Racism in ATOT

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Amused

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Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
You see, all of you come in here justifying that you aren't racist... just culture-ist (if there is such a thing)... But come fvcking on... You really think that putting down a culture populated by only a certain type of race isn't racist??? EpsiIon and Amused you know damn well what racism is, but keep on trying to justify yourselves... There is a racist undercurrent here and people can feel it... If you're so concerned about protecting your reputation as a non-racist, stop trying to change the definition, it's about damn time you change your actions...

Bullsh!t.

A culture may be made up of a majority of one race or another, but NO culture is race specific or inherent.

Many cultures are self destructive and harmful to the very people who live within them. Criticizing that culture is NOT making comments on their race or any inherent traits, but how to better themselves.

By your logic, I must accept and embrace radical Islam and terrorism because, after all, to criticize their culture is "racism," right?

Let's start with some examples and mythical "blue" people, shall we?

Example of culture criticism:

Many in the blue community excuse criminality and bring harm to their communities while blaming their problems not on themselves and other blues, but on whites and the rest of society. They become enablers for the very people who are tearing their communities, and families apart.

Example of racism:

Blue people are unable to control themselves and therefore commit more crimes.

The difference is OBVIOUS. The first is critical of actions and maintains the premise that said actions can be corrected.

The second is makes claims of inherent inferiority and is blatantly racist.

I suggest you learn to tell the difference. Because by your standards, Bill Cosby and Chris Rock are racist against blacks for criticizing popular black culture.
 

Proletariat

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To any black people who go to these boards - I don't know if this will make you feel any better - But I apologize for the behaviour of some of my.... less-than impressive brethren.

These boards are racist, and I can understand totally where you are coming from. Almost every thread about anything black is flamed at least once and if you say anything about it you are either A) Wimpy white liberal apologist or B) Black reactionary, what happened to plain, old good-fashioned American equality and 60's idealism? What you have to understand is - and it is something vital - that these boards are a collection of mostly nerdy white and asian dudes. Many have not had sex. They are seeing more black actors, black music stars and just black people in general attaining higher ranks in society. They are also having a lot of their women taken :) This is what it comes down to: to them blacks are a threat. I would brush their comments off and continue on with your life. They are really not worth the time of day.

I will admit there is some merit to the criticism of Gangsta culture, but I have to say isn't that culture uniquely American? Before Biggie and Tupac we had the Italian mafia and before that Billy the Kidd. We have always idolized the outlaw/rebel. As for the rock/rap issue; saying rock music isn't as offensive as rap is ludicrous. A large amount rock music is so grotesque I am unwilling to even post it here or anywhere. Just listen to some Cradle of Filth. I'm ashamed anyone of any race listens to that FILTH. Even rock I personally like such as Tool or NIN has some very, very offensive material. Songs such as Stinkfist, Prison Sex etc.
 

sisq0kidd

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Originally posted by: Proletariat
To any black people who go to these boards - I don't know if this will make you feel any better - But I apologize for the behaviour of some of my.... less-than impressive brethren.

These boards are racist, and I can understand totally where you are coming from. Almost every thread about anything black is flamed at least once and if you say anything about it you are either A) Wimpy white liberal apologist or B) Black reactionary, what happened to plain, old good-fashioned American equality and 60's idealism? What you have to understand is - and it is something vital - that these boards are a collection of mostly nerdy white and asian dudes. Many have not had sex. They are seeing more black actors, black music stars and just black people in general attaining higher ranks in society. They are also having a lot of their women taken :) This is what it comes down to: to them blacks are a threat. I would brush their comments off and continue on with your life. They are really not worth the time of day.

I will admit there is some merit to the criticism of Gangsta culture, but I have to say isn't that culture uniquely American? Before Biggie and Tupac we had the Italian mafia and before that Billy the Kidd. We have always idolized the outlaw/rebel. As for the rock/rap issue; saying rock music isn't as offensive as rap is ludicrous. A large amount rock music is so grotesque I am unwilling to even post it here or anywhere. Just listen to some Cradle of Filth. I'm ashamed anyone of any race listens to that FILTH. Even rock I personally like such as Tool or NIN has some very, very offensive material. Songs such as Stinkfist, Prison Sex etc.

:thumbsup:
 

DougK62

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Meh - I actually think ATOT is much less racist than the general public. That's why it's so easy to make jokes about race here and laugh about it.

 

Proletariat

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Originally posted by: DougK62
Meh - I actually think ATOT is much less racist than the general public. That's why it's so easy to make jokes about race here and laugh about it.
Thats because most everyone here is white.
 

DougK62

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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: DougK62
Meh - I actually think ATOT is much less racist than the general public. That's why it's so easy to make jokes about race here and laugh about it.
Thats because most everyone here is white.

Says who? There's a huge group of Asians here - maybe even the majority.

I see tons of jokes here about every race, and most people can take it in stride and laugh. Of course, there'll always be hypersensitive people from every race that'll take offense.

 

spiderrasmon

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it's all the chinks and crackers on here that make this such an unpleasant environment. there ought to be more sensitivity training for such posters.
 

RaiderJ

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Originally posted by: jjones
Odd, I don't see people jumping all over Bill Cosby and slamming him when his name is mentioned. Maybe it's the people, not the color, that gets the derogatory comments. I think Jackson's a tool and don't care either way about Cochrane.

Bill Cosby = :thumbsup:

Jesse Jackson/Cochrane/NAACP and other black "leaders" that do nothing to promote the success of their race (just blame their problems on whitey) = :thumbsdown:
 

zerocool1

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Originally posted by: Chraticn
Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Originally posted by: Chraticn
If you mean that we echo stereotypes such as "bling-bling" often, it's because some of those stereotypes are (for the most part) true. Others may not be, however.

Perfect example of what I am talking about...

Hm? I go to an urban high school, and this is all that I see. Are you saying that I'm blind? It seems to me that you're being inconsiderate of my sight and offensive to those with glasses.

seriously, we live in the burbs....
about the issue at hand, I don't hate a specific race, just have differences of oppinion with specific people
 

sisq0kidd

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Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: DougK62
Meh - I actually think ATOT is much less racist than the general public. That's why it's so easy to make jokes about race here and laugh about it.
Thats because most everyone here is white.

Says who? There's a huge group of Asians here - maybe even the majority.

I see tons of jokes here about every race, and most people can take it in stride and laugh. Of course, there'll always be hypersensitive people from every race that'll take offense.
17% is majority???...
 

Proletariat

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Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: DougK62
Meh - I actually think ATOT is much less racist than the general public. That's why it's so easy to make jokes about race here and laugh about it.
Thats because most everyone here is white.

Says who? There's a huge group of Asians here - maybe even the majority.

I see tons of jokes here about every race, and most people can take it in stride and laugh. Of course, there'll always be hypersensitive people from every race that'll take offense.
I doubt it is mostly Asian.

And who's to say some Asians aren't more racist than whites? I certainly have met my fair share.

Props to sisqokidd for bringing up such a relevant issue. Takes a lot of guts man.

 

sisq0kidd

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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: DougK62
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: DougK62
Meh - I actually think ATOT is much less racist than the general public. That's why it's so easy to make jokes about race here and laugh about it.
Thats because most everyone here is white.

Says who? There's a huge group of Asians here - maybe even the majority.

I see tons of jokes here about every race, and most people can take it in stride and laugh. Of course, there'll always be hypersensitive people from every race that'll take offense.
I doubt it is mostly Asian.

And who's to say some Asians aren't more racist than whites? I certainly have met my fair share.

Props to sisqokidd for bringing up such a relevant issue. Takes a lot of guts man.

Thanks, at first it was a little light hearted and somewhat sarcastic, but all the mongrels here took it to heart and I'm glad I brought up the subject...
 

DougK62

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Yep - there are racists on ATOT. There are racists everywhere, and there will ALWAYS be racists.

So what is the point of this thread?

 

Proletariat

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Originally posted by: DougK62
Yep - there are racists on ATOT. There are racists everywhere, and there will ALWAYS be racists.

So what is the point of this thread?
What was the point of all of your posts in this thread? Most of them were false.

Hopefully people realize what the are. Take a look in the mirror, walk a mile in anothers shoes etc. But knowing you people, you will go back to your angsty, nerdly selves.
 

newbiepcuser

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Originally posted by: DougK62
Yep - there are racists on ATOT. There are racists everywhere, and there will ALWAYS be racists.

So what is the point of this thread?

whats the point of any ATOT thread that gets out of control?
 

sisq0kidd

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Originally posted by: DougK62
Yep - there are racists on ATOT. There are racists everywhere, and there will ALWAYS be racists.

So what is the point of this thread?

That doesn't mean we stop fighting it...
 

Taejin

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Originally posted by: Proletariat
To any black people who go to these boards - I don't know if this will make you feel any better - But I apologize for the behaviour of some of my.... less-than impressive brethren.

These boards are racist, and I can understand totally where you are coming from. Almost every thread about anything black is flamed at least once and if you say anything about it you are either A) Wimpy white liberal apologist or B) Black reactionary, what happened to plain, old good-fashioned American equality and 60's idealism? What you have to understand is - and it is something vital - that these boards are a collection of mostly nerdy white and asian dudes. Many have not had sex. They are seeing more black actors, black music stars and just black people in general attaining higher ranks in society. They are also having a lot of their women taken :) This is what it comes down to: to them blacks are a threat. I would brush their comments off and continue on with your life. They are really not worth the time of day.

I will admit there is some merit to the criticism of Gangsta culture, but I have to say isn't that culture uniquely American? Before Biggie and Tupac we had the Italian mafia and before that Billy the Kidd. We have always idolized the outlaw/rebel. As for the rock/rap issue; saying rock music isn't as offensive as rap is ludicrous. A large amount rock music is so grotesque I am unwilling to even post it here or anywhere. Just listen to some Cradle of Filth. I'm ashamed anyone of any race listens to that FILTH. Even rock I personally like such as Tool or NIN has some very, very offensive material. Songs such as Stinkfist, Prison Sex etc.


You're a fvcking joke. I have seen your form of idiocy repeated many times - simply dismissing someone else because they are obviously envious and jealous of you/whoever they're criticizing.

Give me a break. I'm not jealous of not wearing lots of gaudy jewelry, having some bastardized form of english as 'my language' and for god's sake people - women are women, they make their own choices, and it is absofvckinglutely absurd that people actually think that men of other races get jealous when "their women" are "taken". I really couldn't give two sh*ts.
 

DougK62

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Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: DougK62
Yep - there are racists on ATOT. There are racists everywhere, and there will ALWAYS be racists.

So what is the point of this thread?
What was the point of all of your posts in this thread? Most of them were false.

Hopefully people realize what the are. Take a look in the mirror, walk a mile in anothers shoes etc. But knowing you people, you will go back to your angsty, nerdly selves.

You are such a joke :roll:

 

jagec

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Originally posted by: isekii
Cochran is a good lawyer.
Although all lawyers are scum. He was good at what he does.

Sharpton and Jackson on the other hand are bunch of low life scumbags. They act/ feel that they're owe'd something.

In my book being a "good lawyer" is almost all the justification I need to hate someone:p

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Originally posted by: Transition
Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Originally posted by: Fritzo
We don't hate races, we hate everyone. We're an equal opertunity hater :)

Well, where is the hate for me??? :p

Shouldn't you be making egg-rolls or something?

5/10... a little more creative...

Playing Starcraft, then?
 

Buck Armstrong

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Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
I was wondering why people here in ATOT are so racist... People here are so anti-johnny cochran, anti-jesse jackson... just anti-black period... any thread with any celebrity black person soon becomes an instant kkk-fest... the "bling-bling" comments ensue and the thread goes down the crapper... yeah yeah i'm not perfect myself... From an outsider's POV, you all are overtly racist whether you think so or not... It seems as if the majority here are old, lonely white men who hate life/minorities/women/anything non-computer related...

/rant

You can be anti-Jesse Jackson or anti-Sharpton without being racist. I'm anti-Demagogue, and its not my fault they fit the description. I'm also anti-Matthew Hale, does that make me racist? OJ brutally murdered his wife and got away with it, and Cochran, as the most visible and vocal of his team, got the blame. I would hate it just as much if Scott Peterson got off.