn't supposed to be an example of the latest and greatest technology of the age.

She said "Please don't touch that. It's a very expensive piece of machinery.

If it was obsolete and not very good, it wouldn't be very expensive. They just spent a trillion dollars on the mission, so if they say something is very expensive, the obvious conclusion is it's top of the line.

From the promotional poster, it looks like it's the latest and greatest from Weyland Industries. http://www.prometheus-movie.com/uploads/prometheus_medpod720i.jpg

This is a different planet. It doesn't have cell phone repeater towers setup. We are connected because of the infrastructure here, try going out into the desert and see how your cell phone works. It makes enough sense to me that they would limit the bandwidth usage of video and such to make sure there remained enough for communications.

They weren't very far apart. They were in line of sight to the structure housing the ship.

 

[surfsatwerk]

The problem with this movie was the writers. They wrote a bad movie and ridley scott is a good enough director that the movie is still entertaining. But the more you think about this movie the worse it gets and that's never a good thing. After watching it I kept trying to convince myself it was good, but the plot is really just nonsensical. None of it really makes any sense whatsoever so basically you better just watch this in 3d and enjoy the visuals.

That Lost guy needs to be drug out into the street and have both his hands broke.

 

[Magusigne]

She said "Please don't touch that. It's a very expensive piece of machinery.

If it was obsolete and not very good, it wouldn't be very expensive. They just spent a trillion dollars on the mission, so if they say something is very expensive, the obvious conclusion is it's top of the line.

From the promotional poster, it looks like it's the latest and greatest from Weyland Industries. http://www.prometheus-movie.com/uploads/prometheus_medpod720i.jpg



They weren't very far apart. They were in line of sight to the structure housing the ship.

We can go down this road all day...maybe the compound was made of pure lead..or perhaps some soft of alien dampening field surrounded it to prevent it's detection =D

 

[torpid]

We can go down this road all day...maybe the compound was made of pure lead..or perhaps some soft of alien dampening field surrounded it to prevent it's detection =D

Maybe when I poop, rainbow-filled leprechauns with pots of gold come out. Good writing doesn't require someone to write a new story to explain the gaps in the original story. I am sure any one of us could take the script and write some horse crap explanation for all of the stuff that didn't make sense. That, actually, is kind of the point.

 

[Magusigne]

Maybe when I poop, rainbow-filled leprechauns with pots of gold come out. Good writing doesn't require someone to write a new story to explain the gaps in the original story. I am sure any one of us could take the script and write some horse crap explanation for all of the stuff that didn't make sense. That, actually, is kind of the point.

This is true. I guess that would have been actually fair if the geologist mentioned something about his readings being unable to penetrate the surface... he said "It's hollow".

 

[BladeVenom]

We can go down this road all day...maybe the compound was made of pure lead..or perhaps some soft of alien dampening field surrounded it to prevent it's detection =D

There are so many things definitely wrong with the script and characters, that I'll agree that's not an important issue.

I think it was probably an artistic decision to make the vids look that way.

 

[Aikouka]

The fact that this thread has almost 300 replies negates "popcorn flick" status.

Well, given that "popcorn flick" doesn't exactly have a definition in Webster's, I can't exactly call you wrong. However, I will anyway!

You, sir, are wrong!

In my opinion, "popcorn flick" has absolutely nothing to do with the popularity of a movie, which is what you would attribute the number of posts in a thread to. Being a popcorn flick is all about how you can sit down and enjoy the movie without the necessity of having to analyze every scene. Typically, popcorn flicks are action movies (see: Michael Bay ).

Let's look at this bit that you said:

The only ones complaining are the ones who do not like to think properly. For example, optic nerve communication in 2093? WTF are you smoking? I think Transformers boom assplosion spoonfed plots have rotted out half of this forum's mindset.

See, I just can't help but disagree with this. I didn't see Prometheus as much of an "intellectual movie". Sure, there's stuff that you can think about. For example, I mentioned the mural with the Xenomorph earlier in the thread. If you didn't notice this at all, it wouldn't affect your ability to understand this movie in the least bit. That's why I don't count these things as stopping Prometheus from being a popcorn flick. They aren't required to understand the central plot of the movie.

Ultimately, I don't want you to misunderstand me. I liked the movie, but I still don't think it was that deep. A lot of the stuff that people bring up... honestly, they don't matter much. Sure, in the real world, Rapace should have torn her sutures out within minutes with what she was doing, but who cares? I'm too busy munching on my popcorn to care!

 

[torpid]

A movie that intentionally has themes of man's hubris, self-sacrifice, genetic engineering, artificial intelligence, and the like aspires to be more than a popcorn flick. We as the audience can ignore this and watch all the pretty lights buzz about the screen as if it were a popcorn flick, but that is reducing this to something lesser than it wants to be. It also makes it a better film because reducing out the "science fiction" aspects means throwing out the garbage present in the script. So, yeah, we like it as a popcorn flick, but no, it was not really meant to be such.

 

[Magusigne]

There are so many things definitely wrong with the script and characters, that I'll agree that's not an important issue.

I think it was probably an artistic decision to make the vids look that way.

Nothing too much is wrong with Fassbender though. He nailed it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOOJl5lWNfM

His character had some depth too.

 

[polarmystery]

Can anyone explain why the

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robot poisoned the male scientist?

I couldn't quite understand why he did that.

 

[torpid]

Can anyone explain why the

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robot poisoned the male scientist?

I couldn't quite understand why he did that.

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I took it as him experimenting to see what the stuff does because his mission was to help weyland extend his life

 

[PottedMeat]

Can anyone explain why the

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robot poisoned the male scientist?

I couldn't quite understand why he did that.

david's been talking to weyland the whole trip, i think he had an expectation that something relevant to cheating death would happen the first time they went out. but nothing did. talking to weyland again he was told to 'try harder' - put the black goo to a human and see what happens.

don't bother with spoiler tags anymore.