Release the Krak... err FISA Memo!

[snarfbot]

I tried to make this as clear as possible for you people. Don't gloss it over. The dossier didn't exist when the Dems took over funding, however data that went into the dossier was paid for by the Free Beacon. Technically they are correct they did not pay for the dossier buy their lawyers have testified and I am stating for the umpteenth time Free Beacon paid to compile data that was used in the creation of the dossier.

So the answer is GOP and Dems provided funding that helped in the creation of the dossier.

BTW - I doubt FGPS lawyers are going to risk disbarment by lying to Congress.

i am directly quoting the article written by the free beacon as linked and posted in its entirety in my previous post that you quoted.

All of the work that Fusion GPS provided to the Free Beacon was based on public sources, and none of the work product that the Free Beacon received appears in the Steele dossier.

i bolded the relevant parts that contradict the bolded parts of your statement.

 

[snarfbot]

uuugh

https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/release-the-krak-err-fisa-memo.2534611/page-37#post-39290400

ok where in that does it say anything about republicans funding the dossier?

 

[HomerJS]

ok where in that does it say anything about republicans funding the dossier?

Hey asshole this is the data used for the dossier. I explained the wording in an earlier post.

Lawyers for the conservative publication Washington Free Beacon informed the House Intelligence Committee Friday that the organization was the original funder for the anti-Trump opposition research project with Fusion GPS.

The Free Beacon funded the project from the fall of 2015 through the spring of 2016, whereupon it withdrew funding and the project was picked up by the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign.

 

[Jhhnn]

Here’s the argument.

• The Free Beacon payed Fusion for opposition research on Trump
• The Clinton campaign through a law firm took over paying for oppo research on Trump
• After Clinton took over then Steele came on board and produced the dossier

So republicans started the investigation but technically the Steele dossier was funded by the Dems.

And therefore none of it is true because... Hillary! Lock her up!

 

[snarfbot]

Hey asshole this is the data used for the dossier. I explained the wording in an earlier post.

you said before that the dossier was funded by both democrats and republicans, did you just make that up?

 

[Amused]

WaPo, Oct 31, 2017: Clinton’s link to Putin is the underreported ‘dossier’ bombshell

Do you even understand the difference between opinion/editorial and real news???

 

[Puffnstuff]

If Clinton is dirty, let's go after her too. Mueller certainly has the authority to follow this lead.

Absolutely I'm for uncovering all of the dirt surrounding this election and if Hillary ends up in court then so be it.

 

[Meghan54]

Couple of things that made me simultaneously chuckle and groan:

 

[Jhhnn]

you said before that the dossier was funded by both democrats and republicans, did you just make that up?

The free beacon initially hired fusion gps to do research on Trump. When he clinched the nomination, they quit & the DNC picked it up through a law firm. At that point fusion gps engaged Steele.

In no way does that discredit the dossier no matter how badly you wish it did.

 

[UNCjigga]

"None of the work product that Free Beacon received" does not actually answer the question, was there research paid for by WFB that appears in the Dossier?

It could very well be that Fusion GPS left unverified data out of any final report they gave to WFB when their contract ended, and then hired Steele to follow up on those unverified reports once they had a new benefactor. That's could just be conjecture, but nothing in WFB's statement eliminates that possibility.

Bottom line, we don't know. I'd be curious to know myself how Steele got involved...was he engaged by Fusion/Simpson directly, or was he recommended by Perkins Coie or someone at the DNC or the campaign, hell Clinton herself? Surely she or someone on her staff may have heard about him through State.

 

[Victorian Gray]

lol are you serious anandtech forum users? heres proof of all the collusion you were looking for, russian trolls, the use of the government spy apparatus to attack political opponents, but since it was the democrats doing it, then its all a lie right?

Vladi sends you kisses and hugs for doing such a good job. Sucks to be working for free though.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Trump's own tweets this morning prove that he didn't even read the memo in its shortened form. Sad when the president is such a buffoon that anything with more than one page is too much for him to handle.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-tweets-memo-totally-vindicates-him-russia-inquiry-n844406

 

[soundforbjt]

Trump's own tweets this morning prove that he didn't even read the memo in its shortened form. Sad when the president is such a buffoon that anything with more than one page is too much for him to handle.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-tweets-memo-totally-vindicates-him-russia-inquiry-n844406

That’s because his name wasn’t mentioned every other sentence.

 

[Victorian Gray]

WaPo, Oct 31, 2017: Clinton’s link to Putin is the underreported ‘dossier’ bombshell

An op ed by a Republican loyalist. Yep, I'm sold. Lock her up!

 

[Puffnstuff]

That’s because his name wasn’t mentioned every other sentence.

He's having trouble concentrating these days...

 

[UNCjigga]

Trump's own tweets this morning prove that he didn't even read the memo in its shortened form. Sad when the president is such a buffoon that anything with more than one page is too much for him to handle.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-tweets-memo-totally-vindicates-him-russia-inquiry-n844406

LOL, according to SHS, Trump spent "hours alone with the memo", and somehow he couldn't read 3.5 pages?

 

[Puffnstuff]

LOL, according to SHS, Trump spent "hours alone with the memo", and somehow he couldn't read 3.5 pages?

You know how it goes with Trump. Either he didn't read it, couldn't understand it or was distracted by something else.
Memo:

vs.

Cheeseburger:

 

[zerocool84]

This is like when lawyers try and discredit the witness as their only defense because they know they are guilty and have no evidence saying otherwise.

 

[ivwshane]

And the Wall Street Journal?

By all means, if you want to vouch for the dossier, show us the people and news organizations that also vouch for it.

I think it's impossible to settle this either way. We know Free Beacon funded Fusion GPS research, we know DNC/Clinton picked up funding after Trump became the nominee, and we know Steele came on after DNC/Clinton started funding. We don't know how much, if any, of the pre-Steele/pre-DNC/Clinton Fusion research made it into the dossier.

If anyone has a link from a reputable source that settles that, please share.

I'm not sure why any of that matters. The dossier was not the basis for the fisa warrants, therefore whether or not they are accurate or paid by a particular entity is irrelevant.

 

[Snarf Snarf]

I would like to state that I do not endorse or have any ties to the other Snarf in this thread.

I still can't understand anyone that doesn't have the opinion that this investigation needs to run it's course and anyone implicated needs to go down regardless of party. So. Very. Simple.

Bias doesn't matter when facts are corroborated through multiple sources. Just like confirmation bias does not make this memo mean anything despite conservatives wishing it was the bomb to end the probe. Evidence does all the talking that needs to be done, as long as it was gathered through legal means and didn't violate the constitutional rights of any citizens.

 

[umbrella39]

Thanks for being the Snarf with a brain...

 

[cytg111]

Absolutely I'm for uncovering all of the dirt surrounding this election and if Hillary ends up in court then so be it.

100pct and Mueller is the right man for the job. Get all sons of bitches.

 

[snarfbot]

yes we will see what mueller comes up with. how will you spin it when he finds no evidence of the trump team colluding with russia? like you said i guess well see.

 

[Puffnstuff]

yes we will see what mueller comes up with. how will you spin it when he finds no evidence of the trump team colluding with russia? like you said i guess well see.

Each time you post junk this is what we see.

 

[VRAMdemon]

Man, the shit you see on social media....

So now the FBI is suddenly home to a bunch of conspiratorial lefties who, like most SJWs, have an extensive background of busting drug smugglers, terrorists, mafia bosses, and so on, just as their day job; while at night they watch Samantha Bee and love every word of it.

And..that all those judges appointed by GWB who make up the bulk of the FISC were talented, right-thinking, limited government jurists when they were appointed, but turned into Deep State agents over the last decade who are obviously incapable of even asking questions of prosecutors like “So why should I believe this dude?” when reviewing an application for a warrant.

And...a rather undistinguished farmer (Nunes) who happened to be rewarded with a patronage position by being a John Boehner hatchet man, on complex matters of national security and law, instead of the emerging consensus of law enforcement and law experts on both sides of the political fence.

Yep...I'd say the memo accomplished what it was set out to accomplish..The purpose of the memo is to create public support among Republicans for Donald Trump to fire Rod Rosenstein and, thus, possibly Robert Mueller.

Full stop. That's it. Once that is done, no one will care about poor, Carter Page. And it's working, because the Trumpists have swallowed it. They have completely, totally bought not only the stupid memo but have read into it, as was intended, that everyone investigating Donald Trump is dirty and must all be fired.