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CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

So is he your President or not?

CsG

You are an obsessive sort, aren't you?

I answered your question. As usual, you refuse to accept valid answers unless they fit your narrow view.

When the Electoral College convenes, barring some miracle or Act Of God, George W. Bush will get 272 votes IIRC and be the president-elect of the United States. That makes him president. Now, if you mean "have you accepted George W. Bush as your personal president" or some right wing religious cult crap like that, I'm not playing your games. And if you want to call me by strange names feel free to do so. Just don't insult me and I won't insult you.

George W. Bush, God help us all, is president of the United States of America. Don't blame me, I didn't vote for him. <--And I predict all you red staters will be saying the same thing by the time (or if) we get through these next four years.

Amen.

Hallelujah.

[Somebody dial 911...]

No, you never answered my question. "Is George W. Bush YOUR President"? You bleated some nonesense and then said: "That would make him President of the United States". That is not answering the question of if he is YOUR President.

You see, some of you left-wing conspiracy nuts say he is not your President - I'm asking you if you think the same way they do.

CsG
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
ACT eh? How about the RNC paid group that went through Ohio, Oregon, Nevada etc registerinig voters and tearing up the Dem ones? But anyway....
Yes ACT. If you want to bring out claims of voter registration fraud - you need look no further than ACORN and it's cronies.
Now as for ACT (which you ignored and tried to divert from) Pssttt...
Exactly how do you KNOW it was fraud in the Ukraine? The exit polls!! Oh that's right!!! I forgot!! Duh, Bush says exit polls = bad in the U.S., Bush says exit polls = good in the Ukraine.
So, if you're going to use exit polls as a basis for fraud
No, that is you who is using it as a basis.
, then Bush committed fraud of epic proportions, because 41 out of 50 states had its exit polls move toward Bush, the odds of that are infintessimal. The odds of 16 of those 41 states moving BEYOND THE MARGIN OF ERROR ALL TOWARDS BUSH is 1 in 13 trillion (reported 200 trillion, but that's been revised). That's 1 in 13 TRILLION... that's 1 in 13,000,000,000,000. So, either Bush is the luckiest man in the history of the universe or he's a fraud.
Wrong, the exit polls here we shown to be inaccurate. For you to believe the exit polls were accurate here shows just how delusional you are.
Exit poll data again inaccurate
Do you have any clue how hypocritical it is to say that there was fraud in the Ukraine based solely on the exit polling and then piss on those in the U.S. saying the same thing with even MORE evidence to back up their claims? How do you explain over 99.999% of all glitches, overvotes, undervotes, etc all favoring Bush? How can you?
I understan you wanting some other countries experience to bolster your wild claims but it doesn't make them any more true than they weren't before.;)
These "irregularities" can't be explained with "You lost! Get over it!" stupidity, plain and simple.

If you truly felt that you had nothing to worry about, you wouldn't even object to a full hand recount of every state in the country. But since you and others on this forum are up-in-arms about this, then there's a large portion of yourself that acknowledges that Bush could've and would've done what we and hundreds of thousands of others are claiming.
No, I don't care if they recount but it's not going to change anything as Bush won. The only ones up in arms about this are you and the other foil-headed fools.:p
The MSM is starting to pick up on the story, the GAO and House Judiciary Committee is doing an official investigation. The Glibs (Green and Lib parties) are working TOGETHER to get Ohio recounted. Why would they possibly do that? They have no possible agenda there. The SoS of Ohio has been dragging his feet, kicking and screaming, delaying and delaying getting Ohio certified (which could've been done at least two weeks ago). Why would he do that? Eh?
Because there were problems and the fact that the greens have enough money to pay the fees. I really don't care what they find in Ohio - it doesn't change the outcome of the election. The hardcore leftists like you want to make this into more than it is because you WANT there to be fraud so you can hold onto your conspiracy theories like in 2000. Why exactly did the SoS here in Iowa drag his feet? Oh yeah - because he's a leftist hack. He tried to change the rules about provisional ballots too.
"They have no possible agenda there." - Buahahah OK - keep telling yourself whatever you need to, to help yourself sleep.
The CEO of Diebold GUARANTEED to bring Ohio's 20 electoral votes to Bush. GUARANTEED! How could he possibly make such a statement? Oh that's right, he runs the machines that count and take the votes. But that's tinfoil hate stuff. That couldn't possibly be true. Well, it is and an "apology" for that statement is on the Diebold website.

There's a video of a Diebold meeting in Texas admitting they rig the machines.
That is a lie. There was no such statement in that video.
Link

They even mention... "That the results are going to differ from the exit polls. Is everyone ok with that? Yes, that's how we did it last time."
:roll: the old Diebold conspiracy BS. I'd be ashamed of trying to post that BS as "evidence" of fraud if I were you. We've had plenty of DIEBOLD discussions here and you conspiracy whackos have not proven a thing.
Hmmmm... no reason to wonder at all eh? Puhleeeeease.

So again, where is your evidence? More conspircies? Do you even have ANY proof that votes were switched or miscalculated/whatever on PURPOSE? No, all you guys have is tinfoil hat BS - just like in 2000.

CsG


Boy, don't you think for a second that it is just such a coincidence that ALL of the "glitches" only favor Bush? Didn't think so...
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

So is he your President or not?

CsG

You are an obsessive sort, aren't you?

I answered your question. As usual, you refuse to accept valid answers unless they fit your narrow view.

When the Electoral College convenes, barring some miracle or Act Of God, George W. Bush will get 272 votes IIRC and be the president-elect of the United States. That makes him president. Now, if you mean "have you accepted George W. Bush as your personal president" or some right wing religious cult crap like that, I'm not playing your games. And if you want to call me by strange names feel free to do so. Just don't insult me and I won't insult you.

George W. Bush, God help us all, is president of the United States of America. Don't blame me, I didn't vote for him. <--And I predict all you red staters will be saying the same thing by the time (or if) we get through these next four years.

Amen.

Hallelujah.

[Somebody dial 911...]
Most excellent answer. You will also note that, as usual, Sir Cad's question is a diversion from the topic at hand. He also continues to evade responding to the considerable evidence and troubling questions raised by various posters.

But it's only a flesh wound ...

Ah yes, the resident stroker-troll Bowfinger coming in to stroke a fellow troll - how quaint.

No, the question was relevant due to the nature of his bleatings. He didn't answer so I played the game you and gaard do.

BTW - it's damn good you wouldn't accept, otherwise I'd be collecting my steak dinner down at the Iowa Steak House. Oh well - good for you - you knew Bush would win Iowa.:)

CsG
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Boy, don't you think for a second that it is just such a coincidence that ALL of the "glitches" only favor Bush? Didn't think so...

Huh? There is no proof that "ALL of the 'glitches' only favor Bush". You are ASSuming they all do - despite reality.

CsG
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Boy, don't you think for a second that it is just such a coincidence that ALL of the "glitches" only favor Bush? Didn't think so...

Huh? There is no proof that "ALL of the 'glitches' only favor Bush". You are ASSuming they all do - despite reality.

CsG

Find me one that favored Kerry.

Also, find me a state where Kerry went outside the MOE of an exit poll in his favor. If the polls were that bad, Kerry would have been equally outside MOE's in an equal (or close to) number of states. I'm breathlessly awaiting your next witty reply.
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

So is he your President or not?

CsG

You are an obsessive sort, aren't you?

I answered your question. As usual, you refuse to accept valid answers unless they fit your narrow view.

When the Electoral College convenes, barring some miracle or Act Of God, George W. Bush will get 272 votes IIRC and be the president-elect of the United States. That makes him president. Now, if you mean "have you accepted George W. Bush as your personal president" or some right wing religious cult crap like that, I'm not playing your games. And if you want to call me by strange names feel free to do so. Just don't insult me and I won't insult you.

George W. Bush, God help us all, is president of the United States of America. Don't blame me, I didn't vote for him. <--And I predict all you red staters will be saying the same thing by the time (or if) we get through these next four years.

Amen.

Hallelujah.

[Somebody dial 911...]
Most excellent answer. You will also note that, as usual, Sir Cad's question is a diversion from the topic at hand. He also continues to evade responding to the considerable evidence and troubling questions raised by various posters.

But it's only a flesh wound ...

:( I forgot or I would definitely have used that today!!!

It's only a flesh wound. do you mind if I use that as my sig, Bowfinger?


 

BBond

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

So is he your President or not?

CsG

You are an obsessive sort, aren't you?

I answered your question. As usual, you refuse to accept valid answers unless they fit your narrow view.

When the Electoral College convenes, barring some miracle or Act Of God, George W. Bush will get 272 votes IIRC and be the president-elect of the United States. That makes him president. Now, if you mean "have you accepted George W. Bush as your personal president" or some right wing religious cult crap like that, I'm not playing your games. And if you want to call me by strange names feel free to do so. Just don't insult me and I won't insult you.

George W. Bush, God help us all, is president of the United States of America. Don't blame me, I didn't vote for him. <--And I predict all you red staters will be saying the same thing by the time (or if) we get through these next four years.

Amen.

Hallelujah.

[Somebody dial 911...]

No, you never answered my question. "Is George W. Bush YOUR President"? You bleated some nonesense and then said: "That would make him President of the United States". That is not answering the question of if he is YOUR President.

You see, some of you left-wing conspiracy nuts say he is not your President - I'm asking you if you think the same way they do.

CsG

I'm ignoring you now. You're getting scary. Get hold of yourself. Take a cold shower.

It's only a flesh wound.

 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Boy, don't you think for a second that it is just such a coincidence that ALL of the "glitches" only favor Bush? Didn't think so...

Huh? There is no proof that "ALL of the 'glitches' only favor Bush". You are ASSuming they all do - despite reality.

CsG

Find me one that favored Kerry.

Also, find me a state where Kerry went outside the MOE of an exit poll in his favor. If the polls were that bad, Kerry would have been equally outside MOE's in an equal (or close to) number of states. I'm breathlessly awaiting your next witty reply.

What? How can you claim one favored someone or not? Maybe it affected the "net" outcome numbers but it is asinine for you to try to claim they ALL favored Bush.

Again, the exit polls were shown to be inaccurate so I really don't care about them.

CsG
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

So is he your President or not?

CsG

You are an obsessive sort, aren't you?

I answered your question. As usual, you refuse to accept valid answers unless they fit your narrow view.

When the Electoral College convenes, barring some miracle or Act Of God, George W. Bush will get 272 votes IIRC and be the president-elect of the United States. That makes him president. Now, if you mean "have you accepted George W. Bush as your personal president" or some right wing religious cult crap like that, I'm not playing your games. And if you want to call me by strange names feel free to do so. Just don't insult me and I won't insult you.

George W. Bush, God help us all, is president of the United States of America. Don't blame me, I didn't vote for him. <--And I predict all you red staters will be saying the same thing by the time (or if) we get through these next four years.

Amen.

Hallelujah.

[Somebody dial 911...]

No, you never answered my question. "Is George W. Bush YOUR President"? You bleated some nonesense and then said: "That would make him President of the United States". That is not answering the question of if he is YOUR President.

You see, some of you left-wing conspiracy nuts say he is not your President - I'm asking you if you think the same way they do.

CsG

I'm ignoring you now. You're getting scary. Get hold of yourself. Take a cold shower.

It's only a flesh wound.

Buahahaha - ok BOBDN whatever you say. Your refusal answers my question...

CsG
 

BBond

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What refusal? I said Bush is president. What more do you want? Are you out of meds?

 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: BBond
What refusal? I said Bush is president. What more do you want? Are you out of meds?

I didn't ask if he was the President - I asked if he was YOUR president. You have refused to answer. So telling...

CsG
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Boy, don't you think for a second that it is just such a coincidence that ALL of the "glitches" only favor Bush? Didn't think so...

Huh? There is no proof that "ALL of the 'glitches' only favor Bush". You are ASSuming they all do - despite reality.

CsG

Find me one that favored Kerry.

Also, find me a state where Kerry went outside the MOE of an exit poll in his favor. If the polls were that bad, Kerry would have been equally outside MOE's in an equal (or close to) number of states. I'm breathlessly awaiting your next witty reply.

What? How can you claim one favored someone or not? Maybe it affected the "net" outcome numbers but it is asinine for you to try to claim they ALL favored Bush.

Again, the exit polls were shown to be inaccurate so I really don't care about them.

CsG

But the same exit poll procedure in the Ukraine was fraudulent.... ok, sure. {/dismiss}

Plus, try to think here... if the exit polls were off all across the board then why didn't they break for Kerry in states that he won handily.... eh? Answer me that.
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: BBond
:( I forgot or I would definitely have used that today!!!

It's only a flesh wound. do you mind if I use that as my sig, Bowfinger?
Be my guest. :)
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: BBond
:( I forgot or I would definitely have used that today!!!

It's only a flesh wound. do you mind if I use that as my sig, Bowfinger?
Be my guest. :)

I looked up the quote at IMDB.
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CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
But the same exit poll procedure in the Ukraine was fraudulent.... ok, sure. {/dismiss}

And? Is the Ukraine the US? Maybe, just maybe the exit polls prompted people to look at the idea of fraud which just might have been obvious despite the exit polls? I really don't care what prompted the Ukraine situation and it matters little to the tinfoil conspiracies being bleated here.
To use the exit polls from this election as evidence of fraud is laughably asinine because they were shown to be inaccurate.
Sheesh - when will you guys get a clue?

CsG
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
But the same exit poll procedure in the Ukraine was fraudulent.... ok, sure. {/dismiss}

And? Is the Ukraine the US? Maybe, just maybe the exit polls prompted people to look at the idea of fraud which just might have been obvious despite the exit polls? I really don't care what prompted the Ukraine situation and it matters little to the tinfoil conspiracies being bleated here.
To use the exit polls from this election as evidence of fraud is laughably asinine because they were shown to be inaccurate.
Sheesh - when will you guys get a clue?

CsG

LOL, your transparency is amazing.
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
LOL, your transparency is amazing.

Your ignorance is astounding. :roll:

CsG

Frankly, since you haven't answered my questions, you're the ignorant one. Now ah heck off troll.
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
But the same exit poll procedure in the Ukraine was fraudulent.... ok, sure. {/dismiss}

And? Is the Ukraine the US? Maybe, just maybe the exit polls prompted people to look at the idea of fraud which just might have been obvious despite the exit polls? I really don't care what prompted the Ukraine situation and it matters little to the tinfoil conspiracies being bleated here.
To use the exit polls from this election as evidence of fraud is laughably asinine because they were shown to be inaccurate.
Sheesh - when will you guys get a clue?

CsG

LOL, your transparency is amazing.

He's in a state of cognitive dissidence -- can't explain to himself how Bush could use the irregularities in the Ukraine to call for a new election while he ignores the irregularities here.

 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: BBond
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
But the same exit poll procedure in the Ukraine was fraudulent.... ok, sure. {/dismiss}

And? Is the Ukraine the US? Maybe, just maybe the exit polls prompted people to look at the idea of fraud which just might have been obvious despite the exit polls? I really don't care what prompted the Ukraine situation and it matters little to the tinfoil conspiracies being bleated here.
To use the exit polls from this election as evidence of fraud is laughably asinine because they were shown to be inaccurate.
Sheesh - when will you guys get a clue?

CsG

LOL, your transparency is amazing.

He's in a state of cognitive dissidence -- can't explain to himself how Bush could use the irregularities in the Ukraine to call for a new election while he ignores the irregularities here.

It's a disease. There's nothing Bush and Co. could do that would make them stop defending him. They could kill their pets (edited for less drama) and they'd thank them. It's quite saddening really.
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: BBond
What refusal? I said Bush is president. What more do you want? Are you out of meds?

I didn't ask if he was the President - I asked if he was YOUR president. You have refused to answer. So telling...

CsG
So telling? In what way? Only the most brainwashed Bush worshipper would even ask the question. Do you accept GWBush as your personal Lord and Savior ... err ... I mean President? Who cares? He's a man, not a deity. Wake up and smell the horse excrement you're shovelling.

He's also not a personal possession, "my" President, at least to ordinary citizens. I imagine Ken Lay considers Bush to be his personal President, but Ken bought and paid for him, so that's probably sensible. There are a few thousand others that get to share Bush with Ken. Here's a hint, however: wanna-be's like you will never hold those reins, no matter how much you suck up to the Republican elite. You're an interchangable grunt in their deception machine.
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: BBond
What refusal? I said Bush is president. What more do you want? Are you out of meds?

I didn't ask if he was the President - I asked if he was YOUR president. You have refused to answer. So telling...

CsG
So telling? In what way? Only the most brainwashed Bush worshipper would even ask the question. Do you accept GWBush as your personal Lord and Savior ... err ... I mean President? Who cares? He's a man, not a deity. Wake up and smell the horse excrement you're shovelling.

He's also not a personal possession, "my" President, at least to ordinary citizens. I imagine Ken Lay considers Bush to be his personal President, but Ken bought and paid for him, so that's probably sensible. There are a few thousand others that get to share Bush with Ken. Here's a hint, however: wanna-be's like you will never hold those reins, no matter how much you suck up to the Republican elite. You're an interchangable grunt in their deception machine.

Don't forget expendable as well.

 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: BBond
He's in a state of cognitive dissidence -- can't explain to himself how Bush could use the irregularities in the Ukraine to call for a new election while he ignores the irregularities here.

No, no one is ignoring the "irregularities" - but for you to say they = fraud goes too far. You have offered no proof - just more conspiracy BS.

CsG
 

Darkhawk28

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: BBond
He's in a state of cognitive dissidence -- can't explain to himself how Bush could use the irregularities in the Ukraine to call for a new election while he ignores the irregularities here.

No, no one is ignoring the "irregularities" - but for you to say they = fraud goes too far. You have offered no proof - just more conspiracy BS.

CsG

Keep in mind that Scott Peterson got convicted of MURDER with 1/1000000 the evidence that's been brought forth.