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CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: BBond
What refusal? I said Bush is president. What more do you want? Are you out of meds?

I didn't ask if he was the President - I asked if he was YOUR president. You have refused to answer. So telling...

CsG
So telling? In what way? Only the most brainwashed Bush worshipper would even ask the question. Do you accept GWBush as your personal Lord and Savior ... err ... I mean President? Who cares? He's a man, not a deity. Wake up and smell the horse excrement you're shovelling.

He's also not a personal possession, "my" President, at least to ordinary citizens. I imagine Ken Lay considers Bush to be his personal President, but Ken bought and paid for him, so that's probably sensible. There are a few thousand others that get to share Bush with Ken. Here's a hint, however: wanna-be's like you will never hold those reins, no matter how much you suck up to the Republican elite. You're an interchangable grunt in their deception machine.

It's telling because the radical left won't say he is their President. BODBN was that way - Bbond is the same way(and could even be a returned BOBDN as BOBDN was caught with a new acct IIRC)
No:p That's where you radical leftists go wrong. You keep telling yourself that we worship Bush - we don't. We may support him as a Politician and our President but go ahead and keep telling yourself whatever you wish if it keeps your sheets dry at night.

Ah yes, Bowfinger trying to tell himself that people voted for Bush because they wanted to suck up to the Elite :p Just more BS from the left to sooth their wounds. But hey, it's ok - stay that way. I'm sure it'll help you next time around. You just need more "hate"....yeah...that's the ticket. :roll:

CsG
 

BBond

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: BBond
What refusal? I said Bush is president. What more do you want? Are you out of meds?

I didn't ask if he was the President - I asked if he was YOUR president. You have refused to answer. So telling...

CsG

If there is a mental health professional here I will sign the necessary papers to have this man committed. ^^^

I am an American by birth. George W. Bush is probably going to win the electoral college because 60 million or so Americans (if you can believe that) were stupid enough to vote for the thick tongued imbecile, or, more likely in my personal opinion, his people were better at stealing an election than their opponents. Unless I renounce my citizenship, and I have NO intention of doing that just because 60 million Americans' are indeed that stupid, yes, that would make George W. Bush my president. But I didn't vote for him and I take no responsibility for the next four years. And I refuse to be initiated into some sicko cult where people like you accept George W. Bush as their personal saviour and acknowledge him as God's chosen tool on Earth.

Now please, stop being a complete and total bore in full view of everyone on this forum. If you have issues please seek the advice of a mental health professional. What you are doing just isn't healthy. Flesh wound or not.
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Ah yes, the resident stroker-troll Bowfinger coming in to stroke a fellow troll - how quaint.

No, the question was relevant due to the nature of his bleatings. He didn't answer so I played the game you and gaard do.

BTW - it's damn good you wouldn't accept, otherwise I'd be collecting my steak dinner down at the Iowa Steak House. Oh well - good for you - you knew Bush would win Iowa.:)

CsG
More evasions and dishonesty from one of our (self-proclaimed) highly moral religious righties. I offered you a free dinner, but you turned it down because of your ego. Accepting my offer would have implicitly demonstrated you were lying about my motives. Can't have that, you're never, ever, ever wrong about anything. Guess you'll have to keep eating crow instead.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Ah yes, the resident stroker-troll Bowfinger coming in to stroke a fellow troll - how quaint.

No, the question was relevant due to the nature of his bleatings. He didn't answer so I played the game you and gaard do.

BTW - it's damn good you wouldn't accept, otherwise I'd be collecting my steak dinner down at the Iowa Steak House. Oh well - good for you - you knew Bush would win Iowa.:)

CsG
More evasions and dishonesty from one of our (self-proclaimed) highly moral religious righties. I offered you a free dinner, but you turned it down because of your ego. Accepting my offer would have implicitly demonstrated you were lying about my motives. Can't have that, you're never, ever, ever wrong about anything. Guess you'll have to keep eating crow instead.

:roll: Wrong, I turned it down because of your ego. You refused to accept the freindly(it was at the time of origination) bet. When I asked you about it later- you still didn't accept it. Then later when I mentioned the fact that you didn't accept - you got all pissy and made a big deal about a free dinner - which wasn't the point. Yes, dishonesty indeed.:roll: Why exactly would you refuse the bet yet offer a dinner? Because you didn't want to "lose"(especially to me;) ) and offering it up(after the fact) was your cover.
But hey, atleast you didn't "lose" the bet :roll:

CsG
 

BBond

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The words obsessive compulsive with paranoid delusions of grandeur come to mind...

 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
So telling? In what way? Only the most brainwashed Bush worshipper would even ask the question. Do you accept GWBush as your personal Lord and Savior ... err ... I mean President? Who cares? He's a man, not a deity. Wake up and smell the horse excrement you're shovelling.

He's also not a personal possession, "my" President, at least to ordinary citizens. I imagine Ken Lay considers Bush to be his personal President, but Ken bought and paid for him, so that's probably sensible. There are a few thousand others that get to share Bush with Ken. Here's a hint, however: wanna-be's like you will never hold those reins, no matter how much you suck up to the Republican elite. You're an interchangable grunt in their deception machine.
It's telling because the radical left won't say he is their President. BODBN was that way - Bbond is the same way(and could even be a returned BOBDN as BOBDN was caught with a new acct IIRC)
No:p That's where you radical leftists go wrong. You keep telling yourself that we worship Bush - we don't. We may support him as a Politician and our President but go ahead and keep telling yourself whatever you wish if it keeps your sheets dry at night.

Ah yes, Bowfinger trying to tell himself that people voted for Bush because they wanted to suck up to the Elite :p Just more BS from the left to sooth their wounds. But hey, it's ok - stay that way. I'm sure it'll help you next time around. You just need more "hate"....yeah...that's the ticket. :roll:

CsG
No, Sir Cad. That's where you Bush disciples go wrong. You keep telling yourself that you don't worship Bush, but you do. You truly do. You excuse every lie, rationalize every screw-up, mindlessly parrot every bit of propaganda out of the Bush administration, constantly twisting your very perception of reality to avoid acknowledging your emperor has no clothes. It is exactly like a religion, your Bush-god is infallible, his acts and words divine.

Re. why people voted for Bush, your reading comprehension difficulties strike again. I didn't say everyone voted for Bush to suck up to the Elite, just his flock of flaming fluffers. A lot of people only voted for him because he's in the anti-abortion party, or 'cuz their mamas and daddies were'n Republicans. A lot of people voted for Bush because they bought his campaign of lies smearing Kerry as the devil. A lot voted for Bush because they are ignorant of what he's done and what he stands for.


edit: typo
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
[ rambling story, where Sir Cad continues to evade my up-front explanation in favor of his own deluded, face-saving lies, deleted ]
Enjoy your crow Cad.
 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
So telling? In what way? Only the most brainwashed Bush worshipper would even ask the question. Do you accept GWBush as your personal Lord and Savior ... err ... I mean President? Who cares? He's a man, not a deity. Wake up and smell the horse excrement you're shovelling.

He's also not a personal possession, "my" President, at least to ordinary citizens. I imagine Ken Lay considers Bush to be his personal President, but Ken bought and paid for him, so that's probably sensible. There are a few thousand others that get to share Bush with Ken. Here's a hint, however: wanna-be's like you will never hold those reins, no matter how much you suck up to the Republican elite. You're an interchangable grunt in their deception machine.
It's telling because the radical left won't say he is their President. BODBN was that way - Bbond is the same way(and could even be a returned BOBDN as BOBDN was caught with a new acct IIRC)
No:p That's where you radical leftists go wrong. You keep telling yourself that we worship Bush - we don't. We may support him as a Politician and our President but go ahead and keep telling yourself whatever you wish if it keeps your sheets dry at night.

Ah yes, Bowfinger trying to tell himself that people voted for Bush because they wanted to suck up to the Elite :p Just more BS from the left to sooth their wounds. But hey, it's ok - stay that way. I'm sure it'll help you next time around. You just need more "hate"....yeah...that's the ticket. :roll:

CsG
No, Sir Cad. That's where you Bush disciples go wrong. You keep telling yourself that you don't worship Bush, but you do. You truly do. You excuse every lie, rationalize every screw-up, mindlessly parrot every bit of propaganda out of the Bush administration, constantly twisting your very perception of reality to avoid acknowledging your emporer has no clothes. It is exactly like a religion, your Bush-god is infallible, his acts and words divine.

Re. why people voted for Bush, your reading comprehension difficulties strike again. I didn't say everyone voted for Bush to suck up to the Elite, just his flock of flaming fluffers. A lot of people only voted for him because he's in the anti-abortion party, or 'cuz their mamas and daddies were'n Republicans. A lot of people voted for Bush because they bought his campaign of lies smearing Kerry as the devil. A lot voted for Bush because they are ignorant of what he's done and what he stands for.

Tell me some more you KNOW about me Bowfinger? What else do you know about why I support people, ideas, and such? I'd really like you to inform me of these things since you know so much.

...does your crystal ball say anything else? Lotto numbers? :roll:

CsG
 

Bowfinger

Lifer
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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Tell me some more you KNOW about me Bowfinger? What else do you know about why I support people, ideas, and such? I'd really like you to inform me of these things since you know so much.

...does your crystal ball say anything else? Lotto numbers? :roll:

CsG
1. Pot, meet kettle.

2. Ignore the message, attack the messenger. Typical.

 

CADsortaGUY

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Tell me some more you KNOW about me Bowfinger? What else do you know about why I support people, ideas, and such? I'd really like you to inform me of these things since you know so much.

...does your crystal ball say anything else? Lotto numbers? :roll:

CsG
1. Pot, meet kettle.

2. Ignore the message, attack the messenger. Typical.
1. Uh OK Bow - you know all so you win. :roll:
2. Pot, meet kettle.

CsG
 

burnedout

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Originally posted by: BBond

He's in a state of cognitive dissidence

[snip]
(arrogantly sarcastic British accent; possibly from the Cambridge area)

I say, old chap. Haven't we discussed this treacherously incompetent employment of either the Oxford or American versions of the English language before?

(/arrogantly sarcastic British accent; possibly from the Cambridge area)

Main Entry: dis·so·nant
Pronunciation: -n&nt
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle French or Latin; Middle French, from Latin dissonant-, dissonans, present participle of dissonare to be discordant, from dis- + sonare to sound -- more at SOUND
Date: 15th century
1 : marked by dissonance : DISCORDANT
2 : INCONGRUOUS
3 : harmonically unresolved
- dis·so·nant·ly adverb
 

BBond

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Recount in Ohio A Sure Thing

Well, old sod, she is indeed functioning.

Now, if you would be so kind, please explain what it has to do with the OP.

 

BBond

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I see, it's mass hysteria.

Perhaps the side show is a diversion from the real topic since there is no credible explanation for the delay in counting the votes in Ohio, the lack of a paper trail for 30% of the votes nationwide, or the irregularities, which in the Ukraine caused the president-elect of the USA to call for a new election, but here in the USA were used as proof of his 'win'.

Back to the OP.

Slow-Rolling Democracy in Ohio

By Robert Parry
December 4, 2004

George W. Bush?s political allies appear to be slow-rolling a requested recount in Ohio, leaving so little time that even if widespread voting fraud is discovered, the finding will come too late to derail Bush?s second term.

Though balloting occurred on Nov. 2, more than a month ago, Ohio?s Republican Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell still hasn?t certified an official vote, a move now expected on Monday, Dec. 6. Since Blackwell also has battled requests from third-party candidates for an expedited recount, a review of Ohio?s vote now won?t begin until Dec. 13, at the earliest, according to Blackwell?s office. [See Boston Globe, Dec. 1, 2004]

But the Dec. 13 date is the same day the electors of the Electoral College meet to formally select the President of the United States. So even if the recount uncovers enough fraud to reveal John Kerry as the rightful winner in Ohio, it would be too late to change that outcome.

Meanwhile, as Ohio?s official foot-dragging has gone on, Bush?s election-night lead has continued to shrink with the counting of overseas and provisional ballots. The Associated Press reported on Dec. 3 that its vote tally of Ohio?s 88 counties showed Kerry narrowing Bush?s lead to 119,000 votes from about 136,000 votes, leaving Bush with a 2 percent lead.

But Kerry also might stand to gain a substantial number of votes from a recount that would examine ballots thrown out by antiquated punch-card voting machines. They are used mostly in poor areas, especially African-American neighborhoods that are Democratic strongholds. Other voters, believing that Ohio?s electronic systems were susceptible to vote rigging, have sought audits to check for tampering.

Instead of embracing these examinations to resolve voter doubts, however, Secretary of State Blackwell and other Bush allies in Ohio have resisted the demands. Now, the clock is running out for any meaningful review. [Citizens demanding a full recount in Ohio scheduled a rally for Dec. 4 in the capital of Columbus Other protests are being organized in the days leading up to the Electoral College meetings on Dec. 13.]

Florida Echoes

In some ways, the United States is witnessing a repeat of Election 2000 where Bush first frustrated Al Gore?s demands for recounts in Florida and then had five Republicans on the U.S. Supreme Court block a recount ordered by the state Supreme Court. Finally, the five Republican justices in Washington required that a reorganized Florida recount be conducted in two hours, a clearly impossible task that handed the presidency to George W. Bush.

Placing national unity as a priority over democracy, the U.S. news media stepped in after Election 2000 to sweep away any lingering doubts about Bush?s legitimacy. The unity message was that the United States needed to put the contentious election in the past, even though Bush was the first popular-vote loser in more than a century to move into the White House.

This protection of Bush?s fragile legitimacy gained even greater momentum after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks. The ?united-we-stand? sentiment put the New York Times and other leading news organizations in a particular quandary in November 2001 when they completed an unofficial recount of Florida?s votes.

The recount discovered that if all legally cast votes had been counted, Al Gore would have won Florida regardless of what standard of ?chad? was used. In other words, Gore was the rightfully elected President of the United States, not Bush.

To avert the predictable conservative outrage over the recount findings, the major national news outlets simply buried the ?Gore-won? lead. Instead, they topped their stories with a bogus analysis that a recount would have left Bush as the rightful winner.

The analysis assumed, falsely, that so-called ?overvotes,? where voters checked a candidate and wrote in the name, would not have been included in the recount. But the news organizations were erroneous in this assumption because the judge handling the Florida recount had ordered those votes tallied and almost certainly would have added them to the state?s total, since they were clearly legal under Florida law. [See Consortiumnews.com?s ?So Bush Did Steal the White House.?]

Now, with Team Bush running out the clock in Ohio, one has to wonder what contortions the mainstream news media would put itself through if a belated recount ? after Bush?s election is formalized ? shows that Kerry should have won Ohio and thus the White House.

 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: BBond
What refusal? I said Bush is president. What more do you want? Are you out of meds?
I didn't ask if he was the President - I asked if he was YOUR president. You have refused to answer. So telling...

CsG
So telling? In what way? Only the most brainwashed Bush worshipper would even ask the question. Do you accept GWBush as your personal Lord and Savior ... err ... I mean President? Who cares? He's a man, not a deity. Wake up and smell the horse excrement you're shovelling.

He's also not a personal possession, "my" President, at least to ordinary citizens. I imagine Ken Lay considers Bush to be his personal President, but Ken bought and paid for him, so that's probably sensible. There are a few thousand others that get to share Bush with Ken. Here's a hint, however: wanna-be's like you will never hold those reins, no matter how much you suck up to the Republican elite. You're an interchangable grunt in their deception machine.
Don't forget expendable as well.
Absolutely, great point. The pawns are totally expendable.

 

dahunan

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Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Originally posted by: BBond
What refusal? I said Bush is president. What more do you want? Are you out of meds?

I didn't ask if he was the President - I asked if he was YOUR president. You have refused to answer. So telling...

CsG
So telling? In what way? Only the most brainwashed Bush worshipper would even ask the question. Do you accept GWBush as your personal Lord and Savior ... err ... I mean President? Who cares? He's a man, not a deity. Wake up and smell the horse excrement you're shovelling.

He's also not a personal possession, "my" President, at least to ordinary citizens. I imagine Ken Lay considers Bush to be his personal President, but Ken bought and paid for him, so that's probably sensible. There are a few thousand others that get to share Bush with Ken. Here's a hint, however: wanna-be's like you will never hold those reins, no matter how much you suck up to the Republican elite. You're an interchangable grunt in their deception machine.

It's telling because the radical left won't say he is their President. BODBN was that way - Bbond is the same way(and could even be a returned BOBDN as BOBDN was caught with a new acct IIRC)
No:p

Do people have to be radicals if they will not accept the Bible Thumping WWWar President

 

BBond

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Texas to Florida: White House-linked clandestine operation paid for "vote switching" software

By Wayne Madsen
Online Journal Contributing Writer

December 6, 2004?The manipulation of computer voting machines in the recent presidential election and the funding of programmers who were involved in the operation are tied to an intricate web of shady off-shore financial trusts and companies, shady espionage operatives, Republican Party politicians close to the Bush family, and National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) contract vehicles.

An exhaustive investigation has turned up a link between current Florida Republican Representative Tom Feeney, a customized Windows-based program to suppress Democratic votes on touch screen voting machines, a Florida computer services company with whom Feeney worked as a general counsel and registered lobbyist while he was Speaker of the Florida House of Representatives, and top level officials of the Bush administration.

According to a notarized affidavit signed by Clint Curtis, while he was employed by the NASA Kennedy Space Center contractor, Yang Enterprises, Inc., during 2000, Feeney solicited him to write a program to "control the vote." At the time, Curtis was of the opinion that the program was to be used for preventing fraud in the in the 2002 election in Palm Beach County, Florida. His mind was changed, however, when the true intentions of Feeney became clear: the computer program was going to be used to suppress the Democratic vote in counties with large Democratic registrations.

According to Curtis, Feeney and other top brass at Yang Enterprises, a company located in a three-story building in Oviedo, Florida, wanted the prototype written in Visual Basic 5 (VB.5) in Microsoft Windows and the end-product designed to be portable across different Unix-based vote tabulation systems and to be "undetectable" to voters and election supervisors.

Yang, an engineering and computer services company subcontracted to NASA prime contractors like Lockheed Martin, was founded in 1986 by Dr. Tyng-Lin (Tim) Yang. Granted minority-owned "Section 8A" and woman-owned preferential status by the U.S. government, Yang's clients also include the Florida Department of Transportation (DOT). Yang's President, Li-Woan (Lee) Yang, is Tim Yang's wife. Feeney was the registered agent for another Yang company, Y & H Greens, Inc., a company that was dissolved in 1988 and operated from the Yangs' residence on Merritt Island. The Yangs also serve as co-trustees for an entity called Yang of Merritt Island, Ltd., founded on January 31, 2000, and also run from their residence.

In the autumn of 1999, Curtis, who served as a sort of technology adviser for Yang, first became aware of Feeney's interest in election rigging. Curtis said at one meeting, Feeney "bragged that he could reduce the minority vote and deliver the election to 'George.'" At the same meeting, according to Curtis, Feeney said he had "implemented a list that would eliminate thousands of voters that would vote for Democratic candidates" and that "a proper placement of police patrols could further reduce the black vote by as much as 25 percent."

Feeney's desire to manipulate the vote would be manifested in his home base of Volusia County in the 2000 presidential election. According to The Washington Post, at 10 p.m. on election night, Al Gore was leading Bush in Volusia County by 83,000 to 62,000 votes. One-half hour later, Gore's vote total had been reduced by 16,000 to 67,000 and an obscure Socialist candidate saw a sudden surge to 10,000 votes in a precinct with only 600 voters. The information on the Volusia optical scanner voting anomalies came from a leaked internal Diebold memorandum. In the end, Bush won Florida and the White House by a mere 537 votes in the most controversial U.S. presidential election in history.

Feeney had long been a voice in Florida GOP politics. He was gubernatorial candidate Jeb Bush's running mate in 1994, a race in which Democratic incumbent Lawton Chiles defeated Bush. Chiles once referred to Feeney as "the David Duke of Florida politics."

In 2002, Feeney asked Curtis if he could develop a touch screen voting machine "flip flop" program. According to Curtis, Feeney asked him, "Can you write a program to flip votes around on touch screen machines?" Curtis said Feeney wanted the program to merely reduce votes in heavily Democratic areas and flip Republican votes to 51 percent and keep Democrat votes to 49 percent. Curtis added that Feeney "did not want to win by a lot." In return, Curtis said Feeney offered him "big jobs." Curtis's main tasks at Yang were to develop the Florida DOT's Electronic Document Management System. He also worked on the Project Pipeline Information System at another one of Yang's major clients, Exxon Mobil's Coral Gables facility.

Curtis said he developed the voting program and eventually handed off his prototype to Feeney. The program was also reviewed by Curtis's senior coder, Hai Lin (Henry) Nee, who according to Florida Department of Transportation sources, was an illegal alien working in the United States. According Curtis, not only did Nee review the vote switching program code but he constantly downloaded sensitive data to his computer from NASA's computers. Nee, according to Curtis, moonlighted at an Orlando company called Azure Systems, described by The Orlando Sentinel as a "three person engineering firm" and one of a number of companies linked to Ting Ih-Hsu, a former Lockheed Martin employee. At the same time Nee was reviewing Yang's vote switching program, he was also being investigated by U.S. federal investigators for illegally shipping Hellfire missile parts to China. Oddly, although U.S. law enforcement agents had put Nee and his associates under surveillance for illegal exports of technology to China in 1999, he and his colleagues were not arrested until March of this year.

Curtis claimed that Yang's corporate bosses stressed that the company had "unlimited" sources of money that came "mostly" from China. According to Florida DOT employees, House Speaker Feeney pressured their agency to give money to Yang for nonexistent software. The sources also revealed that Feeney was aware that Yang was employing a number of illegal aliens on State of Florida and federal contracts.

Feeney's ties to Yang paralleled similar close ties to NASA. Feeney's wife Ellen has worked as an engineer for NASA's Kennedy Space Center since 1985. Jeb Bush ensured that Florida's 24th Congressional District was redrawn so that Feeney would have an easy time in his 2002 race against Democratic opponent Harry Jacobs. According to Florida state officials, who spoke on the condition anonymity, 500 Yang employees at the Kennedy Space Center were paid for their time when they agreed to picket against Jacobs. In addition, NASA administrator Sean O'Keefe, according to the same sources, lobbied extensively for Feeney within NASA. In addition, O'Keefe and his close friend and former Pentagon boss, Vice President Dick Cheney, made campaign appearances for Feeney at the Kennedy Space Center.

Feeney's close ties to Jeb Bush and Cheney paid off. In 2002, he was elected to the U.S. House of Representatives in a race that also saw the re-election of Jeb Bush. Early in "vote switch's" development stages, Feeney had told Curtis that he wanted the program "made to control Palm Beach" in 2002. Palm Beach County's Election Supervisor was still the controversial Theresa LePore, nicknamed "Madam Butterfly," who designed the infamous "butterfly ballots" in the 2000 election. LePore had once been an employee of Saudi multi-billionaire Adnan Khashoggi, a Saudi link that is tied to a huge multi-billion tranche of money distributed throughout off-shore trusts, accounts, and corporations with interlocking directorships that are controlled by Bush interests in Houston. It was this Bush-controlled money cache, originating in the East, and known in Houston by the name "Five Star" and other cryptonyms that was, according to U.S. intelligence insiders, used to fund the rigging of the 2004 election.

When he arrived in Congress, Feeney was given a seat on the House Science and Technology Committee, which oversees NASA's operations. Feeney was also appointed to the important House Finance and Judiciary Committees. He was also given a clean bill of ethical health by Florida's Ethics Commission, a panel that has a Republican majority.

After Feeney's ascension to Congress, Yang's questionable billing activities with its Florida DOT contract came to the attention of Ray C. Lemme, a seasoned senior investigator with the Florida DOT Inspector General's Office and a combat veteran of the Vietnam War. Lemme had a lot of evidence to suspect that Yang was overbilling the DOT for "millions." After discovering Yang's dirty laundry, Curtis went to work for the DOT. Mavis Georgalis, the DOT's contracting officer for the Yang contract, was also aware of improprieties with the contract. As a result of pressure from the Florida State House, both Curtis and Georgalis were eventually fired by the DOT because of their complaints about the Yang contract. Someone was obviously trying to send Curtis a message when, on August 14, 2002, he discovered that someone poisoned his pet Pomeranian dog, Emily. Lemme was forced to stop his official investigation of Yang for similar reasons. However, he decided to continue an "unofficial" investigation of Yang and its practices on the side. It was a fateful decision.

According to DOT employees familiar with the Yang case, Lemme was aware that it was Jeb Bush who personally shut down his investigation of Yang. Lemme also leaked details concerning his investigation to the Daytona Beach News Journal. The investigator had previously requested a full audit of the Yang contract with the DOT, a request that was denied. Lemme also became aware of something else outside the framework of the DOT contract?that Yang had been involved in producing a prototype vote switching program for use with touch screen voting machines and that Tom Feeney was in on the scam. The last time Clint Curtis spoke to Lemme, he remembers the silver haired investigator excited about where his case was leading. Lemme told Curtis that the cover up of Yang was coming from "as high up as I could imagine" and that he had "proof" that was "shocking."

On Sunday, June 29, 2003, evidence indicates that Lemme drove from Tallahassee to Valdosta, Georgia, the home of Moody Air Force Base. A motel receipt indicated that Lemme checked in at the Knight's Inn off Interstate 75 at 6:49 p.m. Lemme's wife said that her husband left home for work on Monday, June 30, at 5:15 a.m., an hour earlier than usual. According to a Leon County Sheriff's report, Lemme's wife said she received a voice message after she returned home at 6:45 p.m. on Monday. The message was from her husband's supervisor, Bob Clift, who informed her that earlier in the day, at 6:15 a.m., Lemme called into work, left a message, and said he would not be coming to work that day. Clift said he was checking up on Ray Lemme. Mrs. Lemme called Clift and told him that her husband was not at home. Mrs. Lemme told police that her husband was working on a "big case." Mrs. Lemme filed a missing person report with the Leon County, Sheriff's Office. Clift later determined that Ray Lemme made his earlier call to work at 6:15 a.m., one hour after he supposedly left his home for work, from a pay phone at the junction of Interstate 10 and Highway 1 in Jefferson County, Florida. Shortly after 11:00 a.m. on Tuesday, July 1, the maid assigned to clean Lemme's room?132?received no answer when she knocked. The door was locked. There was no response when the maid called the room's telephone. The hotel manager then called the police.

The following is from the Valdosta Police Detective Report filed by Detective Craig Spencer and dated July 1, 2003: "On July 1, 2003 at approximately 1330 hours, I received a page advising me to be en route to Knights Inn at 2110 West Hill Avenue in reference to an unattended death." When Spencer and other police officers and detectives arrived at the motel, the manager told them that the occupant of Room 132, Ray Lemme, was to have checked out by 11a.m. The officers yelled through the slightly ajar door but received no answer and they discovered the upper swing latch was locked. The officers used a special tool provided by the motel to open the swing latch lock. Spencer said that one of the officers entered the room and found a suicide note and then proceeded to the bathroom where Lemme was found dead in the bathtub. Police also discovered that the inside of Lemmes's left elbow?the cubital tunnel?was slashed. There were spurts of blood on the wall but no blood found on the floor. A belt possibly used as a tourniquet and a double- edged straight razor blade were found on the side of the tub. A bath towel was unfolded and neatly placed on the floor next to the tub.

Later on July 1, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation Crime Laboratory in Moultrie informed the Valdosta Police that based on the "suicide" details, no autopsy would be performed on Lemme. Unlike Florida, Georgia does not perform mandatory autopsies. A doctor, with 25 years' clinical experience, who was interviewed for this story claimed that the circumstances of Lemme's death appeared to him to be a classic "mob hit." If the Leon County Sheriff missing person report is to be believed, it is clear that someone other than Lemme checked into the Valdosta motel on Sunday evening using his name. Clearly, the Leon County Sheriff's report contains a number of details that directly conflict with facts found in the Valdosta Police report. In addition, the Lowndes County, Georgia, Coroner's report fails to indicate an estimated time of death based on a full medical examination?it surmised that the time of death was the same time as indicated on the suicide note: 8:10 a.m. on July 1.

An empty manila folder and a blank legal pad notebook were found on the hotel room's desk along with an undated and unsigned suicide note written on lined paper, which lacked any identifiable fingerprints, from Lemme's day planner. The note merely contained the time 8:10 a.m. with the following notation: "I love my family (family underlined once) with all my heart. I am sorry. I am depressed and in pain. Mary Ann (Lemme's wife), I love you." ("I love you" underlined twice). It was certainly not indicative of a person who was ecstatic that he was finally going to nail a long investigation that involved vote rigging, overbilling, and fraud abetted by the very top political leadership in Tallahassee. Interestingly, the last number on Lemme's pager (an 850 960-XXXX) ended with the number "911." It is also interesting that Lemme's watch, when discovered by the police, was stopped at 12:34 p.m. on June 30?a possible indication that Lemme was trying to convey the time of a possible in extremis situation. Also, Lemme's Florida driver's license was in his room while his wallet was in the glove box of his car, which was parked in front of the room. Two motel receipts were found in Lemme's room by the police. One was a check-in receipt dated June 29 and timed at 6:44 p.m. The other was a receipt, without a notation of check-in or check-out, dated June 30 and timed at 6:54 a.m. A witness told police that Lemme's car was parked in front of his room on the afternoon of June 30.

Sergeant Eugene Bell of the Valdosta Police Department interviewed a 39-year old female guest who was staying in Room 236 over the weekend. She and her daughter noticed three men standing in the parking lot across from Lemme's room at 8 a.m. on the morning of July 1. The behavior of the men made the guest suspicious enough that the woman initially believed the men were engaged in a drug deal. According to the police report, the camera used to photograph the crime scene was later discovered to have a defect in the flash memory card. The defect resulted in no usable photographs being submitted with the official police report.

Lemme was no stranger to Florida politics. His wife, Mary Ann, worked as a secretary for Martha Walters Barnett, a partner with the politically-connected Holland & Knight law firm in Tallahassee, where she specializes in campaign finance and election law and government contracts. Another Holland & Knight partner, Ginny Myrick, was appointed by Jeb Bush as the vice chair of the Florida Community Trust, a state land acquisition and grant program. Although officially a bipartisan law firm, even Democrats working for Holland & Knight largely support Jeb Bush. In addition, Bill McBride, Bush's Democratic opponent in the 2002 gubernatorial race and a Holland & Knight partner who had defeated former Attorney General Janet Reno in the Democratic primary amid reports of voting irregularities from around the state, commented that his race against Bush "may be the Democrats' race to lose."

The NASA connection to the money trail that is linked to the development of the vote switching program is of particular note. When the first sketchy details of the vote switching operation emerged, a Houston-controlled money tranche associated with an offshore entity called Five Star Trust, registered in the Isle of Man, was reported by high-level intelligence sources familiar with past Bush-related covert activities to be behind the operation. Five Star has been connected by these informed sources to have originated in 1983, when deposed Philippine dictator Ferdinand Marcos, Saudi billionaire Adnan Khashoggi, and then-Vice President George H. W. Bush were allegedly looking for a repository for an estimated $3 billion in looted Philippine gold and gems. Since that time, Five Star's accounts are said to funnel more funds from Saudi Arabia as well as cash reserves hidden away in offshore artificial shells by Enron before it collapsed. What is not yet certain is whether Sean O'Keefe, the NASA administrator and close Cheney friend who supported Feeney's and Yang's activities in Florida, facilitated the transfer of Five Star funds from Houston to Cape Canaveral using contract vehicles of both the Johnson and Kennedy Space Centers to disburse the funds to the principal players. A NASA insider in Texas said he has long suspected large amounts of money have been moved into the United States and that these transfers involved NASA and Saudi and Chinese money sources.

There is additional information that the election rigging principals connected to the State of Florida and Jeb Bush may have also tried to use contractors tied closely to state contracts to parlay the touch screen software into Maine, which has proportional distribution of its electoral votes by congressional district, and Ohio, the key state in 2004. The information was provided by insiders in Tallahassee who are close to offices involved in procurement by the state government.

Sources close to U.S. intelligence pointed to a $29.6 million check supposedly issued on October 22, 2004, by Laurentian Bank in Montreal, Canada, that was rumored by intelligence circles to have been used to pay for the technicians who developed the software to rig the election. The computer voting machine technicians and maintenance personnel involved with the rigging were reported to have included Russians, Mexicans, and Brazilians.

According to Laurentian Bank, the check, a U.S. dollar "money order," is a bogus instrument tied to Nigerian scamming activities. Laurentian Bank said that a U.S. dollar money order would never be for amounts over $1,000 and any higher amount would be in the form of a bank draft that would require the signature of two senior bank officers. In addition, the bank would never use a cell phone number (514-588-5569) on their checks. The payer on the "check," Equity Financial Trust of Toronto, is said by the Canadian Fraud Office to be involved with Nigerian scammers. In fact, the Canadian Office of the Superintendent of Financial Institutions reports that Equity Financial Trust, Toronto, Ontario "may be violating provisions of the Bank Act (Canada) or other Canadian financial institution regulations" and "may also be conducting unauthorized banking transactions in the United States."

The payee on the "check," Five Star Investments, Ltd., once registered on the Isle of Man, is a Lexington, Kentucky-based entity tied to Marion "J.R." Horn, convicted in 2002 by Judge Joseph M. Hood of the U.S. District Court for Eastern Kentucky for wire fraud. He was also ordered to serve time in Buckner Federal Penitentiary, North Carolina for a "mental study." He eventually served an unusually light 18-month sentence while on parole for another fraud case. When interviewed by a researcher for this article, Horn expressed surprise that the check his lawyer in Nassau was waiting to clear a bank in New York, was, in fact, a fake. According to CIA documents obtained from the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, Five Star Trust may have, in fact, had a past relationship with Horn. According to Offshorebusiness.com, Five Star Trust has been linked with an "illegal" bank.

The connection of Enron money and Nigerian scammers to Five Star is intriguing because of a September 23, 2004, Houston Chronicle report that said Enron was involved in an off-the-books deal to invest in Nigerian power generation barges. Tina Trinkle, a former Merrill Lynch banker, said she was asked not to do the normal background checks for such a business deal.

A former Justice Department prosecutor who investigated the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) said that the bogus check and those responsible for it are typical "feints" used to mask actual clandestine money movements from law enforcement investigators. In addition, the former prosecutor said the purported check lacked the necessary SWIFT codes in the numbers found at the bottom of the check to facilitate the movement of money through international financial networks. He said that in his experience as a prosecutor, the name "Five Star Trust" came up in relation to the covert activities of the Nugan Hand Bank, a CIA-connected activity that was involved in covert activities in Australia and South East Asia.

Five Star entities, active and dissolved, have been discovered in the Isle of Man, the island of Nevis, the Bahamas, Florida, Kentucky, and Texas. Other Five Star-related entities stored large sums of money in the Cook Islands, according to U.S. intelligence sources, and these funds were directly linked to Khashoggi and BCCI. Khashoggi also approached top Nigerian leaders in 1982 to set up a company there that would deal exclusively in minerals. According to knowledgeable insiders, Khashoggi used a company called Triad to hammer out lucrative international deals on precious minerals. In 1994, Five Star Investments, Ltd., the entity tied to Horn, attempted to buy International Standards Group ISG), Ltd., a consulting company based in Boca Raton, Florida. According to the Palm Beach Post, Horn was the person who proposed the acquisition. ISG was also the target of a bid by UMI, Inc., a mortgage banker based in Coral Gables, Florida. The Palm Beach Post was never able to determine the source of UMI's cash.

Phony checks are not the only telltale signs associated with some of the various Five Star entities. Another bogus document, a bogus UN customs declaration for a shipment to a "Counter Terrorist Unit" in Lagos, Nigeria, was also obtained in the investigation of this story.

Horn has had a running battle with the CIA over allegations that he is owed money for his past activities on behalf of the agency. Although Horn has produced a number of dubious documents to support his claims, one of the names mentioned in documents filed in U.S. court in Washington, DC is that of E. Warren Goss, an actual attorney in Boulder, Colorado. It has not been established if E. Warren Goss has any family connection to Porter Goss, the current CIA director.

In a September 17, 2003, declaration by Marilyn A. Dorn, Information Review Officer in the Directorate of Operations at the CIA, in response to Horn's Freedom of Information Act request, it was determined that the agency had no records containing the names "Five Star Trust" or a reported subsidiary, "U.S. Mortgage and Trust (Bahamas)." Dorn reported that no records containing references to either entity were discovered but that two documents, cables?"field traffic consisting of one and a half pages and eight partial lines of message text, respectively, dating from the early 1980s"?were responsive to Horn's request. It is interesting that the CIA admits the time frame because the genesis of Five Star Trust was 1983, when, according to U.S. intelligence insiders, then-Vice President Bush authorized a Boeing 747 with a special "carriage" to airlift several tons of gold bars from Clark Air Force base in the Philippines to LaGuardia Airport in New York.

The gold bars were then transported to the International Diamond Exchange Vaults near Rockefeller Center. A CIA proprietary firm called Oceaneering International of Houston was reportedly involved in airlifting some of the gold from the Philippines, in addition to sealifting the remainder to Oregon. After George W. Bush's victory in 2000, the last of the gold in New York was moved to UBS Bank in Zurich. Marcos and Khashoggi set about to create Five Star Trust in 1983 as a means to create a vehicle to use the Philippine wealth to create and funnel fungible assets. In 1989, Five Star Trust was officially established in the Isle of Man by a Houston-based attorney who was a close friend of the Bush family.

The CIA's explanation of its decision to withhold the release the two cables was partly based on the use of cryptonyms?artificial words used as substitutes for the actual name or identity of a "person, organization, or project." The CIA statement continues: "when obtained and matched with other information, a cryptonym possesses a great deal of meaning for those who are able to fit it into the proper cognitive framework." The denial of Horn's FOIA request also stated that the two responsive documents could "reveal the existence or location of covert CIA field installations in multiple foreign countries." In addition, the CIA stated that release of the documents in question would "reveal specific and sensitive subjects in which the CIA is or was interested." Finally, disclosure of the requested documents was denied because of "foreign relations." The agency emphasized that, "in carrying out its legally authorized intelligence activities, the CIA engages in activities that if known by foreign nations, could reasonably be expected to cause serious damage to U.S. relations with affected or interested nations."

The story of this corruption is nothing new. What is new is the purpose. The use of this old and covert tranche of money for a special Bush operation to deny the American people their right to a free and fair vote was not the typical illegal sale of arms to a terrorist nation, the overthrow of a foreign government, or the payment of bribes to foreign potentates. It was a high crime in every constitutional sense. The target was the American political system and not just in 2004 but also in 2003, 2002, and 2000. The scandal goes right up to the White House and the Governor's Mansion in Tallahassee. It involves an extremely crooked Florida national politician and other Florida state government officials. And, as with all modern American political scandals, we have at least one dead body, a number of whistleblowers and anonymous "Deep Throats," powerful but corrupt politicians, counterfeit and real documents, con men, and a money trail tied to off-shore foreign bank accounts.

People may wonder why a group of intelligence insiders would come forward to a non-major media outlet with such tantalizing information at this time. The corporate-beholden media cannot be trusted to report such a news story. A common theme from all the intelligence and ex-intelligence officials with whom I have communicated is that George W. Bush made a major mistake in attacking and purging the clandestine service of the CIA. The "agency," which extends far beyond the confines of Langley, Virginia, is having its revenge. It has willingly exposed a portion of a traditional clandestine CIA money route to expose the vote scam that was used to ensure Bush's election.

The clues, for example, the bogus check, were conveyed to us as exactly that?clues. Those markers pointed to the illegal nature of the covert money flows. The connections between NASA contracts, Texas, and Florida were additional clues to one of the major sources of the money used for the vote rigging. There were a number of roads that led to the same destination. But that is the nature of covert intelligence. Some patriotic and brave people, who have served in silence for a number of decades, have chosen their country over a corrupt family and administration. It is now time for the constitutional process to begin. Rectification of the criminal conspiracy that denied John Kerry and John Edwards the White House must begin in Ohio, and extend to Florida, California, Texas, Georgia, and other states where votes were flipped by computers from the Kerry to the Bush column. Past elections must also be investigated and those who were done in by this fraud, namely, people like Max Cleland, Gray Davis, Al Gore, and others must also have their day in court.

 

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Editor Matthew Rothschild comments on the news of the day.

December 3, 2004

Way to Go, Ohio

Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell is preparing to certify that Ohio went for Bush.

No surprise there.

After all, Blackwell headed up Bush's reelection campaign in the state, and he did what he could to make it more difficult for people to cast provisional ballots.

As Jesse Jackson has noted, in a column entitled "Something's fishy in Ohio," this resulted in the disqualification of a disproportionate number of voters in predominantly Democratic Cuyahoga County.

In other strongholds, including liberal college towns, people had to stand in line for hours on end.

In Franklin County, the head of the board of elections, who happens to be the former head of the Franklin County Republican Party, failed to provide the necessary number of voting machines at the polls, even though he was made aware of the great increase in voter registrations and even though he had 68 extra voting machines available, according to Bob Fitrakis of the Columbus Free Press. In that city, "voters waited in the heavily Democratic wards between two and seven hours," he writes.

According to the Columbus Dispatch, voting machines were actually added in Republican precincts and taken away in Democratic ones.

Ohio voters have also given sworn testimony at public hearings of machines switching their Kerry votes over to Bush.

And in some heavily black precincts of Cleveland, obscure third party candidates were getting half to two-thirds as many votes as John Kerry, Fitrakis discovered, as did Juan Gonzales at The New York Daily News.

"In precinct 4F, located at Benedictine High School on Martin Luther King Jr. Drive," wrote Gonzales, "Kerry received 290 votes, Bush 21, and Michael Peroutka, candidate of the ultra-conservative anti-immigrant constitutional Party, an amazing 215 votes! . . . In precinct 4N, also at Benedictine High School, the tally was Kerry 318, Bush 21, and Libertarian party candidate Michael Badnarik 163."

"That's terrible. I can't believe it. It's obviously a malfunction with the machines," Cleveland City Councilman Kenneth Johnson told Gonzales.

Jesse Jackson pointed out one other peculiarity.

"Ellen Connally, an African-American Supreme Court candidate running an underfunded race at the bottom of the ticket, received over 257,000 more votes than Kerry in 37 counties," Jackson wrote. "She ran better than Kerry in the areas of the state where she wasn't known and didn't campaign than she did where she was known and did campaign."

Jackson's right. Something fishy did happen in Ohio.

And activists groups, muckraking journalists, and the Green Party are right to keep on challenging the results and demanding a recount until we know, for certain, what the actual vote totals were.

Ohio isn't the Ukraine. Or at least it's not supposed to be.

-- Matthew Rothschild

 

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The new Watergate, Votergate 2000-2004, now discussed on Slashdot:

Politics: Programmer Built Vote-Rigging Demo for Florida Politician
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Posted by michael on Tuesday December 07, @12:36PM
from the i-am-not-a-crook dept.
Syre writes "therawstory reports that a programmer named Clinton Curtis says in a sworn affidavit (mirror) that he developed prototype vote-rigging software at the request of then-Florida state representative Tom Feeney. The affidavit has been turned over to the House Judiciary Committee, of which Feeney is now a member. Should we call for inspection and disassembly of all the voting machine code to see if it contains any of these secret vote tampering functions he was asked to include in his prototype?" A follow-up interview is available. A point to emphasize: he's not making any claims of actual fraud occurring in the Florida elections. From the interview: "While he stresses that the development of a prototype of vote-rigging software does not of itself indicate fraud took place, he is certain that the intent of Rep. Feeney, who he charges commissioned the code, was to taint the election. ?He definitely had the intent to do it,? Curtis says. ?And he bragged about trying to adjust the vote in the previous [2002] election, not with the machines but the minority lists and things like that.?

?They?re willing to win,? he says. ?They?re willing to play the game and win.?
Curtis doesn?t mince words in his opinion of Feeney: on his website, he calls him a ?total piece of crap.? When representing Yang Enterprises, Curtis? former employer, Feeney was the only dually registered lobbyist and state congressman, and he once promised to put Florida in the Bush column in 2000 even if it meant defying the courts."



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DEBUNKED - Wired News

[Hat tip: Kevin Aylward]

A study by Berkeley grad students and a professor showing anomalies with electronic-voting machines in Florida has been debunked by numerous academics who say the students used a faulty equation to reach their results and should never have released the study before getting it peer-reviewed. . . . . .

Analysis from Professors McCullough and Plassman

The recent working paper by Hout, Mangels, Carlson and Best ("HMCB") concludes that "electronic voting raised President Bush's advantage from the tiny edge he held in 2000 to a clearer margin of victory in 2004." In particular, the paper's authors allege that Bush received somewhere between 130,000 and 260,000 "excess votes" that were not actually cast. We are suspicious of persons who call press conferences to release "results" that have not been peer reviewed. As professors who teach statistics and econometrics to undergraduate and graduate students, we are always on the lookout for good examples of "what not to do" so that we may better instruct our students in the responsible use of statistics. Therefore we have examined the HMCB study with a critical eye. We conclude that the study is entirely without merit and its "results" are meaningless.
 

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**Breaking News**

Ohio Judge Rules Punch-Card Voting Fair

Ohio Judge Rules Punch-Card Voting Fair

1 hour, 20 minutes ago

AKRON, Ohio - Voting rights are not denied to those who use punch-card ballots, a federal judge ruled in the nation's first trial to challenge the system blamed for woes in Florida in the 2000 presidential election. . . .
**Film at Eleven**
 

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Proof of Ohio Election Fraud Exposed

By William Rivers Pitt
t r u t h o u t | Report

Wednesday 15 December 2004

Among activists and investigators looking into allegations of vote fraud in the 2004 Presidential election, the company always mentioned was Diebold and its suspicious electronic touch-screen voting machines. It is Diebold that has multiple avowed Republicans on its Board of Directors. It was Diebold that gave hundreds of thousands of dollars to Bush?s election campaign. It was Diebold CEO Walden O?Dell who vowed to deliver Ohio?s electoral votes to Bush.

As it turns out, everyone was looking the wrong way. The company that requires immediate and penetrating scrutiny is Triad Systems.

Triad is owned by a man named Tod Rapp, who has also donated money to both the Republican Party and the election campaign of George W. Bush. Triad manufactures punch-card voting systems, and also wrote the computer program that tallied the punch-card votes cast in 41 Ohio counties last November. This Triad company graphic displays the counties where their machines are used:

Given the ubiquity of the Triad voting systems in Ohio, the allegations that have been leveled against this company strike to the heart of the assumed result of the 2004 election.

Earlier this week, the allegations against triad were first raised by Green Party candidate David Cobb, who testified at a hearing held in Columbus, Ohio by Rep. John Conyers of the House Judiciary Committee. In his testimony, Cobb stated:

Mr. Chairman, though our time is limited, I must bring to the committee's attention the most recent and perhaps most troubling incident that was related to my campaign on Sunday, December 12, about a shocking event that occurred last Friday, December 10.

A representative from Triad Systems came into a county board of elections office un-announced. He said he was just stopping by to see if they had any questions about the up-coming recount. He then headed into the back room where the Triad supplied Tabulator (a card reader and older PC with custom software) is kept. He told them there was a problem and the system had a bad battery and had "lost all of its data". He then took the computer apart and started swapping parts in and out of it and another "spare" tower type PC also in the room. He may have had spare parts in his coat as one of the BOE people moved it and remarked as to how very heavy it was. He finally re-assembled everything and said it was working but to not turn it off.

He then asked which precinct would be counted for the 3% recount test, and the one which had been selected as it had the right number of votes, was relayed to him. He then went back and did something else to the tabulator computer.

The Triad Systems representative suggested that since the hand count had to match the machine count exactly, and since it would be hard to memorize the several numbers which would be needed to get the count to come out exactly right, that they should post this series of numbers on the wall where they would not be noticed by observers. He suggested making them look like employee information or something similar. The people doing the hand count could then just report these numbers no matter what the actual count of the ballots revealed. This would then "match" the tabulator report for this precinct exactly. The numbers were apparently the final certified counts for the selected precinct.

Triad is contracted to do much of the elections work in this county and elsewhere in Ohio. This included programming the candidates into the tabulator, and coming up with the rotation of candidates in the various precincts (that is, the order of which candidate is first changes between precincts). They also have a technician in the office on election night to actually run the tabulator itself.

Triad also supplies the network computers on which all of the voter registration information and processing is kept for the county.

It was unusual for the computers to be taken apart. At least one member of the Board of Elections was told the tabulator was in pieces when he called to check on the office.

The source of this report believes that the Triad representative was "making the rounds" of visiting other counties also before the recount. This person also stated they would not pass on the suggestion of the "posted" hidden totals, and would refuse to go along with it if it were suggested by the others in the office at the time.

The source of this information believes they could lose their job if they come forward.


The source of this information is named Sherole Eaton, Hocking County deputy director of elections. She has since written and signed an affidavit describing her experience with the Triad representative, the text of which is here:

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