Republicans in Arizona attempting mass voter fraud with the 2020 ballots.

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NWRMidnight

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Let them do it.. it will end up like Pennsylvania where they found voter fraud..... committed by the GOP!
 

rommelrommel

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I would suggest their replacement red pens be checked to see what colour of ink they actually produce.
Given what zealots these people are maybe a booty hole check would be advised too.
 
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hal2kilo

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Not going to read through all the post responses, but after seeing a report that this is partially privately funded, security non-existent, and pens in the area of actual ballets, there is nothing you can tell me, that will relax my concerns that the results cannot be in anyway, considered legitimate. Doesn't take a 10 year old to see what they are trying to do. Also, that those election results are now permanently tainted.
 
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And this:


AZ AG has time for this:


But not this:

 
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rommelrommel

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Not going to read through all the post responses, but after seeing a report that this is partially privately funded, security non-existent, and pens in the area of actual ballets, there is nothing you can tell me, that will relax my concerns that the results cannot be in anyway, considered legitimate. Doesn't take a 10 year old to see what they are trying to do. Also, that those election results are now permanently tainted.

The actual election results are fine, but this recount idea is irrevocably fucked.
 
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My feeling is that the State will go along with mucking it up. Otherwise, why did they start it?

Then, how will the Federal Courts handle it?
 

rommelrommel

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I think the root question the court has to answer is can the AZ Senate just do whatever the fuck they want with this or not.
 

HomerJS

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Propaganda firm OAN the only member of the media allowed to cover this charade. They are already putting out headlines of fraud found.

Can't the courts intercede and force an objective news source in the room? These are public ballots. They are not owned by the Republican Party.
 

sportage

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There has already been 3 or 4 legitimate recounts and all was well, so when these schmucks claim THEY FOUND SOMETHING, what will the state do? Believe the previous 4 legitimate recounts or believe some concoction of a recount by a bunch of Trump looneys? I say let them recount if that makes them happy because it won’t matter. I suspect their reasoning is to force this to the US Supreme Court.... again.... and again the court will tell them to get lost. Then they can cry foul and scream and yell OUTRAGE - FRAUD - RIGGED ELECTION because apparently all they really want is a reason to act like lunatics.
 

Jhhnn

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I think the root question the court has to answer is can the AZ Senate just do whatever the fuck they want with this or not.

Like what, exactly? They're just posturing to froth up their Trumpster base. Flooding the zone with shit. The results of this so called audit won't affect the election or change any minds.
 

fskimospy

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There has already been 3 or 4 legitimate recounts and all was well, so when these schmucks claim THEY FOUND SOMETHING, what will the state do? Believe the previous 4 legitimate recounts or believe some concoction of a recount by a bunch of Trump looneys? I say let them recount if that makes them happy because it won’t matter. I suspect their reasoning is to force this to the US Supreme Court.... again.... and again the court will tell them to get lost. Then they can cry foul and scream and yell OUTRAGE - FRAUD - RIGGED ELECTION because apparently all they really want is a reason to act like lunatics.
There’s nothing to be done, absolutely nothing can change the outcome of the 2020 election now. This is purely an exercise to attempt to undermine the legitimacy of our democracy because they can’t admit they lost.

If Joe Biden stood up before America this afternoon and confessed to America that he used child blood and 5G to steal the election and Trump was the guy that really got the most votes nothing would change. Congress could impeach him, but the president is the person who gets the most electoral college votes, as certified by Congress, as conservatives like to remind us so often.
 
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brycejones

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Remember how in 2017-2020 republicans constantly claimed opposition to Trump wasn’t because he was a corrupt, incompetent sociopath but instead because Democrats couldn’t accept they lost an election? As with everything else, this turned out to be projection.
Great Original Projectionists
 

rommelrommel

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Like what, exactly? They're just posturing to froth up their Trumpster base. Flooding the zone with shit. The results of this so called audit won't affect the election or change any minds.

Well, that no reasonable person would ever allow an obvious partisan with no experience to conduct a secret audit by his own personal rules and methods that he won’t disclose with funding that he won’t disclose and making incredibly basic mistakes before he even started.

If the courts say that’s okay, it’s open season on a new level of posturing in which they’ll just do this every time they lose and the audits will discover that they “won.”
 
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hal2kilo

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And this:


AZ AG has time for this:


But not this:

Who the hell are these auditor clowns anyway. Nobody's ever heard of them.

‘Never heard of them’: Arizona GOP audit firm unknown even in home state - POLITICO

The so-called audit is one of the last dying gasps of Donald Trump’s supporters who continue to cling to the fiction that widespread fraud cost him the presidency in 2020. That conspiracy theory was advanced on the social media accounts of Cyber Ninjas and Logan himself before the posts were stricken.

The new audit will not change the 2020 election results in the state or nation, but it stands to further fuel claims of fraud in the Arizona election results.
 

Jhhnn

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Well, that no reasonable person would ever allow an obvious partisan with no experience to conduct a secret audit by his own personal rules and methods that he won’t disclose with funding that he won’t disclose and making incredibly basic mistakes before he even started.

If the courts say that’s okay, it’s open season on a new level of posturing in which they’ll just do this every time they lose and the audits will discover that they “won.”

And... they'll spew the same stolen election conspiracy theory if the courts shut it down. They'll flood the zone one way or another. I figure they'll lose voters either way. The whole thing is completely ridiculous other than to the delusional Trumpster faction of the GOP.

Who the hell are these auditor clowns anyway. Nobody's ever heard of them.

‘Never heard of them’: Arizona GOP audit firm unknown even in home state - POLITICO

The so-called audit is one of the last dying gasps of Donald Trump’s supporters who continue to cling to the fiction that widespread fraud cost him the presidency in 2020. That conspiracy theory was advanced on the social media accounts of Cyber Ninjas and Logan himself before the posts were stricken.

The new audit will not change the 2020 election results in the state or nation, but it stands to further fuel claims of fraud in the Arizona election results.

Yeh, it's hard to grant credibility to an outfit that took on the name of Medieval Japanese mercenaries & dirty tricksters. From Wikipedia-

A ninja (忍者, Japanese pronunciation: [ɲiꜜɲdʑa]) or shinobi (忍び, [ɕinobi]) was a covert agent or mercenary in feudal Japan. The functions of a ninja included espionage, deception, and surprise attacks.[1] Their covert methods of waging irregular warfare were deemed dishonorable and beneath the honor of the samurai.[2] Though shinobi proper, as specially trained spies and mercenaries, appeared in the 15th century during the Sengoku period,[3] antecedents may have existed as early as the 12th century.

Trumpsters think it's cool & Cyber Ninjas will obviously pocket more money than they put into the work. Grifters gonna grift, and Trump opened up a whole bunch of opportunities.
 
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rommelrommel

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And... they'll spew the same stolen election conspiracy theory if the courts shut it down. They'll flood the zone one way or another. I figure they'll lose voters either way. The whole thing is completely ridiculous other than to the delusional Trumpster faction of the GOP.

You're not wrong there. I hope in the long run this does work against them in that way.
 

sportage

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There’s nothing to be done, absolutely nothing can change the outcome of the 2020 election now. This is purely an exercise to attempt to undermine the legitimacy of our democracy because they can’t admit they lost.

If Joe Biden stood up before America this afternoon and confessed to America that he used child blood and 5G to steal the election and Trump was the guy that really got the most votes nothing would change. Congress could impeach him, but the president is the person who gets the most electoral college votes, as certified by Congress, as conservatives like to remind us so often.


I do think that the media is making way too much out of this recount thingy. And Fox News only talks about Biden banning meat and Biden castrating Mr Potato Head. Then I realized why..... the why is because Joe Biden is now the president and frankly things are pretty much back to normal within America. We no longer have Donald Trump to put up with nor his crazy talk on a daily basis. Donald Trump was extreme drama, where as Joe Biden is like an afternoon visiting grandma and grandpa's house. Looks to me that the media is suffering from drama withdrawal syndrome. Fox news has lost their way and liberal media are making mountains out of molehills. Trump was an asshole and Biden is boring, and so here we are....