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Pontiac Rocks!!

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<< LMAO..



<< << She? hehe....

also, I must comment..

<< Just made a trip where a 75mph cruise got me 31mpg on 87 octane. >>



As if the octane rating has anything to do with his MPG.. >>



It doesn't, it's just Jap cars of equal performance must run premium fuel! >>



Huh? Are we talking about miles per gallon, or engine performance? I thought we were talking about MPG. Anyway..

Your statement just reaffirms the fact that you don't seem to have a very good understanding of how cars-- engines .. work. >>



I've probably built more motorcycle, and cars engines, than you have ever started! >>



I'm sorry, but those Revell/Monogram and Tamiya 1/24 scale model cars and model motorcycle kits DON'T COUNT!!!!!!
 


<< I'm sorry, but those Revell/Monogram and Tamiya 1/24 scale model cars and model motorcycle kits DON'T COUNT!!!!!! >>



ROTFLMAO!
 
NSF4...
I've always respected the fact that you are a member of the Anandtech heirarchy, but man...talk about setting yourself up with a comment like this 🙂


<< 3) Ass Rammed is a trademark of my roommate, Eric >>

 


<< NSF4...
I've always respected the fact that you are a member of the Anandtech heirarchy, but man...talk about setting yourself up with a comment like this 🙂


<< 3) Ass Rammed is a trademark of my roommate, Eric >>

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DOH!! Better edit that😛

He just likes to use that phrase on a daily basis; take for example:

"Damnit, I got ass-rammed on my pysch test"
"My car got ass-rammed today when that Protege ran into that Escort and threw it into my car (actually did happen).
 


<< long term the poorly engineered cheap Jap junks falls apart! >>



You need to get see Consumer Report's car issue. They rate long term quality. American cars always come out on the bottom...finally they have started getting their act together, but their build quality and reliability are nothing compared to Jap.
 


<< "Of course, that's just my opinion; I could be wrong. "


Yep, you are Wrong! >>



"Bikes Defy Gravity, [Domestic]Cars Just Suck "

Dude, give it up!! You got owned...maybe you and your Grand Prix can sit down and toast a glass of motor oil over a candle-lit table. Maybe afterwards you can rub some Bondo on its ass.
 
The domestic companies have come a long way in the last several years in terms of reliability and quality. They had little choice, it was so painfully obvious to any objective person that foreign cars were so vastly superior that it was 'change or die' for the Big Three.

Now, it is reported that the 'rate of in-production improvement' of domestic car makers is higher than the Japanese, which means identifying flaws and fixing them mid-production. Historically, domestic car manfucturers wouldn't even think about revising or improving their designs until a new model year, and many times they would wait until a whole new model change, allowing several years of cars to be produced with flaws they were AWARE of.

Still, domestics are slightly more 'flimsy' and 'cheap' in terms of interior and stuff like that, but when you're forced to pay high school drop-outs $17.00/hr to turn lug-nuts, you have to save money some where.
 
"Pontiac Rocks!!"

Have you looked at one over the past 5 or so years? If you can see past the styling of them, then more power to ya!
 


<< but when you're forced to pay high school drop-outs $17.00/hr to turn lug-nuts, you have to save money some where. >>




Honda does that too. In fact, about half of the people at the Ohio engine plant are temps.
 
The Mercedes-Benz plant is in Tuscaloosa, Alabama. There is a new Honda plant in Lincoln, Alabama. There is supposed to be some other factories here soon but who knows. That being said my american car runs great.
 
I can't even tell the difference in most Jap cars, they all look the same, bland, round, and boring.

The Pontiac has great styling, a bold front end, and looks fast even when it is just sitting still. If you don't like, then don't buy it.
 
We all know these guys love to bash Domestic Cars and would die for Nissan no matter what, no doubt about it.

We all know they were gonna bash the OP, just like when I posted a car comparision of the Maxima, Altima and GTP.

Screw nissan!
 


<< Notice that the other two American vehicles are TRUCKS!! That's the one thing that America RARELY gets wrong >>



Amen! I love my Dodge 2500 🙂

I hear that, they do everything a car does but also take on 10X more jobs and can do it while taking 1000X more of a beating at the same time 😀
 
There are some Nissan cars I like... well actually just basically the older Z's
 
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The styling is why I love Pontiac

You love horizontal lines and an imitation of the BMW front end?

It's kind of wierd, I come from a big city where it's fairly well-known that Pontiac is the bottom end of GM's lineup. People seem to forget that in rural areas. They worship Pontiac for some reason, and if you own a Grand Am GT, you are a GOD.

We all know these guys love to bash Domestic Cars and would die for Nissan no matter what, no doubt about it.

I have owned 14 GM cars, 1 Volkswagen, 1 Toyota, and 1 Nissan.

Guess what? The Nissan has more miles on it than any of my other cars ever had (160,000), and still runs and looks like new. It has never had a major problem. This is the case with almost every '91-'94 Nissan Sentra. My friend from Mexico City said they still use that car down there for taxis because it is ultra-reliable and lasts forever.

From my experience, the only GM cars I would even consider are Buicks with 3800 V6s.

I hear that, they do everything a car does but also take on 10X more jobs and can do it while taking 1000X more of a beating at the same time.

IMO trucks are a joke, they are fugly and are rarely used for their utilitarian reasons. I don't understand why so many people have them. So they can move their couch every couple of years?

Same with SUVs... But don't get me started on the Aztek. My side still hurts from the fit of laughter I had the first time I saw one.
 


<< From my experience, the only GM cars I would even consider are Buicks with 3800 V6s. >>

yeah, and guess what the pontiac bonneville uses?
 


<< Still, domestics are slightly more 'flimsy' and 'cheap' in terms of interior and stuff like that, but when you're forced to pay high school drop-outs $17.00/hr to turn lug-nuts, you have to save money some where. >>



That has nothing to do with why domestic designs use less than premium quality interior parts. Most of those domestically built imports are built with the same type of people. Have you taken a GM employment aptitude test? Your typical mentally challenged dropout will never pass it. Hell i have seen some local Community college students fail it miserably. The problems in GM Vehicles haven't in my opinion been in the quality of the assembly but in the quality of the engineering. No Matter how well it is built a poorly engineered design is still a poorly engineered design. It comes down to a corporate mentality that precludes teamwork at GM in particular. Engineers simply refuse to listen to anyone who is not an engineer. I work fo a tier one oem supplier to GM and I can't count the number of times i have detected flaws in new designs we were test building for GM on interior parts. Took us almost 2 years to get all the irritating bugs out a delphi seating design we inherited when we bought the delphi seating division. What a piece of crap. The concept was excellent the way they actually implemented it was moronic. Imagine a $30,000 car with a fricken zipper up the back of the front seat covers in plain view. We finally got them to take a change on that this year. Added a little to the cost but sure looks a hell of a lot better. When JDpower panned them on the zipper a couple years ago they actually had the nerve to blame us. It was their design and they wouldn't let us change it til this year. what idiots.
 
Why buy a Japanese car when there are so many better alternatives???

Heck if I were looking in the lower 20k range I would either go with a gti Jetta or Golf, or a nice Focus SVT and supercharge it for just under 20k...

No need to buy a boring Civic, Accord, or gawd...a Camry LOL family car...

But that is me, and I am not someone who would ever even consider a family sedan, my next purchase will either be a 2003 cobra or a Saleen 281.

Granted my current car is not all that fast (2000 SVT Contour) but it still isn't your run of the mill generic 4 door family sedan...and my 5.0 that I had before was anything but stock.

There are just some people which jap cars are totally unappealing, fortunately I am one of them 🙂 (but then again I wouldn't mind having a Supra, RX7 or NSX..but those are in a different league imho)
 


<< I can't even tell the difference in most Jap cars, they all look the same, bland, round, and boring.

The Pontiac has great styling, a bold front end, and looks fast even when it is just sitting still. If you don't like, then don't buy it. >>


You're right, people DON'T buy them. They buy Accords, Civics, Odysseys, and CRV's instead of Grand Prixs, Grand Ams, Montanas, and Azteks.

There's only but so much that people can take of thick body cladding, tacky exterior bits, cheap, grey plastic interiors and gawdy red dash instrumentation
 


<< The styling is why I love Pontiac, bold, and original, not a cookie cutter style like all the Jap's! >>



The only thing original about Pontiac's styling is how the plastic body parts look like they could fall off at any moment.
 
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