yes, well sex with an infertile partner doesn't produce children either. and homo doesn't equal anti-hetero.
I've seen more happy gay couples than I have hetero couples.
I think they should be allowed to adopt just like anyone else. They'd probably make better parents than most hetero couples.
I think they should be allowed to adopt just like anyone else. They'd probably make better parents than most hetero couples.
Homo is only as derogatory as the context it's in. Just like any other word.
exactly. parenting should be based on ability... i can think of quite a few people that i would rather stop from parenting before most gay couples that want to adopt.
Right. Infertile couples have already been established as not being able to have kids.
There's a certain psychological standpoint that a child grows up with if raised by a homosexual couple, and it's not healthy. It's not real.
nik
I myself would be worried about the child and his/her future rather than if the parents can adopt. Think about it. A lot of "normal" people in schools are already the victims of racism, violence, etc. Can you imagine what would happen if someone would find out that little Timmy has 2 dads and no moms? Bullying. Discrimination. Everything black people faced in the 40's and 50's and more.
So... homosexuality is better than heterosexuality? :Q Wow... I never knew I was so messed up... But... I WAS BORN WITH IT!
nik
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Right. Infertile couples have already been established as not being able to have kids.But it's <EM>natural</EM> for a heterosexual couple to have sexual relations and fail at having children because of a physical defect on either side. Being a homosexual isn't a physical defect, it's a mindset. Along with that mindset comes values and ethics that I sure as hell wouldn't want a child to be subjected to without first being brought up in a natural and proper environment after which he can decide for himself whether homosexuality is a crock of crap or buy into the bullsh!t about it being genetic.
There's a certain psychological standpoint that a child grows up with if raised by a homosexual couple, and it's not healthy. It's not real.
nik
do you make a habit out of talking as if your own opinions are truth?
oh and can you enlighten us as to what these values and ethics are?
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I think we all know the basics to human sexuality. You're entitled to your opinion of course, but its a pretty lame reasoning.
Why don't you tell us the real reasons you seem to think that any homosexual couple is un-worthy to raise a child.
I have a child, and I know of homosexuals(single and with life partners) that I would trust raising and caring for my son. There are also heterosexual persons (people in my own family in fact) that I wouldn't ever want raising my son.
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
So... homosexuality is better than heterosexuality? :Q Wow... I never knew I was so messed up... But... I WAS BORN WITH IT!
nik
For all you know, so were they.
Originally posted by: gopunk
do you make a habit out of talking as if your own opinions are truth?Originally posted by: ffmcobaltRight. Infertile couples have already been established as not being able to have kids.But it's natural for a heterosexual couple to have sexual relations and fail at having children because of a physical defect on either side. Being a homosexual isn't a physical defect, it's a mindset. Along with that mindset comes values and ethics that I sure as hell wouldn't want a child to be subjected to without first being brought up in a natural and proper environment after which he can decide for himself whether homosexuality is a crock of crap or buy into the bullsh!t about it being genetic. There's a certain psychological standpoint that a child grows up with if raised by a homosexual couple, and it's not healthy. It's not real. nik
You're asking me this!?
Originally posted by: pulse8
For all you know, so were they.Originally posted by: ffmcobaltSo... homosexuality is better than heterosexuality? :Q Wow... I never knew I was so messed up... But... I WAS BORN WITH IT!nik
Haha - it's never been proven, and it never will be.
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So... homosexuality is better than heterosexuality? :Q Wow... I never knew I was so messed up... But... I WAS BORN WITH IT!
I didn't say that.
I AM saying that puting a child in a loving, and solid home is better than bouncing them around from home to home every couple months to a year.
There is a "surplus" (terrible word to use) of children who need to be adopted. If a homosexual couple want to take on that responsibility and can do it as well, if not better than a heterosexual couple, more power to them and the child!
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: gopunk
do you make a habit out of talking as if your own opinions are truth?Originally posted by: ffmcobaltRight. Infertile couples have already been established as not being able to have kids.But it's <EM>natural</EM> for a heterosexual couple to have sexual relations and fail at having children because of a physical defect on either side. Being a homosexual isn't a physical defect, it's a mindset. Along with that mindset comes values and ethics that I sure as hell wouldn't want a child to be subjected to without first being brought up in a natural and proper environment after which he can decide for himself whether homosexuality is a crock of crap or buy into the bullsh!t about it being genetic. There's a certain psychological standpoint that a child grows up with if raised by a homosexual couple, and it's not healthy. It's not real. nik
You're asking <EM>me</EM> this!?
seriously though, what values and ethics are you referring to?
Originally posted by: pulse8
It's never been proven that it's not.
It's not possible to prove that it can't possibly be a physical thing - modern science does not fully understand human genes. But, it's not something that can be proven, either, IMNSHO. It's a dirty and unnatural lifestyle that someone who's mind is being molded doesn't need to be molded to!!!
nik
Originally posted by: gopunk
seriously though, what values and ethics are you referring to?Originally posted by: ffmcobaltYou're asking me this!?Originally posted by: gopunkdo you make a habit out of talking as if your own opinions are truth?Originally posted by: ffmcobaltRight. Infertile couples have already been established as not being able to have kids.But it's natural for a heterosexual couple to have sexual relations and fail at having children because of a physical defect on either side. Being a homosexual isn't a physical defect, it's a mindset. Along with that mindset comes values and ethics that I sure as hell wouldn't want a child to be subjected to without first being brought up in a natural and proper environment after which he can decide for himself whether homosexuality is a crock of crap or buy into the bullsh!t about it being genetic. There's a certain psychological standpoint that a child grows up with if raised by a homosexual couple, and it's not healthy. It's not real. nik
That being sexually interested in a man is okay. That being with a man is okay. That whatever you feel is the right thing to do. That right-and-wrong doesn't apply when it comes to sexuality. I could go on, but I have to run. My lunch is over with and it's back to training for today. :frown: I'll let you guys get back a "logical" conversation now
nik
No. I'm just saying that they would be the victims of descrimination as black kids had in schools in the 40's and 50's.
Do you actually know any gay men? What's this lifestyle you think they live? Do they all just have big unprotected orgys? Spreading disease around our nation? Where have you gotten your gay lifestyle information from? Have you ever been to a gay bar? Have you ever hung out with gay people?
Homosexuality occurs in animals other than humans. Im not sure what you use to define "unnatural" but its not exclusive to humans who have free-will. As to dirty? I think thats quite subjective.
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