Racism in ATOT

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: Linux23

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
OK, I'll play

I grew up in the Dakotas, first black I saw was when I was 14 years old.

I worked i the blackest part of Dallas for ~10 years, at night you can rear the gentle patter of small arms fire pucntuated by the occasional shotgun blast & rifle shot...

For me to even begin to respect inner city blacks, they need to do the following:

1.) Start goddamn parenting, that includes the basics of just being around the kid, and not procreating outside of marriage or at least giving a crap about the life you started & having a relationship with them, and we're not even talking about paying child support yet.

2.) Become a hell of a lot less accepting of drug use, out of wedlock births, poor grades, violence & criminal activity.

The inner cities are a mess, and blacks hve no-one but themselves to blame.

If my expecting blacks to do something, well hell, anything for themselves & create a safe decent environment for themselves & their children is racist, that's pretty goddamn sad.

Definately not a racist.


Just a fvcking moron.

So I'm a moron because you won't face facts?

BTW, my list came from a prominent black activist on the Tavis Smiley show; I stole it several years ago.

Thanks for playing asshat...

 

[Miramonti]

This thread is like telling a group of southern rednecks that they are a bunch of hateful sheet wearing racist klansmen.

ie so what if some are, what's the point of telling that to them?

 

[Yellow Dog]

Originally posted by: classy

Scumbags, huh? Jackson's and Sharpton's names constantly resurface for criticism here, but I don't see the recurring threads of the KKK, people like Jeffrey Dahmer, Matthew Hale, and Timothy McVeigh, all the white priests raping little boys, all the white teachers sleeping with kids, all the corrupt white CEOs who have ruined millions of people's lives. It would seem to me that there are plenty of white scumbags you could spend your time talking about, just a thought.

Jackson and Sharpton are in the news everyother day as they pull some stunt to get their face and name in the media, which to them equals income.

Dahmer, Hale, WcVeigh are DEAD or IN Prison, there is a difference

 

[Sqube]

Hating Jonnie Cochran, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton et al. doesn't automatically make you racist. In case you weren't aware, a white person can hate a black person without said white person being racist, for Christ's sake.

Pliablemoose, I can respect what you said. Those are true points, and it doesn't matter what color your skin happens to be. Of course, since you're white, people will shortly come through and tell you you're racist for this.

As a black person, let me be the first to apologize for the goddamn idiots who think that race has to be a part of everything. It's 2005, and I trust that you're fully capable of hating me for my religious beliefs, my favorite sports teams, my political party or my preference for AMD over Intel.

You can hate me for all of those things without you automatically being racist. If you never hear that again (you definitely won't hear it in this thread), know this to be true.

To all white people who aren't scared to let black people know that they need to get their fvcking acts together, I salute you.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: Sqube
Hating Jonnie Cochran, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton et al. doesn't automatically make you racist. In case you weren't aware, a white person can hate a black person without said white person being racist, for Christ's sake.

Pliablemoose, I can respect what you said. Those are true points, and it doesn't matter what color your skin happens to be. Of course, since you're white, people will shortly come through and tell you you're racist for this.

As a black person, let me be the first to apologize for the goddamn idiots who think that race has to be a part of everything. It's 2005, and I trust that you're fully capable of hating me for my religious beliefs, my favorite sports teams, my political party or my preference for AMD over Intel.

You can hate me for all of those things without you automatically being racist. If you never hear that again (you definitely won't hear it in this thread), know this to be true.

To all white people who aren't scared to let black people know that they need to get their fvcking acts together, I salute you.

Wow. :beer: Well said.

 

[EpsiIon]

Originally posted by: Sqube
Hating Jonnie Cochran, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton et al. doesn't automatically make you racist. In case you weren't aware, a white person can hate a black person without said white person being racist, for Christ's sake.

Pliablemoose, I can respect what you said. Those are true points, and it doesn't matter what color your skin happens to be. Of course, since you're white, people will shortly come through and tell you you're racist for this.

As a black person, let me be the first to apologize for the goddamn idiots who think that race has to be a part of everything. It's 2005, and I trust that you're fully capable of hating me for my religious beliefs, my favorite sports teams, my political party or my preference for AMD over Intel.

You can hate me for all of those things without you automatically being racist. If you never hear that again (you definitely won't hear it in this thread), know this to be true.

To all white people who aren't scared to let black people know that they need to get their fvcking acts together, I salute you.

Respect++

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: jjsole
This thread is like telling a group of southern rednecks that they are a bunch of hateful sheet wearing racist klansmen.

ie so what if some are, what's the point of telling that to them?

I think most people here are fairly tolerant. Some aren't but I would say that most are...Maybe I'm just an optimist. Oh well, I can accept that.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
I was wondering why people here in ATOT are so racist... People here are so anti-johnny cochran, anti-jesse jackson... just anti-black period... any thread with any celebrity black person soon becomes an instant kkk-fest... the "bling-bling" comments ensue and the thread goes down the crapper... yeah yeah i'm not perfect myself... From an outsider's POV, you all are overtly racist whether you think so or not... It seems as if the majority here are old, lonely white men who hate life/minorities/women/anything non-computer related...

/rant

Johnny Cochran was an ambulance chasing scum sucker.

Jesse Jackson is a race bating, blackmailing scum sucker.

"Bling Bling" is a joke on a popular sub culture in the US that happens to be associated with inner city blacks.

Not ONE of these sentiments is racist. Not a single one.

One can attack or insult a culture or individual person and NOT be racist. Culture, morality, and politics are NOT inherent traits, therefore attacking them is NOT racist.

Finally, your cluelessness makes it full circle when you describe ATOTers as "old, lonely white men who hate life/minorities/women/anything non-computer related."

The average age here is early 20s. proof /// more proof The board has a disproportionately high percentage of Asian members. And most people posting in OT are doing so because they're tired of talking about computers in the other forums.

Finally, if you venture over to P&N (your ignorant knee-jerking ass would fit right in over there) you'd note that the majority of members here lean towards the left of the political spectrum.

In short, you couldn't be any more wrong if you tried.

In reality, this is one of the least racist places on the web.

I knew your racist @ss would post.

There you go again, Classy. Please post ONE racist thing I have said on these forums. Just one.

Of course, you cannot.

You always seem to have your mouth open whining about blacks in some way.

I bitch about many things and many people, Classy. It's not my fault you choose to react only when it involves a black person or culture.

Last time I checked clown, F. Lee Bailey and Barry Sheck were part of OJ's defense as well. But I don't see posts from you about them.

Because no one mentioned them. If someone had brought them up I would have offered the same opinion.

And you don't know a damn thing else about Cochran.

I know enough.

And your garbage about Jackson is a joke.

No, it is Jackson who is the joke. But the even bigger joke are the idiots who blindly follow him.

What have you ever done for anyone besides yourself or if they aren't white?

My generous charty donations help people of all races, Classy. I don't base my charity, or opinions on color. Unlike you.

You are a piece of trash Amused. You talk down about blacks repeatedly on this board, but yet you said you own businesses in black neighborhoods, damn hypocrite.

There you go again. If I refused to open stores in black neighborhoods, I'd be accused of racism. If I open stores in black neighborhoods, I'm a racist who takes their money. I'm damned if I do, damned if I don't.

And I have never "talked down" about black PEOPLE. Only black culture or individual people. I have never suggested much less claimed that blacks are somehow inherently inferior to any other race. It is not my fault that you take cultural and moral criticism as racism.

BTW, My opinion of popular black CULTURE (not people) directly correlates with Bill Cosby's opinion. Is he a racist, too?

Hey why don't explain again how blacks are the majority of serial killers again.

I never said that. It's not my fault you are incapable of logic and reason.

In case no one remembers the thead, here it is:

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...hreadid=1339798&enterthread=y&arctab=y

The thread's topic was "why are most serial killers white?"

I pointed out the FACT that 22% of serial killers are black, while making up only 12% of the population, meaning blacks make up a disproportionatly high percentage of serial killers, contrary to the OP's misconception in the thread. Yes, most serial killers are white, but NOT because whites are more likely to be serial killers, but because white make up a much larger percentage of the population.

It's not my fault you choose to deny reality and pull the race card when it's thrust in your face.

In that thread, too, you called me a "racist." Yet when challenged, you could produce NO evidence that I ever posted a negative thing about anyone based solely on the color of their skin or any other inherent trait. I challenge you to prove otherwise.

I resent your libelous claims. Produce evidence that I have said hateful things about people based on the color of their skin or apologize for your libel.

This board is easily 90-95% white and you know it.

Hardly. There is a large percentage of Asians on this board. Much larger than their percentage in the general population. I'd say this board is 80% white, tops.

It is so clear a brother has run up in your family it ain't funny.

I have no idea what this means.

 

[amcdonald]

Ccan you really blame white people for the way they act, when they undeniably evolved from angels, and not fish/apes/mud/etc. like the other races?

 

[jackmar]

Originally posted by: daniel1113
Methinks someone needs to loosen up.

yooo damned right!

 

[Hossenfeffer]

:music:

Princeton:
Say, Kate, can I ask you a question?

Kate Monster:
Sure!

Princeton:
Well, you know Trekkie Monster upstairs?

Kate Monster:
Uh huh.

Princeton:
Well, he's Trekkie Monster, and you're Kate Monster.

Kate Monster:
Right.

Princeton:
You're both Monsters.

Kate Monster:
Yeah.

Princeton:
Are you two related?

Kate Monster:
What?! Princeton, I'm surprised at you! I find that racist!

Princeton:
Oh, well, I'm sorry! I was just asking!

Kate Monster:
Well, it's a touchy subject.
No, not all Monsters are related.
What are you trying say, huh?
That we all look the same to you?
Huh, huh, huh?

Princeton:
No, no, no, not at all. I'm sorry,
I guess that was a little racist.

Kate Monster:
I should say so. You should be much more
careful when you're talking about the
sensitive subject of race.

Princeton:
Well, look who's talking!

Kate Monster:
What do you mean?

Princeton:
What about that special Monster School you told me about?

Kate Monster:
What about it?

Princeton:
Could someone like me go there?

Kate Monster:
No, we don't want people like you-

Princeton:
You see?!

You're a little bit racist.

Kate Monster:
Well, you're a little bit too.

Princeton:
I guess we're both a little bit racist.

Kate Monster:
Admitting it is not an easy thing to do...

Princeton:
But I guess it's true.

Kate Monster:
Between me and you,
I think

Both:
Everyone's a little bit racist
Sometimes.
Doesn't mean we go
Around committing hate crimes.
Look around and you will find
No one's really color blind.
Maybe it's a fact
We all should face
Everyone makes judgments
Based on race.

Princeton:
Now not big judgments, like who to hire
or who to buy a newspaper from -

Kate Monster:
No!

Princeton:
No, just little judgments like thinking that Mexican
busboys should learn to speak goddamn English!

Kate Monster:
Right!

Both:
Everyone's a little bit racist
Today.
So, everyone's a little bit racist
Okay!
Ethinic jokes might be uncouth,
But you laugh because
They're based on truth.
Don't take them as
Personal attacks.
Everyone enjoys them -
So relax!

Princeton:
All right, stop me if you've heard this one.

Kate Monster:
Okay!

Princeton:
There's a plan going down and there's only
one paracute. And there's a rabbi, a priest...

Kate Monster:
And a black guy!

Gary Coleman:
Whatchoo talkin' 'bout Kate?

Kate Monster:
Uh...

Gary Coleman:
You were telling a black joke!

Princeton:
Well, sure, Gary, but lots of people tell black jokes.

Gary Coleman:
I don't.

Princeton:
Well, of course you don't - you're black!
But I bet you tell Polack jokes, right?

Gary Coleman:
Well, sure I do. Those stupid Polacks!

Princeton:
Now, don't you think that's a little racist?

Gary Coleman:
Well, damn, I guess you're right.

Kate Monster:
You're a little bit racist.

Gary Coleman:
Well, you're a little bit too.

Princeton:
We're all a little bit racist.

Gary Coleman:
I think that I would
Have to agree with you.

Princeton/Kate Monster:
We're glad you do.

Gary Coleman:
It's sad but true!
Everyone's a little bit racist -

All right!

Kate Monster:
All right!

Princeton:
All right!

Gary Coleman:
All right!
Bigotry has never been
Exclusively white

All:
If we all could just admit
That we are racist a little bit,
Even though we all know
That it's wrong,
Maybe it would help us
Get along.

Princeton:
Oh, Christ do I feel good.

Gary Coleman:
Now there was a fine upstanding black man!

Princeton:
Who?

Gary Coleman:
Jesus Christ.

Kate Monster:
But, Gary, Jesus was white.

Gary Coleman:
No, Jesus was black.

Kate Monster:
No, Jesus was white.

Gary Coleman:
No, I'm pretty sure that Jesus was black-

Princeton:
Guys, guys...Jesus was Jewish!

Brian:
Hey guys, what are you laughing about?

Gary Coleman:
Racism!

Brian:
Cool.

Christmas Eve:
BRIAN! Come back here!
You take out lecycuraburs!

Princeton:
What's that mean?

Brian:
Um, recyclables.
Hey, don't laugh at her!
How many languages do you speak?

Kate Monster:
Oh, come off it, Brian!
Everyone's a little bit racist.

Brian:
I'm not!

Princeton:
Oh no?

Brian:
Nope!

How many Oriental wives
Have you got?

Christmas Eve:
What? Brian!

Princeton:
Brian, buddy, where you been?
The term is Asian-American!

Christmas Eve:
I know you are no
Intending to be
But calling me Oriental -
Offensive to me!

Brian:
I'm sorry, honey, I love you.

Christmas Eve:
And I love you.

Brian:
But you're racist, too.

Christmas Eve:
Yes, I know.
The Jews have all
The money
And the whites have all
The power.
And I'm always in taxi-cab
With driver who no shower!

Princeton:
Me too!

Kate Monster:
Me too!

Gary Coleman:
I can't even get a taxi!

All:
Everyone's a little bit racist
It's true.
But everyone is just about
As racist as you!
If we all could just admit
That we are racist a little bit,
And everyone stopped being
So PC
Maybe we could live in -
Harmony!

Christmas Eve:
Evlyone's a ritter bit lacist!

:music:

 

[jackmar]

I think you take things too seriously. Johnny Cochran and Jesse Jackson are famous people, and famous people will be ridiculed and made fun of no matter what. It's not always a matter of racism. In ATOT I highly doubt much if any of the banter is racist.

I see plenty of anti GW Bush and Charlton Heston comments. This doesn't make these people racist and anti white, it just means these are public figures that are targets for admiration or ridicule, just like the guys you mentioned.

If someone disagrees with your view on a topic or person, it doesn't make them wrong or racist. It just means there is more than one view to look at when considering a topic.

Lighten up.

 

[Sheepathon]

are you serious?

 

[jackmar]

Originally posted by: FlyLice
I think ATOT is a equal opportunity racist. We rag on ch***s, crackers, n*****s, bea***s, [insert racial slur here].

How come cracker is the only racist slur that's ok to say or be fully spelled? (I'm not targeting you FlyLice , just the trend......)

it seems that it's ok to be racist against whites. Stererotype them and make fun of them at will, but the second anything is said about a diferent race, people will cry bloody murder about racism. Racism is racism, and it's wrong no matter who it's pointed at.

 

[jackmar]

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
And no I haven't bought into anything, it's a simple observation here on ATOT... I live in Irvine and rarely watch television... So tell me where my ideas come from again??? Conservative, white Irvine???

Wait a second, this sounds fishy to me.

It sounds like you're dismissing an entire population just because of your observation that many were white conservatives.

I also get the feeling that you're dismissing them because you dislike conservative whites.

If I were to go to San Fransisco and call them a bunch of liberal hippies I'm sure that would get me called racist and closed minded.

You seem closed off and hell bent on hating certain segments of people as much as you're claiming ATOT is. Maybe you should take a look at yourself before you go around acusing everyone of racism.

 

[jackmar]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
I was wondering why people here in ATOT are so racist... People here are so anti-johnny cochran, anti-jesse jackson... just anti-black period... any thread with any celebrity black person soon becomes an instant kkk-fest... the "bling-bling" comments ensue and the thread goes down the crapper... yeah yeah i'm not perfect myself... From an outsider's POV, you all are overtly racist whether you think so or not... It seems as if the majority here are old, lonely white men who hate life/minorities/women/anything non-computer related...

/rant

Johnny Cochran was an ambulance chasing scum sucker.

Jesse Jackson is a race bating, blackmailing scum sucker.

"Bling Bling" is a joke on a popular sub culture in the US that happens to be associated with inner city blacks.

Not ONE of these sentiments is racist. Not a single one.

One can attack or insult a culture or individual person and NOT be racist. Culture, morality, and politics are NOT inherent traits, therefore attacking them is NOT racist.

Finally, your cluelessness makes it full circle when you describe ATOTers as "old, lonely white men who hate life/minorities/women/anything non-computer related."

The average age here is early 20s. proof /// more proof The board has a disproportionately high percentage of Asian members. And most people posting in OT are doing so because they're tired of talking about computers in the other forums.

Finally, if you venture over to P&N (your ignorant knee-jerking ass would fit right in over there) you'd note that the majority of members here lean towards the left of the political spectrum.

In short, you couldn't be any more wrong if you tried.

In reality, this is one of the least racist places on the web.

You couldn't be more wrong yourself... Culture is part of race numbnuts... I dare you to make your comments to the public and see what reaction you get... And the part about disproportionate number of asians??? You call 17% a large number??? What about the 77% whites??? And since when did having ethnics on a board make it non-racist??? And all you idiots that go buy 1 post by me... Maybe you should read the other 250 or so posts that I have made... Each one has been racist/sexist or both, but now I retract all of those racist comments I have made because you all here are the kneejerking reacting idiots who took offense to my OP... You took offense because you know you are racist in that sense and are only trying to justify it... No one should have taken offense to my post enless there is something wrong with you to begin with and are on some crusade for justifying your actions... It makes me glad that I have called out all of you idiots who claim to be not racist but a simple post like this sparks emotions as such... I can still smile but it makes me happy that I have ruined your day...

Culture is NOT part of race. "Race" is inherent traits and features. Culture is LEARNED. Culture can be CHANGED. A culture can be self destructive and evil, or beneficial and enlightened.

I have made my comments public. I speak them to anyone who wants to know. I am not ashamed of them one bit. Disliking a culture is NOT racism. My comments mirror those recently made by Bill Cosby and Chris Rock. Both of them slammed popular black culture and blamed many aspects of it for the problems black communities face.

Are they self hating racists because they insulted a culture?

The boards are disproportionately Asian IN COMPARISON TO THE US POPULATION. I didn't think I had to spell that very obvious fact out, but I stand corrected by your stupidity.

I have 28,000+ posts on this board. Please search through them and point out ONE "racist" thing I have said. Just one.

Of course, you cannot.

Holy shlt!!
I posted a couple times before reading this. You are dead on Amused, and his reply to you just made anything he has ever said or will say completely invalid and stupid.

I wish I never took the time to read his crap or reply. The bullshlt being spewed here is not even worth thinking about let alone responding too.

sisq0kidd is a complete jackass. Plain and simple.

 

[SilentZero]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
OK, I'll play

I grew up in the Dakotas, first black I saw was when I was 14 years old.

I worked i the blackest part of Dallas for ~10 years, at night you can rear the gentle patter of small arms fire pucntuated by the occasional shotgun blast & rifle shot...

For me to even begin to respect inner city blacks, they need to do the following:

1.) Start goddamn parenting, that includes the basics of just being around the kid, and not procreating outside of marriage or at least giving a crap about the life you started & having a relationship with them, and we're not even talking about paying child support yet.

2.) Become a hell of a lot less accepting of drug use, out of wedlock births, poor grades, violence & criminal activity.

The inner cities are a mess, and blacks hve no-one but themselves to blame.

Oh and don't forget the CIA!!!!

 

[surreal1221]

who cares. . . people are far too insensitive in today's society anyways. I'm not raciest, unless a certain person shows their stupidity, then I am a racist. Or is that just someone that hates stupid people? *shurg*

 

[Amused]

Still waiting, Classy. Where is your outrage over those who implied that blacks are too dumb and/or impulsive to be serial killers?

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...hreadid=1339798&enterthread=y&arctab=y

In a thread filled with comments like that you singled me out because I posted FACTS and let them speak for themselves.

Where is your evidence of my supposed racial bias? Post evidence of ANY post I have made saying ONE negative thing about anyone based solely on the color of their skin or any other inherent trait.

Where is your apology for libel?

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: Amused
Still waiting, Classy. Where is your outrage over those who implied that blacks are too dumb and/or impulsive to be serial killers?

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...hreadid=1339798&enterthread=y&arctab=y

In a thread filled with comments like that you singled me out because I posted FACTS and let them speak for themselves.

Where is your evidence of my supposed racial bias? Post evidence of ANY post I have made saying ONE negative thing about anyone based solely on the color of their skin or any other inherent trait.

Where is your apology for libel?

I would like an apology as well

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: isekii

Originally posted by: Amused
Still waiting, Classy. Where is your outrage over those who implied that blacks are too dumb and/or impulsive to be serial killers?

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...hreadid=1339798&enterthread=y&arctab=y

In a thread filled with comments like that you singled me out because I posted FACTS and let them speak for themselves.

Where is your evidence of my supposed racial bias? Post evidence of ANY post I have made saying ONE negative thing about anyone based solely on the color of their skin or any other inherent trait.

Where is your apology for libel?

I would like an apology as well

Not me, I don't really care.

 

[skrilla]

Originally posted by: jackmar

How come cracker is the only racist slur that's ok to say or be fully spelled? (I'm not targeting you FlyLice , just the trend......)

it seems that it's ok to be racist against whites. Stererotype them and make fun of them at will, but the second anything is said about a diferent race, people will cry bloody murder about racism. Racism is racism, and it's wrong no matter who it's pointed at.

I'm sure you can spell cracker out because it has more than one meaning. Try it... I ate a cracker. doesn't work for the others...

 

[xXped0thugXx]

bling bling

 

[newbiepcuser]

Originally posted by: MartyMcFly3
It's the internet. Don't take it seriously.

Esp ATOT

 

[FlyLice]

Originally posted by: xXped0thugXx
bling bling

you racist pig!