R.I.P. Biggie

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: jbourne77
FFS no one gave a shyt then... why dig it up now?

Funny how when other genres of music have threads about them, people who dislike that genre typically stay out and don't comment.

Then in every single rap thread that comes up on ATOT (yes, every single one), the people who like those other genres always come in and have to bash rap.

Shows a lot about the people who like those other genres.

Biggie = my favorite rapper of all time. R.I.P.

Check out the painting of him I have in this picture here.

So, rap music really speaks to you huh? You can relate to the inner city struggle of the black man?

Nothing more lame than some white dude or an asian dude listening to rap music. You're really gangsta yo. :roll:

Wigga PLEASE!!!!

*ducks*

Hehehe...at least someone gets it.

Guess I really struck a nerve with some of you huh? Be sure and think of me the next time you're blasting your favorite rap artist. :laugh:MAO!!!

 

[JohnKimble]

Originally posted by: ucdbiendog

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: joedrake
9 years ago today, March 9, 1997, The Notorious B.I.G. (Christopher Wallace) was shot and killed in Los Angeles.
R.I.P.

I can think of quite a few better reasons to remember March 9th than the murder of a pop/hip-hop artist.

Fortunately, Wiki does it so I don't have to:

9 March

and oddly enough, BIG isnt on there.

Deaths

* 1997 - The Notorious B.I.G., American rapper (b. 1972)

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: JohnKimble

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: JohnKimble
I hate saying RIP, especially with Biggie and Tupac because they are the most dickroden rap artists ever and even retards who dont know what real hip hop is will say "RIP Biggie".
If you say RIP to Biggie, why dont you say RIP to every other person that died this day, the next day, etc.

As for some rappers that are >> Biggie :

Nas
Rakim
Canibus
Common
GZA
Kool G Rap
Killah Priest
Ras Kass
Pharoahe Monche
Masta Ace
Black Thought
Mos Def
Talib Kweli

putting the biggest words in your rhymes doesnt = being the best rapper.

case in point.....canibus....incredibly talented lyrically but his flow...is a no go.

I know that putting huge ass words in your rhymes doesnt make you the better rapper (Nas > Canibus), but the way he just thinks, the way he puts together the rhymes, very very few can rhyme like that. I think as long as the words make sense, then its alright. There are lines where he doesn't use big lines, and those still outshine most artists.

"I'm sharper than scissor tips, sharper than rings on RZA's fist, its ridiculous"
"A hundred times nicer than the best there is Twice as african as krs is, who wanna test this"

Who else can think of lines like this?

"Getting in my way is like jumping in front of a car / breaking the sound barrier ? that means the car's in front of the horn / by the time you hear it blowing, it's too late to respond / by the time you feel it hit you, I'm gone"

"Try to visualize what Harry Houdini was feeling / handcuffed underwater without breathing / near death on a fatal quest for air / but why should anybody care? He put himself there / his career was based on facing his fears / to take destiny from the hand of the man upstairs / he didn't mind the cold stares he got from his peers / they couldn't tell him where he was going or how to get there / it's better to be prepared and fail than to be scared / and unsure of yourself and still get killed". "


"I?m above average with verbal semantics/ the Aurora Borealis in the form of a rap ballad/ they look at me like, ?poor bastard,/ why can?t you manipulate Billboard with all your metaphor magic"


The thing about lyricists is, you have to look deep into their lyrics and analyze their lines, and each time you listen to one of their songs, you will understand something you didnt know, maybe because you didnt know what a specific word meant, or that you just couldn't see "behind" the line. This is why I like lyricists as opposed to "non-lyricists".

I agree. Lyricists certainly have there place in hip hop and I have many lyricists on my play list but sometimes I don't want to hear about the metaphyiscs of the universe I want to hear a fluid flow thats genius in its simplicity and biggie could do that every time.

A repetitive loop
All I need to destroy a soloist or group
Huh, I put it to ya boy
Hope you got the scoop
Biggie Smalls, the rap genius
I keep the glock by the penis, the cleanest cut
Fvck the sluts with the big humongous butts
Huh, I use a rubber, but
My style is gushy like the hooker's pu$$y
And it don't take a lot of back talk to push me
Into flamin' 'em like that little n**ga Damien
glock 19 to my motherfuckin' cranium
Game tight, gun totin' motherfvcker
Niggaz in the grave thought Biggie was a sucker
I tricked 'em- I gave 'em work then I sticked 'em
I stripped 'em, cause niggaz don't want the friction
Told you before how I brings the dra-ma
Slam Larry Johnson and his Grandma-ma

eh...not the best of biggie, dont really like it

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: jbourne77

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: jbourne77
FFS no one gave a shyt then... why dig it up now?

Funny how when other genres of music have threads about them, people who dislike that genre typically stay out and don't comment.

Then in every single rap thread that comes up on ATOT (yes, every single one), the people who like those other genres always come in and have to bash rap.

Shows a lot about the people who like those other genres.

Biggie = my favorite rapper of all time. R.I.P.

Check out the painting of him I have in this picture here.

So, rap music really speaks to you huh? You can relate to the inner city struggle of the black man?

Nothing more lame than some white dude or an asian dude listening to rap music. You're really gangsta yo. :roll:

Wigga PLEASE!!!!

*ducks*

Hehehe...at least someone gets it.

Guess I really struck a nerve with some of you huh? Be sure and think of me the next time you're blasting your favorite rap artist. :laugh:MAO!!!

perhaps you didnt see it earlier.


i know he's reffering to biggie here...but there are other kinds of rap besides gangsta rap, even emo rap...

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: JohnKimble

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: JohnKimble

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: DougK62
Are you guys actually trying to make a case for Biggie as one of the best rappers? BWAHAHAHAHAHAH

I think Biggie being in the top 5 is pretty much an accepted fact by most who enjoy rap.

For Hip Hop newbs, yes.

But when you really dig deep down, you will discover there are tons of rappers better than Biggie. See my list above.

I dont look at it as a ranking, but i would say that biggie is one of the best ones. His style and flow are top-notch and his story telling ability is second only to nas.

Slick Rick fathered the art of storytelling, just like Rakim fathered the art of lyricism.
However, you cannot forget GZA, ex. "Animal Planet", very dope storytelling and best metaphors.

I saw GZA last night it was sick.....
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=38&threadid=1818720&enterthread=y

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: JohnKimble

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: JohnKimble
I hate saying RIP, especially with Biggie and Tupac because they are the most dickroden rap artists ever and even retards who dont know what real hip hop is will say "RIP Biggie".
If you say RIP to Biggie, why dont you say RIP to every other person that died this day, the next day, etc.

As for some rappers that are >> Biggie :

Nas
Rakim
Canibus
Common
GZA
Kool G Rap
Killah Priest
Ras Kass
Pharoahe Monche
Masta Ace
Black Thought
Mos Def
Talib Kweli

putting the biggest words in your rhymes doesnt = being the best rapper.

case in point.....canibus....incredibly talented lyrically but his flow...is a no go.

I know that putting huge ass words in your rhymes doesnt make you the better rapper (Nas > Canibus), but the way he just thinks, the way he puts together the rhymes, very very few can rhyme like that. I think as long as the words make sense, then its alright. There are lines where he doesn't use big lines, and those still outshine most artists.

"I'm sharper than scissor tips, sharper than rings on RZA's fist, its ridiculous"
"A hundred times nicer than the best there is Twice as african as krs is, who wanna test this"

Who else can think of lines like this?

"Getting in my way is like jumping in front of a car / breaking the sound barrier ? that means the car's in front of the horn / by the time you hear it blowing, it's too late to respond / by the time you feel it hit you, I'm gone"

"Try to visualize what Harry Houdini was feeling / handcuffed underwater without breathing / near death on a fatal quest for air / but why should anybody care? He put himself there / his career was based on facing his fears / to take destiny from the hand of the man upstairs / he didn't mind the cold stares he got from his peers / they couldn't tell him where he was going or how to get there / it's better to be prepared and fail than to be scared / and unsure of yourself and still get killed". "


"I?m above average with verbal semantics/ the Aurora Borealis in the form of a rap ballad/ they look at me like, ?poor bastard,/ why can?t you manipulate Billboard with all your metaphor magic"


The thing about lyricists is, you have to look deep into their lyrics and analyze their lines, and each time you listen to one of their songs, you will understand something you didnt know, maybe because you didnt know what a specific word meant, or that you just couldn't see "behind" the line. This is why I like lyricists as opposed to "non-lyricists".

I agree. Lyricists certainly have there place in hip hop and I have many lyricists on my play list but sometimes I don't want to hear about the metaphyiscs of the universe I want to hear a fluid flow thats genius in its simplicity and biggie could do that every time.

A repetitive loop
All I need to destroy a soloist or group
Huh, I put it to ya boy
Hope you got the scoop
Biggie Smalls, the rap genius
I keep the glock by the penis, the cleanest cut
Fvck the sluts with the big humongous butts
Huh, I use a rubber, but
My style is gushy like the hooker's pu$$y
And it don't take a lot of back talk to push me
Into flamin' 'em like that little n**ga Damien
glock 19 to my motherfuckin' cranium
Game tight, gun totin' motherfvcker
Niggaz in the grave thought Biggie was a sucker
I tricked 'em- I gave 'em work then I sticked 'em
I stripped 'em, cause niggaz don't want the friction
Told you before how I brings the dra-ma
Slam Larry Johnson and his Grandma-ma

eh...not the best of biggie, dont really like it

I purposesly didnt choose his best to point out that he can say an ok verse and its still comes off better than 98% the bullshit out there

 

[JohnKimble]

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: JohnKimble

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: JohnKimble
I hate saying RIP, especially with Biggie and Tupac because they are the most dickroden rap artists ever and even retards who dont know what real hip hop is will say "RIP Biggie".
If you say RIP to Biggie, why dont you say RIP to every other person that died this day, the next day, etc.

As for some rappers that are >> Biggie :

Nas
Rakim
Canibus
Common
GZA
Kool G Rap
Killah Priest
Ras Kass
Pharoahe Monche
Masta Ace
Black Thought
Mos Def
Talib Kweli

putting the biggest words in your rhymes doesnt = being the best rapper.

case in point.....canibus....incredibly talented lyrically but his flow...is a no go.

I know that putting huge ass words in your rhymes doesnt make you the better rapper (Nas > Canibus), but the way he just thinks, the way he puts together the rhymes, very very few can rhyme like that. I think as long as the words make sense, then its alright. There are lines where he doesn't use big lines, and those still outshine most artists.

"I'm sharper than scissor tips, sharper than rings on RZA's fist, its ridiculous"
"A hundred times nicer than the best there is Twice as african as krs is, who wanna test this"

Who else can think of lines like this?

"Getting in my way is like jumping in front of a car / breaking the sound barrier ? that means the car's in front of the horn / by the time you hear it blowing, it's too late to respond / by the time you feel it hit you, I'm gone"

"Try to visualize what Harry Houdini was feeling / handcuffed underwater without breathing / near death on a fatal quest for air / but why should anybody care? He put himself there / his career was based on facing his fears / to take destiny from the hand of the man upstairs / he didn't mind the cold stares he got from his peers / they couldn't tell him where he was going or how to get there / it's better to be prepared and fail than to be scared / and unsure of yourself and still get killed". "


"I?m above average with verbal semantics/ the Aurora Borealis in the form of a rap ballad/ they look at me like, ?poor bastard,/ why can?t you manipulate Billboard with all your metaphor magic"


The thing about lyricists is, you have to look deep into their lyrics and analyze their lines, and each time you listen to one of their songs, you will understand something you didnt know, maybe because you didnt know what a specific word meant, or that you just couldn't see "behind" the line. This is why I like lyricists as opposed to "non-lyricists".

I agree. Lyricists certainly have there place in hip hop and I have many lyricists on my play list but sometimes I don't want to hear about the metaphyiscs of the universe I want to hear a fluid flow thats genius in its simplicity and biggie could do that every time.

A repetitive loop
All I need to destroy a soloist or group
Huh, I put it to ya boy
Hope you got the scoop
Biggie Smalls, the rap genius
I keep the glock by the penis, the cleanest cut
Fvck the sluts with the big humongous butts
Huh, I use a rubber, but
My style is gushy like the hooker's pu$$y
And it don't take a lot of back talk to push me
Into flamin' 'em like that little n**ga Damien
glock 19 to my motherfuckin' cranium
Game tight, gun totin' motherfvcker
Niggaz in the grave thought Biggie was a sucker
I tricked 'em- I gave 'em work then I sticked 'em
I stripped 'em, cause niggaz don't want the friction
Told you before how I brings the dra-ma
Slam Larry Johnson and his Grandma-ma

"like the hookers pu$$y"

This is why I don't like Biggie. His content is just .. ugh, talking about hookers, getting his d1ck sucked, etc.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: JohnKimble

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: JohnKimble

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: JohnKimble
I hate saying RIP, especially with Biggie and Tupac because they are the most dickroden rap artists ever and even retards who dont know what real hip hop is will say "RIP Biggie".
If you say RIP to Biggie, why dont you say RIP to every other person that died this day, the next day, etc.

As for some rappers that are >> Biggie :

Nas
Rakim
Canibus
Common
GZA
Kool G Rap
Killah Priest
Ras Kass
Pharoahe Monche
Masta Ace
Black Thought
Mos Def
Talib Kweli

putting the biggest words in your rhymes doesnt = being the best rapper.

case in point.....canibus....incredibly talented lyrically but his flow...is a no go.

I know that putting huge ass words in your rhymes doesnt make you the better rapper (Nas > Canibus), but the way he just thinks, the way he puts together the rhymes, very very few can rhyme like that. I think as long as the words make sense, then its alright. There are lines where he doesn't use big lines, and those still outshine most artists.

"I'm sharper than scissor tips, sharper than rings on RZA's fist, its ridiculous"
"A hundred times nicer than the best there is Twice as african as krs is, who wanna test this"

Who else can think of lines like this?

"Getting in my way is like jumping in front of a car / breaking the sound barrier ? that means the car's in front of the horn / by the time you hear it blowing, it's too late to respond / by the time you feel it hit you, I'm gone"

"Try to visualize what Harry Houdini was feeling / handcuffed underwater without breathing / near death on a fatal quest for air / but why should anybody care? He put himself there / his career was based on facing his fears / to take destiny from the hand of the man upstairs / he didn't mind the cold stares he got from his peers / they couldn't tell him where he was going or how to get there / it's better to be prepared and fail than to be scared / and unsure of yourself and still get killed". "


"I?m above average with verbal semantics/ the Aurora Borealis in the form of a rap ballad/ they look at me like, ?poor bastard,/ why can?t you manipulate Billboard with all your metaphor magic"


The thing about lyricists is, you have to look deep into their lyrics and analyze their lines, and each time you listen to one of their songs, you will understand something you didnt know, maybe because you didnt know what a specific word meant, or that you just couldn't see "behind" the line. This is why I like lyricists as opposed to "non-lyricists".

I agree. Lyricists certainly have there place in hip hop and I have many lyricists on my play list but sometimes I don't want to hear about the metaphyiscs of the universe I want to hear a fluid flow thats genius in its simplicity and biggie could do that every time.

A repetitive loop
All I need to destroy a soloist or group
Huh, I put it to ya boy
Hope you got the scoop
Biggie Smalls, the rap genius
I keep the glock by the penis, the cleanest cut
Fvck the sluts with the big humongous butts
Huh, I use a rubber, but
My style is gushy like the hooker's pu$$y
And it don't take a lot of back talk to push me
Into flamin' 'em like that little n**ga Damien
glock 19 to my motherfuckin' cranium
Game tight, gun totin' motherfvcker
Niggaz in the grave thought Biggie was a sucker
I tricked 'em- I gave 'em work then I sticked 'em
I stripped 'em, cause niggaz don't want the friction
Told you before how I brings the dra-ma
Slam Larry Johnson and his Grandma-ma

"like the hookers pu$$y"

This is why I don't like Biggie. His content is just .. ugh, talking about hookers, getting his d1ck sucked, etc.

yeah some of his sh1t is played out...

 

[gigapet]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: JohnKimble

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: JohnKimble

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: JohnKimble
I hate saying RIP, especially with Biggie and Tupac because they are the most dickroden rap artists ever and even retards who dont know what real hip hop is will say "RIP Biggie".
If you say RIP to Biggie, why dont you say RIP to every other person that died this day, the next day, etc.

As for some rappers that are >> Biggie :

Nas
Rakim
Canibus
Common
GZA
Kool G Rap
Killah Priest
Ras Kass
Pharoahe Monche
Masta Ace
Black Thought
Mos Def
Talib Kweli

putting the biggest words in your rhymes doesnt = being the best rapper.

case in point.....canibus....incredibly talented lyrically but his flow...is a no go.

I know that putting huge ass words in your rhymes doesnt make you the better rapper (Nas > Canibus), but the way he just thinks, the way he puts together the rhymes, very very few can rhyme like that. I think as long as the words make sense, then its alright. There are lines where he doesn't use big lines, and those still outshine most artists.

"I'm sharper than scissor tips, sharper than rings on RZA's fist, its ridiculous"
"A hundred times nicer than the best there is Twice as african as krs is, who wanna test this"

Who else can think of lines like this?

"Getting in my way is like jumping in front of a car / breaking the sound barrier ? that means the car's in front of the horn / by the time you hear it blowing, it's too late to respond / by the time you feel it hit you, I'm gone"

"Try to visualize what Harry Houdini was feeling / handcuffed underwater without breathing / near death on a fatal quest for air / but why should anybody care? He put himself there / his career was based on facing his fears / to take destiny from the hand of the man upstairs / he didn't mind the cold stares he got from his peers / they couldn't tell him where he was going or how to get there / it's better to be prepared and fail than to be scared / and unsure of yourself and still get killed". "


"I?m above average with verbal semantics/ the Aurora Borealis in the form of a rap ballad/ they look at me like, ?poor bastard,/ why can?t you manipulate Billboard with all your metaphor magic"


The thing about lyricists is, you have to look deep into their lyrics and analyze their lines, and each time you listen to one of their songs, you will understand something you didnt know, maybe because you didnt know what a specific word meant, or that you just couldn't see "behind" the line. This is why I like lyricists as opposed to "non-lyricists".

I agree. Lyricists certainly have there place in hip hop and I have many lyricists on my play list but sometimes I don't want to hear about the metaphyiscs of the universe I want to hear a fluid flow thats genius in its simplicity and biggie could do that every time.

A repetitive loop
All I need to destroy a soloist or group
Huh, I put it to ya boy
Hope you got the scoop
Biggie Smalls, the rap genius
I keep the glock by the penis, the cleanest cut
Fvck the sluts with the big humongous butts
Huh, I use a rubber, but
My style is gushy like the hooker's pu$$y
And it don't take a lot of back talk to push me
Into flamin' 'em like that little n**ga Damien
glock 19 to my motherfuckin' cranium
Game tight, gun totin' motherfvcker
Niggaz in the grave thought Biggie was a sucker
I tricked 'em- I gave 'em work then I sticked 'em
I stripped 'em, cause niggaz don't want the friction
Told you before how I brings the dra-ma
Slam Larry Johnson and his Grandma-ma

"like the hookers pu$$y"

This is why I don't like Biggie. His content is just .. ugh, talking about hookers, getting his d1ck sucked, etc.

yeah some of his sh1t is played out...

its played out now cause so many other have come after him and completely ripped his style and its been forcefed to us.

 

[Superself]

Biggie gave it to you raw. He didn't rap about BS. He told his stories based on real life events. He didn't make anything up. He was graphic, sure, but why should he gloss over the story to make it more gentle to your stomach??
He sold records out of the back of a car in his community before he became a rap star. None of his peers or people in his neighborhood was going to buy his raps if he painted his world as some BS fairytale.

He kept it real and gave it to you as he saw it.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: swtethan

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: gigapet

Originally posted by: DougK62
I would have liked him a whole lot better if he had more musical ability. As far as rappers with talent go, Biggie was at the bottom of the barrel.

And I'm no rap hater.

ok now please give us the top 5 of musical ability.

"you know who are the top 5 rappers of all time......dylan, dylan, dylan, dylan and dylan."

(pronounced DIE-LIN)

"youre too close man" *choke*

how you gonna choke wyclef?

bahahahaha

hahaha you busted out the Dylan... man I'm cracking up here.

And did someone above compare the GZA and Killah Priest to Biggie? ROFL... Ghostface would run laps around those guys: the only better storyteller than Tony Starks in the modern era was Biggie. Yeah, I can name a bunch of underground cats who can spit too (like Apathy, Skillz, Cage, Papoose, Vakill, Mense) but comparing Biggie to GZA and K.Priest is hilarious. I bet even mainstream rappers like Beanie Sigel, Freeway, Cassidy, Kiss, or Busta would destroy those guys in a battle rap if you want LYRICS.

for B.I.

One of my fav verses of his, The Wickedest off a Mister Cee mixtape:

Biggie Smalls is the wickedest
Niggas say I'm p#ssy, I dare you to stick ya d!ck in this
If I was p#ssy I'd be filled with syphilis
Herpes, gonorrhea, chlamydia, getting rid'a ya
Got it locked like the penitentia-ree
Niggas mention me for MC execution
Who you choosin, the wack MC
Or the fat black MC
Jack Dempsey will start shaking
All it's taking, is some marijuana and I'm making
MCs break fast, like flap-jacks and bacon
Back spins, the windmills, who's still the gin-drinker
Ill-thinker, exploding when the paper hits the ink-ugh
Take the Gangster Chronicles, turn to page 6-6-6
Holocaust, B.I.G. the merciless...
Niggas press they luck-and
They get a butt-f#ckin
Straight up the ass
Raw dog with the rash...
And I don't f#ck with the condoms
The condoms is a problem from the AIDS getting sprayed
Diseases, B.I.G. pleases
MCs across the seas is just the way, I crush my prey, hey
I'm crazy and deranged
Blowing niggas out the frame, simple and plain
But gettin back to the black, rhinoceros of rap
B.I.G. took a loss, how preposterous is that

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: Sqube

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Are you comparing "Biggie" to Bob Dylan?

How about this, someone makes a thread about how sad it is that this is the anniversay of when Billy Ray Cyrus lost his mullet. I'd be one of the first to jump in and decry that thread as well.

Happy?

I'm not comparing Christopher Wallace to Bob Dylan in terms of musicianship, because most of the people in this thread are too close-minded to even acknowledge the possibility that people could respect and love CWallace the way that other people and love BDylan or the Beatles.

I merely made the observation that, all things being equal, the thread about Bob Dylan would not be treated the same way as this thread is being treated. It would be left to those who appreciate his music, and they would be allowed to discuss it. This is rap, so obviously there's a double-standard in effect here.

What's really interesting is that you're comparing the death of Notorious BIG to Billy Ray Cyrus losing his mullet. I don't give a fvck who you are or what you're talking about, that's incredibly disrespectful. And I'm not even talking about on a musical level; I'm talking about a basic human decency level.

But then again, we're talking about rappers. Maybe you think that a rapper dying and Cyrus losing his mullet are about as important, for all intents and purposes.

Hey, let's all talk about how great Linkin Park and Nickleback are! Oh yeah, any thread about them will simply boil down to "they suck." What about Fallout Boy? Oh yeah, useless emo garbage.

Notice how that works? Notice how it's not *just* rap that gets crapped on? I suppose you don't, as you'd rather play your self-indulgent victim card that claims that you and your beliefs are the only ones ever persecuted by the mean 'ol ATOT posters. :laugh:


You're right about one thing, comparing a murder to a mullet was not a valid analogy. Then again, I couldn't think of any mediocre country musicians who were gunned down due to retarded, childish, gang-related feuds. Imagine that...

 

[Legendary]

I always find that in these rap threads, rap proponents split into two groups: people who tend towards meaningful lyrics in the rap that they like, and they always come in professing their rappers lyrical prowess, and they're usually right. The other group is people who listen to rappers with better flow and beats, and they're also usually right. I'm not saying either group has a lesser appreciation of the other factors that make a great rapper, but it seems that people prefer either one or the other.
While I'm here, RIP Big.

 

[JohnKimble]

Originally posted by: Legendary
I always find that in these rap threads, rap proponents split into two groups: people who tend towards meaningful lyrics in the rap that they like, and they always come in professing their rappers lyrical prowess, and they're usually right. The other group is people who listen to rappers with better flow and beats, and they're also usually right. I'm not saying either group has a lesser appreciation of the other factors that make a great rapper, but it seems that people prefer either one or the other.
While I'm here, RIP Big.

Well, Rakim has the best flow, is one of the best lyricists (and THE original lyricist), and has tight beats. He has it all. Making him the GOAT, IMO.

 

[Dominionion]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: jbourne77
FFS no one gave a shyt then... why dig it up now?

Check out the painting of him I have in this picture here.

I have to ask... Is that hand lotion? On the right HAND side of the couch? In front of the TV?

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: Dominionion

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: jbourne77
FFS no one gave a shyt then... why dig it up now?

Check out the painting of him I have in this picture here.

I have to ask... Is that hand lotion? On the right HAND side of the couch? In front of the TV?

no ... it's actually behind the couch, and it's not hand lotion ... i use it for my whole body not just my hands.

 

[kogase]

Originally posted by: Dominionion

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: jbourne77
FFS no one gave a shyt then... why dig it up now?

Check out the painting of him I have in this picture here.

I have to ask... Is that hand lotion? On the right HAND side of the couch? In front of the TV?

It's probably body oil. Purbeast0 seems to be a gayboy, I don't think normal heterosexual men have greasy love portraits of big black men lying around their homes.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: Dominionion

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: jbourne77
FFS no one gave a shyt then... why dig it up now?

Check out the painting of him I have in this picture here.

I have to ask... Is that hand lotion? On the right HAND side of the couch? In front of the TV?

It's probably body oil. Purbeast0 seems to be a gayboy, I don't think normal heterosexual men have greasy love portraits of big black men lying around their homes.

:laugh:MFAO!!!

 

[Sqube]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Sqube

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Are you comparing "Biggie" to Bob Dylan?

How about this, someone makes a thread about how sad it is that this is the anniversay of when Billy Ray Cyrus lost his mullet. I'd be one of the first to jump in and decry that thread as well.

Happy?

I'm not comparing Christopher Wallace to Bob Dylan in terms of musicianship, because most of the people in this thread are too close-minded to even acknowledge the possibility that people could respect and love CWallace the way that other people and love BDylan or the Beatles.

I merely made the observation that, all things being equal, the thread about Bob Dylan would not be treated the same way as this thread is being treated. It would be left to those who appreciate his music, and they would be allowed to discuss it. This is rap, so obviously there's a double-standard in effect here.

What's really interesting is that you're comparing the death of Notorious BIG to Billy Ray Cyrus losing his mullet. I don't give a fvck who you are or what you're talking about, that's incredibly disrespectful. And I'm not even talking about on a musical level; I'm talking about a basic human decency level.

But then again, we're talking about rappers. Maybe you think that a rapper dying and Cyrus losing his mullet are about as important, for all intents and purposes.

Hey, let's all talk about how great Linkin Park and Nickleback are! Oh yeah, any thread about them will simply boil down to "they suck." What about Fallout Boy? Oh yeah, useless emo garbage.

Notice how that works? Notice how it's not *just* rap that gets crapped on? I suppose you don't, as you'd rather play your self-indulgent victim card that claims that you and your beliefs are the only ones ever persecuted by the mean 'ol ATOT posters. :laugh:


You're right about one thing, comparing a murder to a mullet was not a valid analogy. Then again, I couldn't think of any mediocre country musicians who were gunned down due to retarded, childish, gang-related feuds. Imagine that...

That's invalid because nobody's serious when they're making threads about Linkin Park or Nickleback.

Seriously speaking though, I wasn't trying to play a victim card or anything like that. Obviously perception is in the eyes of the beholder, but it just seems to me that rap threads generally tend to get more grief than any other type of musical thread.

If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong. I don't have any problem with admitting that. Like I'm saying, it just seems that it's impossible to make a rap thread without somebody crapping in it. I don't tend to go into Linkin Park or Nickleback threads, so I can't comment on what goes on in there.

For what it's worth, I agree with you that most rappers are dying due to retarded, childish, gang-related feuds. I just don't think it should've been compared to mullets is all I'm trying to say, and I don't really think that's a point to be argued.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: jbourne77
You're missing the point. No other music generates the hatred towards itself as much as rap does. It's not that EVERYONE ELSE is the problem. If country was as bad as rap, then people would be bashing country music as bad as they bash rap. If xxx music was as bad as rap, then people would be bashing xxx music as bad as they bash rap. You can replace any musical genre you like and in the end, rap seems to be the only genre that just flat-out isn't liked by so many, so blatantly. I'm saying... the odds that the entire rest of the music world have the problem while the subcommunity that is rap fans does not... it so ridiculously improbable that it makes my head hurt. Especially given the high moral fiber of all these remarkable "artists".

Couldn't agree more.

Please. People said the same thing when Rock and Roll became popular. Is death metal any better? Music has always pushed the envelope of acceptance. That's what makes it powerful.

The fact is that people don't hate rap as much as you would like to believe. Just look at Americas top 40 when you get a minute.

[/quote]

meh, biggies music has not lasted. he's no elvis..and he doesn't touch the beatles or michael jackson. those are musicians were truely great and have become part of the culture with many great songs and become known by all age groups. relatively few people know who "biggie" is, let alone his songs, which really weren't hits, let alone remember the tune or the words. really a minor figure in terms of music. we really only know of him because of the hubub over rappers shooting each other and his links to that pdiddy fellow..who also put out rather mediocre music and is mostly famous for being famous. couldn't even come up with an original song for his biggie tribute.

 

[Stuxnet]

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: Dominionion

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: jbourne77
FFS no one gave a shyt then... why dig it up now?

Check out the painting of him I have in this picture here.

I have to ask... Is that hand lotion? On the right HAND side of the couch? In front of the TV?

It's probably body oil. Purbeast0 seems to be a gayboy, I don't think normal heterosexual men have greasy love portraits of big black men lying around their homes.

LMFAO

If it weren't so inciting, I'd sig that in a heartbeat.

 

[thereaderrabbit]

Originally posted by: Accipiter22

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
what disease did he cure?

obesity

it's a shame his size made him such an easy target- otherwise he might be alive today.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
meh, biggies music has not lasted. he's no elvis..and he doesn't touch the beatles or michael jackson. those are musicians were truely great and have become part of the culture with many great songs and become known by all age groups. relatively few people know who "biggie" is, let alone his songs, which really weren't hits, let alone remember the tune or the words. really a minor figure in terms of music. we really only know of him because of the hubub over rappers shooting each other and his links to that pdiddy fellow..who also put out rather mediocre music and is mostly famous for being famous. couldn't even come up with an original song for his biggie tribute.

Sorry, but that is your view with all your bias included. Time will tell. For example, I know I'm a hell of a lot more likely to hear Juicy, which was written 12 or 13 years ago than Elvis (I?m wondering how can you compare Elvis to M Jackson or the Beatles).

I do agree that good music can be separated from mediocre music by the degree to which it lasts over time. However, if you use those criteria, he certainly qualifies as his music is as popular or more popular today than when he was alive. Perhaps just not in the circles you run in? Puffy would probably be the first to admit that most of his success comes from his business sense and discovering Biggie. He's an awful rapper.

 

[j00fek]

Originally posted by: joedrake

Originally posted by: jbourne77
FFS no one gave a shyt then... why dig it up now?

Because considering the rappers now a days, Biggie was the man. I know he's my personal favorite..

he was prob the best rapper of all time to me, everything today is sh!t. RIP nugga.

 

[bobbybe01]

Originally posted by: j00fek

Originally posted by: joedrake

Originally posted by: jbourne77
FFS no one gave a shyt then... why dig it up now?

Because considering the rappers now a days, Biggie was the man. I know he's my personal favorite..

he was prob the best rapper of all time to me, everything today is sh!t. RIP nugga.

Not even Tupac?