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woolfe9998

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Apparently you're too inept to understand that Democrats live in Red states, and Republicans live in Blue states. Crazy, shit, I know lol.

You're better than that, woolfe.

You don't actually believe that when all the blue states occupy the top half and all the red states occupy the bottom half, that it isn't republicans who are the problem here. They are, and you know it. You are just lying right now.
 

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You don't actually believe that when all the blue states occupy the top half and all the red states occupy the bottom half, that it isn't republicans who are the problem here. They are, and you know it. You are just lying right now.

Ironically, it's all feelings based. Some science-y guy said some mean word about conservatives and they'll sure show him.
 

VashHT

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You don't actually believe that when all the blue states occupy the top half and all the red states occupy the bottom half, that it isn't republicans who are the problem here. They are, and you know it. You are just lying right now.
Think him arguing this has anything to do with Fox telling people to get the vaccine now? I half expect Fox to start claiming democrats are really the ones not getting vaccinated just like he's doing.
 
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You don't actually believe that when all the blue states occupy the top half and all the red states occupy the bottom half, that it isn't republicans who are the problem here. They are, and you know it. You are just lying right now.

Yes, I posted a graph of vaccination by race - and it's very clear racial groups that are more probable to voting Democrat have the LOWEST vaccination rate.

Unless you want to explain to me how Republicans magically got 95% of the black vote?

Then I posted a follow-up showing specific counties that had high Demcorat voting were some of the lowest vaccination.

I'm sorry that specific facts got in the way of your generalizations of states that are often 55/45 split in terms of political parties - that ultimately mean nothing at a high level.
 

woolfe9998

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Yes, I posted a graph of vaccination by race - and it's very clear racial groups that are more probable to voting Democrat have the LOWEST vaccination rate.

Unless you want to explain to me how Republicans magically got 95% of the black vote?

Then I posted a follow-up showing specific counties that had high Demcorat voting were some of the lowest vaccination.

I'm sorry that specific facts got in the way of your generalizations of states that are often 55/45 split in terms of political parties - that ultimately mean nothing at a high level.

Every last red state is in the bottom half. Those with high black populations. Those with low black populations. There is one common factor among them: they all lean red, and the vast majority lean heavily red.

The counties you cited are cherry picked you moron. There are thousands of counties in this country. Of course you can find a county or two who voted for Trump that is doing well, and vice versa.

Everything here matches up, polling, real world data, everything.

Good luck with your fools errand of denying reality.
 
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Every last red state is in the bottom half. Those with high black populations. Those with low black populations. There is one common factor among them: they all lean red, and the vast majority lean heavily red.

The counties you cited are cherry picked you moron. There are thousands of counties in this country. Of course you can find a county or two who voted for Trump that is doing well, and vice versa.

Everything here matches up, polling, real world data, everything.

Good luck with your fools errand of denying reality.

I can only say it so many times before you're simply deemed mentally retarded: States that are "Red or blue" have no basis for rational debate. The majority of states are red/blue by a margin of 5%. You're an idiot.
 

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woolfe9998

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I can only say it so many times before you're simply deemed mentally retarded: States that are "Red or blue" have no basis for rational debate. The majority of states are red/blue by a margin of 5%. You're an idiot.

You're lying again. Laughably so.

2020:
Alabama: R+26
Alaska: R+10
Arkansas: R+28
Idaho: R+31
Indiana: R+17
Kansas: R+15
Kentucky: R+26
Louisiana: R+19
Montana: R+16
Mississippi: R+16
Missouri: R+12
North Dakota: R+34
Oklahoma: R+33
South Carolina: R+12
Tennessee: R+23
Texas: R+6
Wyoming: R+36
Utah: R+21

There it is, along with Nevada and Georgia, which Biden won by less than a point, your bottom 20 states on vaccination rate.
 

Meghan54

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I can only say it so many times before you're simply deemed mentally retarded: States that are "Red or blue" have no basis for rational debate. The majority of states are red/blue by a margin of 5%. You're an idiot.

Please…a link to show that 5% claim.

Who the fuck am I kidding? The only place you pulled that “factoid” from was yer arse. And the stench is….gotta go….
 

Muse

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You said you wanted "data" instead of "feelings." Here's some data. Not a few cherry picked counties you got off twitter.

It's the republicans who are the problem. It's indisputable.

1. Vermont
Number of people fully vaccinated: 418,339
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 67.04

2. Massachusetts
Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,357,007
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 63.21

3. Maine
Number of people fully vaccinated: 845,498
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 62.9

4. Connecticut
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,225,346
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 62.42

5. Rhode Island
Number of people fully vaccinated: 641,930
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 60.6

6. Maryland
Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,500,639
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 57.9

7. New Hampshire
Number of people fully vaccinated: 785,697
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 57.78

8. New Jersey
Number of people fully vaccinated: 5,077,581
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 57.17

9. Washington
Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,320,331
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 56.74

10. New Mexico
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,179,876
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 56.27

11. New York
Number of people fully vaccinated: 10,915,227
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 56.11

12. Oregon
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,334,446
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 55.35

13. District of Columbia
Number of people fully vaccinated: 381,131
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 54.

14. Virginia
Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,580,737
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 53.67

15. Colorado
Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,086,226
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 53.59

16. Minnesota
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,997,756
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 53.16

17. Hawaii
Number of people fully vaccinated: 750,266
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 52.99

18. Delaware
Number of people fully vaccinated: 504,923
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 51.85

19. California
Number of people fully vaccinated: 20,480,346
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 51.83

20. Pennsylvania
Number of people fully vaccinated: 6,575,932
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 51.37

21. Wisconsin
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,979,114
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 51.17

22. Iowa
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,549,216
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 49.1

23. Nebraska
Number of people fully vaccinated: 944,969
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 48.85

24. Michigan
Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,826,819
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 48.33

25. Florida
Number of people fully vaccinated: 10,277,618
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 47.85

26. Illinois
Number of people fully vaccinated: 6,053,831
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 47.77

27. South Dakota
Number of people fully vaccinated: 409,951
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 46.34

28. Ohio
Number of people fully vaccinated: 5,368,516
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 45.93

29. Alaska
Number of people fully vaccinated: 329,206
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 45.

30. Kentucky
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,003,228
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 44.84

31. Arizona
Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,245,176
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 44.58

32. Utah
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,409,162
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 43.95

33. Montana
Number of people fully vaccinated: 468,821
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 43.87

34. Indiana
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,933,840
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 43.58

35. Nevada
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,339,499
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 43.49

36. North Carolina
Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,519,991
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 43.1

37. Kansas
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,255,255
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 43.09

38. Texas
Number of people fully vaccinated: 12,456,699
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 42.96

39. Missouri
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,472,883
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 40.29

40. South Carolina
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,057,399
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 39.96

41. North Dakota
Number of people fully vaccinated: 301,939
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 39.62

42. Oklahoma
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,566,238
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 39.58

43. West Virginia
Number of people fully vaccinated: 696,124
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 38.84

44. Tennessee
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,628,470
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 38.49

45. Georgia
Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,025,666
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 37.92

46. Idaho
Number of people fully vaccinated: 660,309
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 36.95

47. Louisiana
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,684,060
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 36.23

48. Wyoming
Number of people fully vaccinated: 208,489
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 36.02

49. Arkansas
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,069,679
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 35.45

50. Mississippi
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,008,740
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 33.89

51. Alabama
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,654,644
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 33.75

Bama at the bottom. Kids there soon going back to school with NO mask requirements and no vaccinations (they are as yet ineligible to get the shots). Their hospitals are already getting very stressed with Delta positive admissions. Bad place to be, Bama, and soon to be much much worse.
 
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woolfe9998

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Bama at the bottom. Kids there soon going back to school with NO mask requirements and no vaccinations (they are as yet ineligible to get the shots). Their hospitals are already getting very stressed with Delta positive admissions. Bad place to be, Bama, and soon to be much much worse.

Is that where you are? If so, my condolences.
 

Muse

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Is that where you are? If so, my condolences.
No siree, I'm in sweet California in an area with low case counts, positivity counts and high vaccination rates, great weather too. Never been to Alabama. Just reflecting info I got reading article today at www.al.com. Check it out:

 

kage69

Lifer
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You said you wanted "data" instead of "feelings." Here's some data. Not a few cherry picked counties you got off twitter.

It's the republicans who are the problem. It's indisputable.

1. Vermont
Number of people fully vaccinated: 418,339
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 67.04

2. Massachusetts
Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,357,007
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 63.21

3. Maine
Number of people fully vaccinated: 845,498
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 62.9

4. Connecticut
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,225,346
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 62.42

5. Rhode Island
Number of people fully vaccinated: 641,930
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 60.6

6. Maryland
Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,500,639
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 57.9

7. New Hampshire
Number of people fully vaccinated: 785,697
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 57.78

8. New Jersey
Number of people fully vaccinated: 5,077,581
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 57.17

9. Washington
Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,320,331
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 56.74

10. New Mexico
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,179,876
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 56.27

11. New York
Number of people fully vaccinated: 10,915,227
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 56.11

12. Oregon
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,334,446
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 55.35

13. District of Columbia
Number of people fully vaccinated: 381,131
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 54.

14. Virginia
Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,580,737
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 53.67

15. Colorado
Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,086,226
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 53.59

16. Minnesota
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,997,756
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 53.16

17. Hawaii
Number of people fully vaccinated: 750,266
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 52.99

18. Delaware
Number of people fully vaccinated: 504,923
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 51.85

19. California
Number of people fully vaccinated: 20,480,346
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 51.83

20. Pennsylvania
Number of people fully vaccinated: 6,575,932
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 51.37

21. Wisconsin
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,979,114
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 51.17

22. Iowa
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,549,216
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 49.1

23. Nebraska
Number of people fully vaccinated: 944,969
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 48.85

24. Michigan
Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,826,819
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 48.33

25. Florida
Number of people fully vaccinated: 10,277,618
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 47.85

26. Illinois
Number of people fully vaccinated: 6,053,831
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 47.77

27. South Dakota
Number of people fully vaccinated: 409,951
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 46.34

28. Ohio
Number of people fully vaccinated: 5,368,516
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 45.93

29. Alaska
Number of people fully vaccinated: 329,206
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 45.

30. Kentucky
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,003,228
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 44.84

31. Arizona
Number of people fully vaccinated: 3,245,176
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 44.58

32. Utah
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,409,162
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 43.95

33. Montana
Number of people fully vaccinated: 468,821
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 43.87

34. Indiana
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,933,840
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 43.58

35. Nevada
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,339,499
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 43.49

36. North Carolina
Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,519,991
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 43.1

37. Kansas
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,255,255
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 43.09

38. Texas
Number of people fully vaccinated: 12,456,699
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 42.96

39. Missouri
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,472,883
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 40.29

40. South Carolina
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,057,399
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 39.96

41. North Dakota
Number of people fully vaccinated: 301,939
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 39.62

42. Oklahoma
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,566,238
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 39.58

43. West Virginia
Number of people fully vaccinated: 696,124
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 38.84

44. Tennessee
Number of people fully vaccinated: 2,628,470
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 38.49

45. Georgia
Number of people fully vaccinated: 4,025,666
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 37.92

46. Idaho
Number of people fully vaccinated: 660,309
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 36.95

47. Louisiana
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,684,060
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 36.23

48. Wyoming
Number of people fully vaccinated: 208,489
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 36.02

49. Arkansas
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,069,679
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 35.45

50. Mississippi
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,008,740
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 33.89

51. Alabama
Number of people fully vaccinated: 1,654,644
Percentage of population fully vaccinated: 33.75



Ahh, March 15th, there we are. I'm quite happy to say that as of today, Vermont is 83.3% vaccinated. I just checked WV's website. They are still only at 38% fully vaccinated.

Some difference for just 4 months, really emphasizes your point I think. Regardless of whatever the clown is bleating, I think it's quite clear to anyone possessing even a shred of honesty that red states still aren't taking covid as seriously as blue states. The numbers don't lie. We have magats for that.
 
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kage69

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No siree, I'm in sweet California in an area with low case counts, positivity counts and high vaccination rates, great weather too. Never been to Alabama. Just reflecting info I got reading article today at www.al.com. Check it out:


Good to hear.

That article was rough. What she said about schools opening too, holy shit. We're not going to have a vaccine for the kids until this Nov-Dec at the earliest I hear. Also heard hospitalization numbers about Mississippi today that made me do a double take. Makes me so mad that the fear a single capricious asshole had for his pride and political image is what led us here. There are 1.5 million American children who have experienced losing at least one family member to covid thanks to Trump the loser. Fuck!
 

woolfe9998

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Ahh, March 15th, there we are. I'm quite happy to say that as of today, Vermont is 83.3% vaccinated. I just checked WV's website. They are still only at 38% fully vaccinated.

Some difference for just 4 months, really emphasizes your point I think. Regardless of whatever the clown is bleating, I think it's quite clear to anyone possessing even a shred of honesty that red states still aren't taking covid as seriously as blue states. The numbers don't lie. We have magats for that.

Numbers are current as of today. The 83.3% you cite is probably the adult vaccination rate. Still impressive.
 

woolfe9998

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No siree, I'm in sweet California in an area with low case counts, positivity counts and high vaccination rates, great weather too. Never been to Alabama. Just reflecting info I got reading article today at www.al.com. Check it out:


Yeah, I'm in CA too where things are better.

This quote from your link is really something else.

“They cry. And they tell me they didn’t know. They thought it was a hoax. They thought it was political. They thought because they had a certain blood type or a certain skin color they wouldn’t get as sick. They thought it was ‘just the flu’. But they were wrong. And they wish they could go back. But they can’t. So they thank me and they go get the vaccine. And I go back to my office, write their death note, and say a small prayer that this loss will save more lives.”

Wow. Fox News viewing used to only be lethal to your mind. Now it is lethal to your body.
 

kage69

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Numbers are current as of today. The 83.3% you cite is probably the adult vaccination rate. Still impressive.

My bad, you are correct, and March 15th was probably when page was first created I'm guessing? As you say, still impressive. The numbers don't lie but I can still be careless with them, ha.
 

Muse

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Makes me so mad that the fear a single capricious asshole had for his pride and political image is what led us here. There are 1.5 million American children who have experienced losing at least one family member to covid thanks to Trump the loser. Fuck!
What really concerns me is that such a large chunk of the American public doesn't see through that asshole.
 

Muse

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Numbers are current as of today. The 83.3% you cite is probably the adult vaccination rate. Still impressive.
My parents mostly grew up in, met in Vermont, married there (well, eloped to NYC but just to put the rings on), Burlington. I've never been, but have always heard it's a very beautiful state.
 

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I see the resident cherry picker has been in my thread. Let's go to the actual over-all statistics, shall we?

Even the conservative WSJ doesn't deny the obvious:



Eight in 10 Democrats have at least one dose, compared with about half of Republicans.



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The partisan divide in Covid-19 vaccinations is becoming starker as the nation inches toward President Joe Biden’s goal of providing at least one shot to 70 percent of adults by July 4, complicating efforts to reach the unvaccinated in areas still vulnerable to virus outbreaks.

All but one of the 39 congressional districts where at least 60 percent of residents have received a coronavirus shot are represented by Democrats, according to a Harvard University analysis that presents one of the most detailed looks yet at the partisan split behind the nation’s diverging vaccination drive. By contrast, Republicans represent all but two of the 30 districts where fewer than one-third of residents have received a shot.
 
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Let em die let em die let em die let em die
There will be an answer
Let em die let em die