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sisq0kidd

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Originally posted by: EpsiIon
Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
You couldn't be more wrong yourself... Culture is part of race numbnuts... I dare you to make your comments to the public and see what reaction you get... And the part about disproportionate number of asians??? You call 17% a large number??? What about the 77% whites??? And since when did having ethnics on a board make it non-racist??? And all you idiots that go buy 1 post by me... Maybe you should read the other 250 or so posts that I have made... Each one has been racist/sexist or both, but now I retract all of those racist comments I have made because you all here are the kneejerking reacting idiots who took offense to my OP... You took offense because you know you are racist in that sense and are only trying to justify it... No one should have taken offense to my post enless there is something wrong with you to begin with and are on some crusade for justifying your actions... It makes me glad that I have called out all of you idiots who claim to be not racist but a simple post like this sparks emotions as such... I can still smile :) but it makes me happy that I have ruined your day...

First of all, calm down and form some coherent sentences.

Second, don't berate people and then try to joke with them. It confuses everything and makes you look like a poser.

Third, I dislike Native American reservations. I dislike what they stand for (A pays B for what A's father did to B's father) and how they isolate Native Americans from society. I think many Native Americans (and minorities as whole) need to stop whining about injustices done hundreds of years ago and start focusing on how they can improve their situations today. I can guarantee that setting yourself apart from everybody else while pointing fingers just isn't going to do it.

I am also 1/8 Cherokee. I almost certainly had ancestors on the Trail of Tears, but I don't whine about it. Are you implying that I hate 1/8 of myself because I feel the way I do? Or 1/4 of my father?

You see, your statements anger me simply because they are ignorant and impulsive. You've bought into the mainstream thought that "white people are the oppressors" just because their ancestors did some really screwed up things. Quite frankly, that makes you as biased as anybody else, if not more so.

read the rest of the thread because you have no idea what you are talking about...
 

EpsiIon

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Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Originally posted by: EpsiIon
Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
You couldn't be more wrong yourself... Culture is part of race numbnuts... I dare you to make your comments to the public and see what reaction you get... And the part about disproportionate number of asians??? You call 17% a large number??? What about the 77% whites??? And since when did having ethnics on a board make it non-racist??? And all you idiots that go buy 1 post by me... Maybe you should read the other 250 or so posts that I have made... Each one has been racist/sexist or both, but now I retract all of those racist comments I have made because you all here are the kneejerking reacting idiots who took offense to my OP... You took offense because you know you are racist in that sense and are only trying to justify it... No one should have taken offense to my post enless there is something wrong with you to begin with and are on some crusade for justifying your actions... It makes me glad that I have called out all of you idiots who claim to be not racist but a simple post like this sparks emotions as such... I can still smile :) but it makes me happy that I have ruined your day...

First of all, calm down and form some coherent sentences.

Second, don't berate people and then try to joke with them. It confuses everything and makes you look like a poser.

Third, I dislike Native American reservations. I dislike what they stand for (A pays B for what A's father did to B's father) and how they isolate Native Americans from society. I think many Native Americans (and minorities as whole) need to stop whining about injustices done hundreds of years ago and start focusing on how they can improve their situations today. I can guarantee that setting yourself apart from everybody else while pointing fingers just isn't going to do it.

I am also 1/8 Cherokee. I almost certainly had ancestors on the Trail of Tears, but I don't whine about it. Are you implying that I hate 1/8 of myself because I feel the way I do? Or 1/4 of my father?

You see, your statements anger me simply because they are ignorant and impulsive. You've bought into the mainstream thought that "white people are the oppressors" just because their ancestors did some really screwed up things. Quite frankly, that makes you as biased as anybody else, if not more so.

read the rest of the thread because you have no idea what you are talking about...

I just finished reading the thread. Care to address my point or are you going to let yourself be pwned?
 

sisq0kidd

Lifer
Apr 27, 2004
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Originally posted by: EpsiIon
Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Originally posted by: EpsiIon
Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
You couldn't be more wrong yourself... Culture is part of race numbnuts... I dare you to make your comments to the public and see what reaction you get... And the part about disproportionate number of asians??? You call 17% a large number??? What about the 77% whites??? And since when did having ethnics on a board make it non-racist??? And all you idiots that go buy 1 post by me... Maybe you should read the other 250 or so posts that I have made... Each one has been racist/sexist or both, but now I retract all of those racist comments I have made because you all here are the kneejerking reacting idiots who took offense to my OP... You took offense because you know you are racist in that sense and are only trying to justify it... No one should have taken offense to my post enless there is something wrong with you to begin with and are on some crusade for justifying your actions... It makes me glad that I have called out all of you idiots who claim to be not racist but a simple post like this sparks emotions as such... I can still smile :) but it makes me happy that I have ruined your day...

First of all, calm down and form some coherent sentences.

Second, don't berate people and then try to joke with them. It confuses everything and makes you look like a poser.

Third, I dislike Native American reservations. I dislike what they stand for (A pays B for what A's father did to B's father) and how they isolate Native Americans from society. I think many Native Americans (and minorities as whole) need to stop whining about injustices done hundreds of years ago and start focusing on how they can improve their situations today. I can guarantee that setting yourself apart from everybody else while pointing fingers just isn't going to do it.

I am also 1/8 Cherokee. I almost certainly had ancestors on the Trail of Tears, but I don't whine about it. Are you implying that I hate 1/8 of myself because I feel the way I do? Or 1/4 of my father?

You see, your statements anger me simply because they are ignorant and impulsive. You've bought into the mainstream thought that "white people are the oppressors" just because their ancestors did some really screwed up things. Quite frankly, that makes you as biased as anybody else, if not more so.

read the rest of the thread because you have no idea what you are talking about...

I just finished reading the thread. Care to address my point or are you going to let yourself be pwned?

amused said this forum is disproportionately asian, and I proved to him it is not... and even if it is disproportionately asian, that doesn't make it non-racist... and I called him out because he thinks culture isn't a part of race... now where the hell do your comments come into play???
 

sharkeeper

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Speaking of racism...

I dunno why but I thought of this as we dock at San Juan.

Since we can no longer have MASTER and SLAVE hard drives, why hasn't the hispanic community complained about a cleaning product called beloved patriot N Span?
 

EpsiIon

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Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Originally posted by: EpsiIon
Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Originally posted by: EpsiIon
Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
You couldn't be more wrong yourself... Culture is part of race numbnuts... I dare you to make your comments to the public and see what reaction you get... And the part about disproportionate number of asians??? You call 17% a large number??? What about the 77% whites??? And since when did having ethnics on a board make it non-racist??? And all you idiots that go buy 1 post by me... Maybe you should read the other 250 or so posts that I have made... Each one has been racist/sexist or both, but now I retract all of those racist comments I have made because you all here are the kneejerking reacting idiots who took offense to my OP... You took offense because you know you are racist in that sense and are only trying to justify it... No one should have taken offense to my post enless there is something wrong with you to begin with and are on some crusade for justifying your actions... It makes me glad that I have called out all of you idiots who claim to be not racist but a simple post like this sparks emotions as such... I can still smile :) but it makes me happy that I have ruined your day...

First of all, calm down and form some coherent sentences.

Second, don't berate people and then try to joke with them. It confuses everything and makes you look like a poser.

Third, I dislike Native American reservations. I dislike what they stand for (A pays B for what A's father did to B's father) and how they isolate Native Americans from society. I think many Native Americans (and minorities as whole) need to stop whining about injustices done hundreds of years ago and start focusing on how they can improve their situations today. I can guarantee that setting yourself apart from everybody else while pointing fingers just isn't going to do it.

I am also 1/8 Cherokee. I almost certainly had ancestors on the Trail of Tears, but I don't whine about it. Are you implying that I hate 1/8 of myself because I feel the way I do? Or 1/4 of my father?

You see, your statements anger me simply because they are ignorant and impulsive. You've bought into the mainstream thought that "white people are the oppressors" just because their ancestors did some really screwed up things. Quite frankly, that makes you as biased as anybody else, if not more so.

read the rest of the thread because you have no idea what you are talking about...

I just finished reading the thread. Care to address my point or are you going to let yourself be pwned?

amused said this forum is disproportionately asian, and I proved to him it is not... and even if it is disproportionately asian, that doesn't make it non-racist... and I called him out because he thinks culture isn't a part of race... now where the hell do your comments come into play???

Ahh, sorry. You confused my response with a response just to that topic. In fact, I was saying you should calm down. Then I tried to address the rest of the thread (that's why I switched to the topic of berating and joking).

Clarification of my last point:
You came out and said: "ATOT is racist"
People responded: "Shut up. Your post is dumb."
You replied: "You're just saying that because you're racist."
I'm saying: "I'm not racist (with an example), but I still think you're wrong."

Also, I don't know about the census numbers, but I wouldn't blanketly state that "17% Asian" is proportionate without some facts to back it up. It may very well be a "large number."
 

sisq0kidd

Lifer
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Originally posted by: EpsiIon
Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Originally posted by: EpsiIon
Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Originally posted by: EpsiIon
Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
You couldn't be more wrong yourself... Culture is part of race numbnuts... I dare you to make your comments to the public and see what reaction you get... And the part about disproportionate number of asians??? You call 17% a large number??? What about the 77% whites??? And since when did having ethnics on a board make it non-racist??? And all you idiots that go buy 1 post by me... Maybe you should read the other 250 or so posts that I have made... Each one has been racist/sexist or both, but now I retract all of those racist comments I have made because you all here are the kneejerking reacting idiots who took offense to my OP... You took offense because you know you are racist in that sense and are only trying to justify it... No one should have taken offense to my post enless there is something wrong with you to begin with and are on some crusade for justifying your actions... It makes me glad that I have called out all of you idiots who claim to be not racist but a simple post like this sparks emotions as such... I can still smile :) but it makes me happy that I have ruined your day...

First of all, calm down and form some coherent sentences.

Second, don't berate people and then try to joke with them. It confuses everything and makes you look like a poser.

Third, I dislike Native American reservations. I dislike what they stand for (A pays B for what A's father did to B's father) and how they isolate Native Americans from society. I think many Native Americans (and minorities as whole) need to stop whining about injustices done hundreds of years ago and start focusing on how they can improve their situations today. I can guarantee that setting yourself apart from everybody else while pointing fingers just isn't going to do it.

I am also 1/8 Cherokee. I almost certainly had ancestors on the Trail of Tears, but I don't whine about it. Are you implying that I hate 1/8 of myself because I feel the way I do? Or 1/4 of my father?

You see, your statements anger me simply because they are ignorant and impulsive. You've bought into the mainstream thought that "white people are the oppressors" just because their ancestors did some really screwed up things. Quite frankly, that makes you as biased as anybody else, if not more so.

read the rest of the thread because you have no idea what you are talking about...

I just finished reading the thread. Care to address my point or are you going to let yourself be pwned?

amused said this forum is disproportionately asian, and I proved to him it is not... and even if it is disproportionately asian, that doesn't make it non-racist... and I called him out because he thinks culture isn't a part of race... now where the hell do your comments come into play???

Ahh, sorry. You confused my response with a response just to that topic. In fact, I was saying you should calm down. Then I tried to address the rest of the thread (that's why I switched to the topic of berating and joking).

Clarification of my last point:
You came out and said: "ATOT is racist"
People responded: "Shut up. Your post is dumb."
You replied: "You're just saying that because you're racist."
I'm saying: "I'm not racist (with an example), but I still think you're wrong."

Also, I don't know about the census numbers, but I wouldn't blanketly state that "17% Asian" is proportionate without some facts to back it up. It may very well be a "large number."

Just like how the original person said that 17% on anandtech is disproportionate... And disproportionate to what??? just because you are part native american and disagree with most of them doesn't make you right... that doesn't justify native's being wrong either...
 

sisq0kidd

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And no I haven't bought into anything, it's a simple observation here on ATOT... I live in Irvine and rarely watch television... So tell me where my ideas come from again??? Conservative, white Irvine???
 

EpsiIon

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Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Just like how the original person said that 17% on anandtech is disproportionate... And disproportionate to what???

I assumed proportionate would be with respect to the population of the United States, since the forum is located in the United States and the majority of visitors are, as well.

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
just because you are part native american and disagree with most of them doesn't make you right... that doesn't justify native's being wrong either...

I acknowledge that it doesn't make me right. You missed the point. I'm saying that I disagree with the attitude of many Native Americans for reasons I view as logical, not because I hate them. It is possible to simultaneously think that the majority of a group of people are wrong and not hate them.
 

dderidex

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Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
And no I haven't bought into anything, it's a simple observation here on ATOT... I live in Irvine and rarely watch television... So tell me where my ideas come from again??? Conservative, white Irvine???

'Victim mentality'?

Just a thought?
 

sisq0kidd

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Originally posted by: EpsiIon
Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Just like how the original person said that 17% on anandtech is disproportionate... And disproportionate to what???

I assumed proportionate would be with respect to the population of the United States, since the forum is located in the United States and the majority of visitors are, as well.

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
just because you are part native american and disagree with most of them doesn't make you right... that doesn't justify native's being wrong either...

I acknowledge that it doesn't make me right. You missed the point. I'm saying that I disagree with the attitude of many Native Americans for reasons I view as logical, not because I hate them. It is possible to simultaneously think that the majority of a group of people are wrong and not hate them.

hence, you aren't the people who I'm talking about...
 

FlyLice

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I think ATOT is a equal opportunity racist. We rag on ch***s, crackers, n*****s, bea***s, [insert racial slur here].
 

EpsiIon

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Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
And no I haven't bought into anything, it's a simple observation here on ATOT... I live in Irvine and rarely watch television... So tell me where my ideas come from again??? Conservative, white Irvine???

Well when you make statements like "I took a Black Studies class and I see the light," it's hard to know whether you're joking. Especially after an OP like yours.

Also, your rather violent response to Amused's posts is reminiscent of the blind reactionism I see from most hyper-sensitives.
 

EpsiIon

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Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Originally posted by: EpsiIon
Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Just like how the original person said that 17% on anandtech is disproportionate... And disproportionate to what???

I assumed proportionate would be with respect to the population of the United States, since the forum is located in the United States and the majority of visitors are, as well.

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
just because you are part native american and disagree with most of them doesn't make you right... that doesn't justify native's being wrong either...

I acknowledge that it doesn't make me right. You missed the point. I'm saying that I disagree with the attitude of many Native Americans for reasons I view as logical, not because I hate them. It is possible to simultaneously think that the majority of a group of people are wrong and not hate them.

hence, you aren't the people who I'm talking about...

Ok, but you're implying that anybody who is offended by your post is a racist when you say

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
You took offense because you know you are racist in that sense and are only trying to justify it...

It's sort of arrogant to assume you know something about random people on the internet who may actually disagree with you for valid reasons.
 

Lumathix

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Originally posted by: jjones
Odd, I don't see people jumping all over Bill Cosby and slamming him when his name is mentioned. Maybe it's the people, not the color, that gets the derogatory comments. I think Jackson's a tool and don't care either way about Cochrane.

:thumbsup:
 

sisq0kidd

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Originally posted by: EpsiIon
Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Originally posted by: EpsiIon
Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Just like how the original person said that 17% on anandtech is disproportionate... And disproportionate to what???

I assumed proportionate would be with respect to the population of the United States, since the forum is located in the United States and the majority of visitors are, as well.

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
just because you are part native american and disagree with most of them doesn't make you right... that doesn't justify native's being wrong either...

I acknowledge that it doesn't make me right. You missed the point. I'm saying that I disagree with the attitude of many Native Americans for reasons I view as logical, not because I hate them. It is possible to simultaneously think that the majority of a group of people are wrong and not hate them.

hence, you aren't the people who I'm talking about...

Ok, but you're implying that anybody who is offended by your post is a racist when you say

Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
You took offense because you know you are racist in that sense and are only trying to justify it...

It's sort of arrogant to assume you know something about random people on the internet who may actually disagree with you for valid reasons.

then disagree with me with valid reasons... the way i responded to people was merely a reaction to the way they responded to me...
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: sisq0kidd
I was wondering why people here in ATOT are so racist... People here are so anti-johnny cochran, anti-jesse jackson... just anti-black period... any thread with any celebrity black person soon becomes an instant kkk-fest... the "bling-bling" comments ensue and the thread goes down the crapper... yeah yeah i'm not perfect myself... From an outsider's POV, you all are overtly racist whether you think so or not... It seems as if the majority here are old, lonely white men who hate life/minorities/women/anything non-computer related...

/rant

Johnny Cochran was an ambulance chasing scum sucker.

Jesse Jackson is a race bating, blackmailing scum sucker.

"Bling Bling" is a joke on a popular sub culture in the US that happens to be associated with inner city blacks.

Not ONE of these sentiments is racist. Not a single one.

One can attack or insult a culture or individual person and NOT be racist. Culture, morality, and politics are NOT inherent traits, therefore attacking them is NOT racist.

Finally, your cluelessness makes it full circle when you describe ATOTers as "old, lonely white men who hate life/minorities/women/anything non-computer related."

The average age here is early 20s. proof /// more proof The board has a disproportionately high percentage of Asian members. And most people posting in OT are doing so because they're tired of talking about computers in the other forums.

Finally, if you venture over to P&N (your ignorant knee-jerking ass would fit right in over there) you'd note that the majority of members here lean towards the left of the political spectrum.

In short, you couldn't be any more wrong if you tried.

In reality, this is one of the least racist places on the web.

You couldn't be more wrong yourself... Culture is part of race numbnuts... I dare you to make your comments to the public and see what reaction you get... And the part about disproportionate number of asians??? You call 17% a large number??? What about the 77% whites??? And since when did having ethnics on a board make it non-racist??? And all you idiots that go buy 1 post by me... Maybe you should read the other 250 or so posts that I have made... Each one has been racist/sexist or both, but now I retract all of those racist comments I have made because you all here are the kneejerking reacting idiots who took offense to my OP... You took offense because you know you are racist in that sense and are only trying to justify it... No one should have taken offense to my post enless there is something wrong with you to begin with and are on some crusade for justifying your actions... It makes me glad that I have called out all of you idiots who claim to be not racist but a simple post like this sparks emotions as such... I can still smile :) but it makes me happy that I have ruined your day...

Culture is NOT part of race. "Race" is inherent traits and features. Culture is LEARNED. Culture can be CHANGED. A culture can be self destructive and evil, or beneficial and enlightened.

I have made my comments public. I speak them to anyone who wants to know. I am not ashamed of them one bit. Disliking a culture is NOT racism. My comments mirror those recently made by Bill Cosby and Chris Rock. Both of them slammed popular black culture and blamed many aspects of it for the problems black communities face.

Are they self hating racists because they insulted a culture?

The boards are disproportionately Asian IN COMPARISON TO THE US POPULATION. I didn't think I had to spell that very obvious fact out, but I stand corrected by your stupidity.

I have 28,000+ posts on this board. Please search through them and point out ONE "racist" thing I have said. Just one.

Of course, you cannot.
 

Stark

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looks like some 8th grader is on spring break... next week it's back to full days of PC conditioning at Jr High.

:p
 

EpsiIon

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Originally posted by: Amused
Culture is NOT part of race. "Race" is inherent traits and features. Culture is LEARNED. Culture can be CHANGED. A culture can be self destructive and evil, or beneficial and enlightened.

I have made my comments public. I speak them to anyone who wants to know. I am not ashamed of them one bit. Disliking a culture is NOT racism. My comments mirror those recently made by Bill Cosby and Chris Rock. Both of them slammed popular black culture and blamed many aspects of it for the problems black communities face.

Are they self hating racists because they insulted a culture?

:thumbsup:
 

EpsiIon

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Originally posted by: AkumaX
I'm not prejudice. I just hate everybody.

After almost four pages, you can be pretty sure nobody else has made this tired joke... :roll:
 

thehstrybean

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I'm not a racist! I just hate all non-arians equally!!!

Seriously, maybe I'm just blind, but I don't see a problem...We had some guy come to our school and tell us that because we went to a conservative, Evang. Christian school, then we were racist...ticked me off to the extreme...
 

isekii

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Originally posted by: classy
Oh my how did I miss this thread? Let me read the posts then throw in my 2 pennies :p
here comes the resident atot black man with a chip on his shoulder.