RDNA Builders Thread - 5700 XT / 5700, etc.

[Dankk]

I reached out to a representative from PowerColor who is active on Reddit, and told him about the issues with VRAM temperature reaching over 90 degrees celsius on the Red Devil (which IMO, is unacceptable for a cooler of this caliber). I also provided a couple of examples of other scattered users on the internet who are experiencing the same issue with this particular model.

Although 94 C is barely within "safe" operating temperatures, the fact of the matter is that there's also a huge disparity between this, and some other reviewers online who say their VRAM temperature tops out in the 70's. So something fishy is definitely going on. Maybe an issue at the factory with inconsistent QC?

The PowerColor rep responded very promptly, and said that this is definitely an abnormal operating temperature under sustained load. He said he also reached out to R&D to test for this issue on multiple batches of cards, and he said he'd get back to me.

@Dankk

Usually the GPU heats up faster than RAM due to airflow problems and/or high ambients. Usually.

My problem right now is not my GPU core temperature; that seems to be totally fine (hovers in the mid 70's). Really it's just memory cooling that seems really bad on my particular card.

BTW, how is the overall experience? Video codec problems? Tried any older games? I ask because Fallout 4 had weird hitching on my reference model. And video playback was just a mess. The bleeding edge always hurts. But it has been over 6 weeks since I RMA'd, and before I pull the trigger on 5700 XT again, I want to know if it is a hemophiliac.

Video playback is absolutely poor. The main media player I use (Media Player Classic) runs like a total dog, whether I'm playing back a high-quality blu-ray rip, or even something smaller.

Hardware acceleration in browsers is also still completely busted. I have to turn GPU video decoding off in Chrome, otherwise I get BSODs. In fact, I even have to turn off hardware acceleration in Discord as well, otherwise the entire application will flicker to black while I'm in a game.

So yeah, drivers are still bad. I would give it another month or two to see if things pan out. I'm hoping that AMD releases a new driver pretty soon here that has a cumulative fix for a lot of the issues... hardware acceleration being broke, BSODs, Wattman completely dying, etc, etc...

 

[amenx]

Looks like the best Navi card yet: MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT Gaming X

 

[Avalon]

Sapphire Pulse 5700 came in today! Updated to the latest Radeon drivers and running a few benchmarks on my old RX580 first. Once that's done, will install the 5700 and run the same benches, plus check memory/core temps at stock settings.

*Edit*
So far no issues. Installed without a hitch with the existing, latest drivers on my machine. I booted and went to work benching a few games that I benched on my RX 580. First impressions are that this card is pretty quiet and cool. Core temps idle around 52C and max around 73C. Haven't had a chance to check memory temps yet, they weren't in Wattman. Card is smaller than my RX 580, which is amusing. Only needed a 6pin + 8pin where my 580 needed 2x 8pin. Seems to be well built physically.

System:
AMD Ryzen 5 1600 @ 3.2Ghz
16GB DDR4 2400
Gigabyte X370 Gaming K3 Mobo
Seasonic X650 Gold PSU
Samsung 960 Evo 512GB
Windows 10 Pro latest version
Nixeus EDG27 1440p 27" monitor w/freesync

Everything below was recorded in fraps doing the same sequences at the same times, multiple runs. Not super scientific but results were typically spot on between runs of the same card. Games I ran, at native resolution and generally ultra/maxed settings unless noted:

Fallout 3 New Vegas - Heavy texture mods applied
RX580 - Avg: 57.040 - Min: 45 - Max: 71
RX 5700 - Avg: 62.004 - Min: 52 - Max: 77

Apex Legends - Low SSAO, low sun shadows, offline training section
RX 580 - Avg: 70.698 - Min: 44 - Max: 87
RX 5700 - Avg: 115.183 - Min: 82 - Max: 144

Witcher 3
RX 580 - Avg: 50.449 - Min: 46 - Max: 55
RX 5700 - Avg: 77.720 - Min: 64 - Max: 85

So minus Fallout 3 NV, which is probably just crippled by the insane amount of unoptimized textures, very happy with the results and about what I expected. I'm now able to play my non-Fallout games with minimum FPS above 60 at 1440p finally.

 

[Shmee]

Really? better than the Red Devil?

 

[Udgnim]

might have gotten lucky with my 5700XT

undervolt to 1.081V while maintaining a 2.1 Ghz target boost

boosts higher and gets more FPS running Unigine Heaven benchmark than stock 1.2V and 2.1 Ghz target boost

 

[Shmee]

sweet! what model?

 

[Udgnim]

sweet! what model?

Gigabyte 5700 XT Gaming OC

 

[DisEnchantment]

I have this XFX RX 5700 XT THIC II sad thing is that the Processor is R5 3400G. I am still waiting for the 3900X.
But how on earth is the RX 480 GTR w/R7 1700X faster than than R5 3400G w/RX 5700XT in CS:GO?
I flashed a new BIOS and it seems to solve the issue of fans idling far too much and causing high temps at idle.

 

[wilds]

But how on earth is the RX 480 GTR w/R7 1700X faster than than R5 3400G w/RX 5700XT in CS:GO?

I'm gonna guess it is the significantly smaller L1, L2, and L3 cache that the R5 3400G has vs the R7 1700. Hopefully you can get your 3900X soon!

 

[amenx]

Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 5700 XT reviews are out:

Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 5700 XT review: Superfast and nearly flawless

The Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 5700 XT is as close to perfection as a graphics card can get, bolstered by ingenious software tricks.

www.pcworld.com

Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT Nitro+

The best Navi-based card around?

hexus.net

SAPPHIRE Radeon RX 5700 XT NITRO+ OC Review

SAPPHIRE's new flagship RX 5700 XT NITRO+ OC is here, and it sports a totally new look.

www.tweaktown.com

Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT Nitro+ Review | bit-tech.net

Taking on the Red Devil with ARGB style.

www.bit-tech.net

 

[fleshconsumed]

Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 5700 XT reviews are out:

Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 5700 XT review: Superfast and nearly flawless

The Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 5700 XT is as close to perfection as a graphics card can get, bolstered by ingenious software tricks.

www.pcworld.com

Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT Nitro+

The best Navi-based card around?

hexus.net

SAPPHIRE Radeon RX 5700 XT NITRO+ OC Review

SAPPHIRE's new flagship RX 5700 XT NITRO+ OC is here, and it sports a totally new look.

www.tweaktown.com

Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT Nitro+ Review | bit-tech.net

Taking on the Red Devil with ARGB style.

www.bit-tech.net

I scrolled though all the graphs on all of these reviews, I did not see a single graph with fan RPM speed which pretty much the only objective way to judge how loud a card is. Did I miss it?

 

[Shamrock]

I scrolled though all the graphs on all of these reviews, I did not see a single graph with fan RPM speed which pretty much the only objective way to judge how loud a card is. Did I miss it?

Hardware Unboxed says 1400rpm, neck and neck with the Red Devil. They state virtually quiet.

 

[Shmee]

I wonder when they will actually be available lol.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I wonder when they will actually be available lol.

Hopefully around the holidays, the cards will be plentiful, and the drivers will be solid.

Given what @Dankk is experiencing with the red devil, and the level of execution on the Nitro+, the Nitro+ just became my most wanted.

 

[kondziowy]

Gamersnexus measured fan speed and Nitro had 1300rpm and on quiet bios 1000rpm. But they also had very nice temps on Gigabyte while others had much worse. Maybe it's because GN measures on open benchtable.

Still, Nitro probably is the best.

But it has the same behaviour as mine Vega64 which is high rpm fan for 1-st minute 1500rpm and later drops to 1200rpm. I wonder why Sapphire does this.

It was available in Germany and sold out 30 minutes later Exactly the same happened with V64 Nitro and later there were 6 months with no stock Not funny actually :/ If it comes back be prepared for higher price guys... just saying.

 

[fleshconsumed]

Hardware Unboxed says 1400rpm, neck and neck with the Red Devil. They state virtually quiet.

Thanks for that. So far it looks like MSI Gaming X, PowerColor Red Devil, and Sapphire Nitro are the best 5700XT cards available on the market - they all cool very well with fans spinning around 1300-1400 RPM at full load. Sapphire Pulse 5700XT looks to be the best budget option at only $10 above OEM MSRP and providing good cooling at 1500-1600 RPM. The rest of the cards are inconclusive (Gigabyte, and XFX), or downright horrible like MSI Evoke (lol).

 

[Kenmitch]

PowerColor Liquid Devil teased.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1177369207857504257

It's in this video at 3:11 not much info, but at least a better view of the card.

 

[Shmee]

Intriguing!

 

[Justinbaileyman]

Any chance on there being a RX 5800-XT coming out in lets say the next 2 to 3 months or is that wishful thinking?

 

[Shmee]

I would certainly like to know as well. I am eagerly awaiting the big Navi chip(s).

 

[VirtualLarry]

I would certainly like to know as well. I am eagerly awaiting the big Navi chip(s).

I'm actually hoping for a whole slew of RX 5500 / 5500 Xt or maybe RX 5600 or RX 5700LE, purely for mining (and lite gaming, if friends come over), especially if they have the same GDDR6 14Ghz chips as the RX 5700 GPU does. though, I guess that they would be on 128-bit bus rather than 256-bit, some maybe their hashrate won't be that much greater than an RX 580 already does.

ETH
RX 580 == 30Mh/s
RX 5700 == 49.3 Mh/s (stock, prelim miner support)
RX 5500 / 5500 XT???

 

[Shmee]

I saw one video where a guy had over 60 MH/s on a 5700XT. Not sure how viable or normal that is though.

 

[Justinbaileyman]

Well I was only asking because I was just curious how close we are to the 5800/5900 XT models so I could know If I should just start considering a 5700 XT now or just wait a tad bit more for the better parts..
Didn't really want to upgrade to the 5700 XT due to having just purchased a GTX 1660 ti going on close to a month ago now.
But now that the Radeon drivers are maturing and the fact that the prices are dropping closer to the msrp, its starting to persuade my purchase decisions.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Didn't really want to upgrade to the 5700 XT due to having just purchased a GTX 1660 ti going on close to a month ago now.
But now that the Radeon drivers are maturing and the fact that the prices are dropping closer to the msrp, its starting to persuade my purchase decisions.

Hey, PM me if you plan to sell the GTX 1660 ti.

 

[Justinbaileyman]

Hey, PM me if you plan to sell the GTX 1660 ti.

Ok I will let you know , because I will for sure be selling the GTX 1660 ti If I upgrade to a 5700 XT.