Russians are also asians....
And as an Indian ... I am asian by origins... which seems to be very confusing to lots of people here in the states.....
But indians are middle eastern, iraq/iran/etc.... would be near-eastern, and chinese/korean/etc.. far-eastern... and all are asian by definition....
And as an Indian ... I am asian by origins... which seems to be very confusing to lots of people here in the states.....
But indians are middle eastern, iraq/iran/etc.... would be near-eastern, and chinese/korean/etc.. far-eastern... and all are asian by definition....
I agree. The rest of you are confusing ethnic labels with geographical labels.
Using the logic of others, one could say Canadians were American. We all know that Americans are better than that.
j/k
I also consider Canadians and Mexicans to be "American" too, "North American", that is.
I think the true factor here is we, as Americans are so "arrogant/ignorant" (used loosely now for lack of better words), that we group "Asians" and "Africans" by their continent and not their country respectively. It's actually quite sad imo.
Here's an example which I'm sure not everyone will relate too, but is some of the reasoning behind my comment:
I'm Chinese, and my grandfather simple detests being "Asian" because it also groups other countries such as Japan who in HIS time invaded his village in China, etc... I think we should just call ppl by their country. I think people deserve at least that.
It's not a Nigerian's person's fault we don't know the name of his country so we just group him as African.
my $.02
I think the true factor here is we, as Americans are so "arrogant/ignorant" (used loosely now for lack of better words), that we group "Asians" and "Africans" by their continent and not their country respectively. It's actually quite sad imo.
Here's an example which I'm sure not everyone will relate too, but is some of the reasoning behind my comment:
I'm Chinese, and my grandfather simple detests being "Asian" because it also groups other countries such as Japan who in HIS time invaded his village in China, etc... I think we should just call ppl by their country. I think people deserve at least that.
It's not a Nigerian's person's fault we don't know the name of his country so we just group him as African.
my $.02
I think it'd be hard to identify an individual by country as I probably won't be able to tell a person who's from Nigeria or Niger. I'm Chinese as well, but sometimes it's hard to tell if a person is Taiwanese or Mainland Chinese or Hong Kong Chinese.
I'm Indian, but there is not much about me that is culturally Indian. I'm from Trinidad. Indians went there as indentured laborers some time in the 1800s, just like Europeans came to N America in the 1700s. But anyway, I don't consider Indians to be "Asian" because when I hear "Asian" I think narrow eyes, yellow skin, and spiky pink hair 
. There is very little that Indians have in common with "Orientals", and racially they are caucasian. I think it's ludicrous to group people by continent rather than by culture.
. There is very little that Indians have in common with "Orientals", and racially they are caucasian. I think it's ludicrous to group people by continent rather than by culture.Your sig isn't entirely true. It should read "If God didn't design it, an artist designed it, an engineer made it work".
They have caucasian DNA. There is not much difference between races though, and there is apparently more genetic variation within a race than between races. If you're going to group people, group them by culture, which actually matters.
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Racially and linguistically, Indians are caucasian and have more in common with people of European heritage than do (for example) the Chinese/Korean/Japanese peoples.
Personally, I consider Indians to be... Indians.
edit: From encarta.com
"In about 1500 bc the Aryans, a nomadic people from Central Asia, settled in the upper reaches of the Indus, Yamuna, and Gangetic plains. They spoke a language from the Indo-European family and worshiped gods similar to those of later-era Greeks and northern Europeans. The Aryans are particularly important to Indian history because they originated the earliest forms of the sacred Vedas (orally transmitted texts of hymns of devotion to the gods, manuals of sacrifice for their worship, and philosophical speculation). By 800 bc the Aryans ruled in most of northern India, occasionally fighting among themselves or with the peoples of the land they were settling. There is no evidence of what happened to the people displaced by the Aryans. In fact they may not have been displaced at all but instead may have been incorporated in Aryan culture or left alone in the hills of northern India."
Personally, I consider Indians to be... Indians.
edit: From encarta.com
"In about 1500 bc the Aryans, a nomadic people from Central Asia, settled in the upper reaches of the Indus, Yamuna, and Gangetic plains. They spoke a language from the Indo-European family and worshiped gods similar to those of later-era Greeks and northern Europeans. The Aryans are particularly important to Indian history because they originated the earliest forms of the sacred Vedas (orally transmitted texts of hymns of devotion to the gods, manuals of sacrifice for their worship, and philosophical speculation). By 800 bc the Aryans ruled in most of northern India, occasionally fighting among themselves or with the peoples of the land they were settling. There is no evidence of what happened to the people displaced by the Aryans. In fact they may not have been displaced at all but instead may have been incorporated in Aryan culture or left alone in the hills of northern India."
Partially true, but not for everything. Surely an artist would have a hand in the outside appearance of a car, but forsomething like a dam or an industrial robot, I'd say that's pretty much all engineer.
Dams have to look good. I'd bet architects help design those. Industrial robots you're right. But still, most of what you see in public is artistically influenced.
You do realize that there a lot of countries in Africa. If you expect an American to group Africans by their country, do you also expect Africans to group Americans by the state in which they live? Of course not.
I, as an American, am not "arrogant/ignorant. Speak for yourself.
tahtz not the point
A nigerian is much more different than a south african or a kenyan, when compared to how different a texan is from a iowan or californian
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