Ridley Scott's "Prometheus"

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glen

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Also, how did Stringer Bell escape the Barksdale organisation and become a spaceship captain?
 

SithSolo1

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Saw it last night, thought it was pretty cool.

A lot the girls/women in the theater got freaked/grossed out with the C-section sequence and were complaining about it after the movie.

Also when a massive object is rolling toward you in a straight line faster than you can run, run away from it in a straight line in the direction its rolling. /woman logic

Doing a barrel roll will save you from said object until it stops on a dime and falls in the direction you rolled but luckily you find a 2ft tall outcrop of stone to save you again.
 
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I'm guessing it was because David said something hostile. That is the burning question, what did David say to the Engineer? It could have changed the entire sequence of events.

That's most definitely what happens, you can see that David has emotions and that he seems to resent humans, most likely for thinking they are better than him, he also points towards wanting us dead when he says to Shaw "doesn't every child want to see their parents dead." So he most likely tells the Space jockey that they are here to exterminate them, or something along those lines, which is why he all of a sudden flips out and kills them all.
 

Ichinisan

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My biggest problem with the movie is one scene:
The two guys who are initially "scared" and wanted to go back to the ship are the ones left in the caves overnight. ...
It's because they tried to go back alone that they got lost.

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OK, nevermind. You're right. If he was the one in charge of the mapping drones, how the hell did he get lost?
 
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UncleWai

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The movie tried to do too many things in 2 hours
All the characters except david were underdeveloped.
Charlize theron's role was a complete waste
 

Ichinisan

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I'm guessing it was because David said something hostile. That is the burning question, what did David say to the Engineer? It could have changed the entire sequence of events.
I believe he told the Engineer exactly what Weyland told him to say. He was obedient to his creator. That's why he refused to tell anyone what he was doing when he was following Weyland's commands and no one else knew Weyland was aboard.
 

SP33Demon

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I believe he told the Engineer exactly what Weyland told him to say. He was obedient to his creator. That's why he refused to tell anyone what he was doing when he was following Weyland's commands and no one else knew Weyland was aboard.

It's still not out of the realm of belief that David could have said something hostile to the Engineer. It's possible that David has free will now since it's unlikely his programming would have him kill a human unprovoked, and disobey direct commands from his superiors (Theron). The fact that he wanted to kill his parents (humans) could also include Weyland (who refers to him as his son). Getting back to the Engineer wouldn't be possible (without arousing suspicion) without Weyland's trip; it serves as the perfect mechanism to destroy his "parents" and could have all been part of his plan.
 

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Utterly horrid cheating waste of film. The writing was just abysmal. Continuity... So disappointed.:hmm:
 

Aikouka

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However what they call Imax these days is kinda disappointing. Imax back in the day was a huge dome that was absolutely ginormous where you'd watch Animal shows that were filmed with an Imax fisheye camera. Today it's just a bigger rectangular screen and not by much. YMMV.

Those are still available. They're called IMAX Dome theaters, and they typically show things like you mention... documentaries and such. We have a IMAX 3D Theater and a IMAX Dome in town, but I've never actually been to the dome. The IMAX is on the other side of town, and unlike the theater close to me, it doesn't have assigned seating.

I bought a ticket to a 2D showing, 'cause I don't need to spend $2 for lame effects that I never notice anyway. I have 3D glasses at home too, and I still find that I push them down often because I can't tell what's actually in 3D.
 

Ichinisan

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I'm guessing it was because David said something hostile. That is the burning question, what did David say to the Engineer? It could have changed the entire sequence of events.
That's most definitely what happens, you can see that David has emotions and that he seems to resent humans, most likely for thinking they are better than him, ...
I don't think so.
The space jockey flipped-out on David too.

I think David said what his creator told him to say. I don't think he resents humans.

... he also points towards wanting us dead when he says to Shaw "doesn't every child want to see their parents dead." So he most likely tells the Space jockey that they are here to exterminate them, or something along those lines, which is why he all of a sudden flips out and kills them all.

I think he's obedient to his creator, Mr. Weyland. Wasn't his line ("doesn't everyone want to kill their parents?") spoken to Vickers, Weyland's daughter, not to Shaw? It seemed that Vickers wanted Weyland to die and give up his power / control.
 
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zerocool84

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Well I guess this is a spoiler thread now. I came in here to read more reviews of the movie and it's not any more. Someone needs to change the title to include spoilers.
 

Ichinisan

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It's still not out of the realm of belief that David could have said something hostile to the Engineer. It's possible that David has free will now since it's unlikely his programming would have him kill a human unprovoked, and disobey direct commands from his superiors (Theron). The fact that he wanted to kill his parents (humans) could also include Weyland (who refers to him as his son). Getting back to the Engineer wouldn't be possible (without arousing suspicion) without Weyland's trip; it serves as the perfect mechanism to destroy his "parents" and could have all been part of his plan.

Yes, it is definitely possible that he said something hostile to the Engineer...but it's nowhere near "certain."

By disobeying Vickers' authority, David was following the orders of a higher-up superior (Weyland).

Maybe I missed the part where he kills a human unprovoked. I'm pretty sure Weyland told David to test the black fluid on the guy that he infected.
 

Ichinisan

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Well I guess this is a spoiler thread now. I came in here to read more reviews of the movie and it's not any more. Someone needs to change the title to include spoilers.

The
spoiler
tags aren't working for you? You're probably reading them anyway out of habit.

You're probably talking about this:
Also, how did Stringer Bell escape the Barksdale organisation and become a spaceship captain?

That does not include any plot points. I assume glen is talking about some "Stringer Bell" character played by Idris Elba in another movie or TV show. "Stringer Bell" is not a character in this movie and there is no "Barksdale organisation" in this movie.
 
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Ichinisan

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saw in imax last night. no black bars. kick ass 3d and I've not been a huge fan of the new 3d. They did it right here though. Everything looked so crisp, and instead of stuff popping out at you (which most movies are trying to do with this new 3d), the characters in the movie just seemed to have more dimension to them. It was bad ass in my book

Yeah. My first IMAX 3D film and it really worked. Futuristic holograms and terrain scenes were especially awesome.
 

BladeVenom

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I think he's obedient to his creator, Mr. Weyland. Wasn't his line ("doesn't everyone want to kill their parents?") spoken to Vickers, Weyland's daughter, not to Shaw? It seemed that Vickers wanted Weyland to die and give up his power / control.

No, he said it to Noomi Rapace, and she replied, "I didn't."

It seemed to me he didn't like humans.
 

randomrogue

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Well I guess this is a spoiler thread now. I came in here to read more reviews of the movie and it's not any more. Someone needs to change the title to include spoilers.

You mean the spoiler tags don't give it away?

Go see the movie and then join us.
 

Ichinisan

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It's still not out of the realm of belief that David could have said something hostile to the Engineer. It's possible that David has free will now since it's unlikely his programming would have him kill a human unprovoked, and disobey direct commands from his superiors (Theron). The fact that he wanted to kill his parents (humans) could also include Weyland (who refers to him as his son). Getting back to the Engineer wouldn't be possible (without arousing suspicion) without Weyland's trip; it serves as the perfect mechanism to destroy his "parents" and could have all been part of his plan.
Yes, it is definitely possible that he said something hostile to the Engineer...but it's nowhere near "certain."

By disobeying Vickers' authority, David was following the orders of a higher-up superior (Weyland).

Maybe I missed the part where he kills a human unprovoked. I'm pretty sure Weyland told David to test the black fluid on the guy that he infected.
...also, I think that, if David really wanted to, he would have killed Weyland and the other humans while they were in-stasis during the trip.
 

ImpulsE69

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I think David is much like all the other androids in the series. He's just following programming/orders. I do believe Weyland told him to test the ooze on someone, thus the question "how far would you go to meet your maker?" He gave Halloway an out, but he took it hook line and sinker when he said "I'd do anything".

I think the maniacal sense that people are getting about David is simply the lack of emotion and trying to tie it to emotion that isn't there. He says what he thinks and is told, and that is all. I think what he said to the engineer was what Weyland told him to. I think the engineers reaction was one of pity and anger and rejection.

There really is a plot hole with David and Shaw. There was a line he says right after Shaw does the C-section, "You're much more resourceful than I gave you credit for". Shouldn't she have said something to everyone else standing around in that room about what had just transpired?
 

Ichinisan

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I think David is much like all the other androids in the series. He's just following programming/orders. I do believe Weyland told him to test the ooze on someone, thus the question "how far would you go to meet your maker?" He gave Halloway an out, but he took it hook line and sinker when he said "I'd do anything".

I think the maniacal sense that people are getting about David is simply the lack of emotion and trying to tie it to emotion that isn't there. He says what he thinks and is told, and that is all. I think what he said to the engineer was what Weyland told him to. I think the engineers reaction was one of pity and anger and rejection.
...and that's basically the way I see it.

There really is a plot hole with David and Shaw. There was a line he says right after Shaw does the C-section, "You're much more resourceful than I gave you credit for". Shouldn't she have said something to everyone else standing around in that room about what had just transpired?
If I recall correctly, there's a hard cut after that scene. I assume she told them everything.
David didn't put the thing in her or anything like that. I'm not sure if David could have known if the "pregnancy" was life-threatening.
 

Ichinisan

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Personally,
I
also
kinda
think
that,
maybe,
when
she
went
into
the
thing
at
the
end
of
the
thing
yes
this
is
a
troll
post
I
made
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highlight
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spoilers
one-
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time.
Ha
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Cheater. :colbert:
 

SKORPI0

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Personally,
I
also
kinda
think
that,
maybe,
when
she
went
into
the
thing
at
the
end
of
the
thing
yes
this
is
a
troll
post
I
made
you
highlight
the
spoilers
one-
at-
a-
time.
Ha
ha.
S
P
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Cheater. :colbert:

Highlight area and left mouse click shows everything. :rolleyes:
 

Ichinisan

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Oct 9, 2002
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Personally,
I
also
kinda
think
that,
maybe,
when
she
went
into
the
thing
at
the
end
of
the
thing
yes
this
is
a
troll
post
I
made
you
highlight
the
spoilers
one-
at-
a-
time.
Ha
ha.
S
P
O
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L
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R.
Cheater. :colbert:
Highlight area and left mouse click shows everything. :rolleyes:

Did you see this part?

Still 100% effective for touch-screen smartphone users.
 

Number1

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Personally,
I
also
kinda
think
that,
maybe,
when
she
went
into
the
thing
at
the
end
of
the
thing
yes
this
is
a
troll
post
I
made
you
highlight
the
spoilers
one-
at-
a-
time.
Ha
ha.
S
P
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Cheater. :colbert:

LOL

Anyway, at the end, when they take off with the engineer ship to go to their planet, how long is the trip going to take? Won't she need food, water, restrooms and anything else necessary for life. What will she do once there? Deliver the cargo of WMD? Just crashing onto the planet should be enough to wipe them out. I mean, the previous attempt at communicating with an engineer was widely unsuccessful so why bother.

I don't think David was rude to the engineer or that what he said pissed the engineer off. The engineer is just basically out to destroy us and anything that we created, especially smart ass robots. By the way, Fassbender's performance was outstanding.

Why did the engineer race completely abandoned any further attempt to destroy earth after the initial failure?

How did the aborted alien grow? What did it feed on? As I understand the story it was abandoned and locked up in a sterile room.

I am just having fun here, I loved the movie.
 

Ichinisan

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Anyway, at the end, when they take off with the engineer ship to go to their planet, how long is the trip going to take? Won't she need food, water, restrooms and anything else necessary for life. What will she do once there? Deliver the cargo of WMD?

The Engineer spacecraft also has cryo-sleep chambers that should be compatible with our near-identical physiology.

Why did the engineer race completely abandoned any further attempt to destroy earth after the initial failure?

They probably didn't expect a failed evacuation.

How did the aborted alien grow? What did it feed on? As I understand the story it was abandoned and locked up in a sterile room.

I am just having fun here, I loved the movie.
It's consistent with the first Alien movie. In the first Alien movie, the creature grows and changes forms before consuming anything. Xenomorphs must be able to convert the air into solid material somehow. I imagine it would take a huge volume of air to make a tiny amount of solid material.