Poll: Do you care about ray tracing / upscaling?

[igor_kavinski]

I wonder if the 1080 Ti's weak shader based raytracing can manage 1080p Low @ 30 fps...

Found out just now that there's an RTX demo that is supposedly "smooth" on 1080 Ti: https://www.techpowerup.com/download/justice-geforce-rtx-raytracing-tech-demo/

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I wonder if the 1080 Ti's weak shader based raytracing can manage 1080p Low @ 30 fps...

Found out just now that there's an RTX demo that is supposedly "smooth" on 1080 Ti: https://www.techpowerup.com/download/justice-geforce-rtx-raytracing-tech-demo/

Doesn't matter does it? Indy and now Doom are cutting it off.

 

[poke01]

Doesn't matter does it? Indy and now Doom are cutting it off.

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And no FF7 Rebirth too. I guess everything is finally being developed around PS5 and XboxSS.

Funny thing is the switch 2 will be able to run Doom and FF. 🤣🤣oh and the steam deck too

 

[SolidQ]

Doesn't matter does it? Indy and now Doom are cutting it off.

But ubisoft can do it!

 

[DAPUNISHER]

But ubisoft can do it!

Another late DOA game. Gamers be like - "HOORAY! My old GTX will work in a game I don't want to play. FML!"

 

[SolidQ]

Another late DOA game.

interesting no 7900 series in extended RT, but
The PS5 Pro version of Assassin's Creed Shadows will feature:
Advanced ray tracing technology, including RTGI, for more realistic lighting, reflections, and shadows

 

[DAPUNISHER]

interesting no 7900 series in extended RT

Performance would not meet the 60fps requirement?

The PS5 Pro version of Assassin's Creed Shadows will feature:
Advanced ray tracing technology, including RTGI, for more realistic lighting, reflections, and shadows

Console = oranges PC = Apples

One last potshot at the game: "more realistic lighting, reflections, and shadows" At least something will be realistic.

 

[Ranulf]

I'd kinda forgot that game was coming out next month after the delay last year.

Specs are an odd thing these days. Always have been I guess but lately, devs are just wonko at times. I played Icarus (survival game) a few months back on a free weekend. It wants an i5 8400 as min cpu but a gtx 1060 for gpu. The game ran fine on my 4790k with the 2060Super. But then Helldivers2 wants the 4790k as min spec and the game definately is held back by my 4790k when I play it.

A Doom game going this RT route surprises me.

 

[igor_kavinski]

A Doom game going this RT route surprises me.

Their decision definitely must've been influenced by optimizing raytracing for PS5 and PS5 Pro. Once they laid the foundation and liked the results, supporting RDNA2 must've seemed like a natural progression since the PS5's GPU is said to be a plain RX 6700.

 

[jpiniero]

A Doom game going this RT route surprises me.

The 2060 is over 6 years old now.

 

[dlerious]

And no FF7 Rebirth too. I guess everything is finally being developed around PS5 and XboxSS.

Funny thing is the switch 2 will be able to run Doom and FF. 🤣🤣oh and the steam deck too

Interesting story on Ars about game developers.

Way more game makers are working on PC titles than ever, survey says

80 percent of game devs are working on a PC project, up from 66 percent last year.

arstechnica.com

 

[SolidQ]

Interesting discussion, and there another posts MSAA/Upscaling etc

https://twitter.com/x/status/1884278821278605767

 

[SolidQ]

Spider Man 2 RTX 3090

7900XTX

not bad results for XTX

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Bruh, time stamp past in video commercials please and thank you.

A lot of reports of crashing on Nvidia. Happen to Pedro in the middle of his 5090 testing. Time stamped

I always turn down any shadows settings to medium. They are a performance killer with little visual benefit, at least for my tastes in the games I've played. I don't know which model is being tested there, it's hitting 460w. My Pulse caps out around the reference 355w on the silent bios. RTAO is another I don't leave maxed in games. I would crank the RT reflections to 10 though, as in Miles Morales they have the best visual to performance cost IMO.

 

[SolidQ]

A lot of reports of crashing on Nvidia.

Yeah only on NV is crashing, but a lot trolls(or NV pr guys) on steam, saying on AMD every game crashing.
sometime hit near 60 fps on 5090 with DLLSQ. From you 3k$ (c) Huang

I would crank the RT reflections

People report reflection is big hit in SM2, other RT effect minor hit.

 

[WelshBloke]

Doom Dark Ages Requirements:

RT required, 8core cpus minimum. 8GB vram for 1080p 60fps low.

DOOM: The Dark Ages Requires RT. Release Date, PC System Requirements, and New Gameplay Trailer Revealed

The time draws near to Reign in Hell when DOOM: The Dark Ages releases May 15, 2025, on Game Pass, Xbox Series X|S, PlayStation 5 and PC. Preorder your copy today! For PC players, check that your setup is battle-ready by consulting our PC Requirements below, including listings for Minimum...

www.techpowerup.com

Technically I should be fine at 3220x1440 ultra looking at that. I wasn't so keen on Doom Eternal, it was a bit too 'modify this weapon, do a glory kill to replenish your ammo'.
I just want to shoot things and not think about it when playing Doom, but apparently this is going back to that!

I'm willing to bet that id do RT that doesn't bring your system to its knees as well!

 

[DAPUNISHER]

People report reflection is big hit in SM2, other RT effect minor hit.

I would need to know what CPU the whingers are using, as RT in Spiderman games will crush most CPUs.

 

[Ranulf]

Threat Interactive is back, offering a critque of LTT on Ray tracing and optimization.

 

[DrMrLordX]

I'm willing to bet that id do RT that doesn't bring your system to its knees as well!

Is there no raster support in the game at all? Like, can you disable RT while playing it?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Tim is turning into Alex from DF. He is pixel peeping RTX with 300% zoom again -

You can tell he reads the criticisms of his work. It has become a meme at this point, how they pimp each generation, then when the new gen hits, they show you how trash last gen was. This time he talks about how all of his issues with the IQ still aren't fixed.

 

[SolidQ]

He is pixel peeping RTX with 300% zoom again

Always was useless for me 3-10x zoom, 25% speed

how they pimp each generation, then when the new gen hits, they show you how trash last gen was.

Be sure next gen, gonna be also micro details comparision. Seriously most people should stop those zoom/speed comparisions, because in real gameplay you won't notice those micro details.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Always was useless for me 3-10x zoom, 25% speed. Be sure next gen, gonna be also micro details comparisons. Seriously most people should stop those zoom/speed comparisons, because in real gameplay you won't notice those micro details.

Some gamers do, but I think it is where's Waldo syndrome. I.E. They are actively looking for it.

I was commenting elsewhere OG Crysis was the first big game designed for future hardware targets. Spawning the can it run Crysis meme. Now all restaurants are Taco Bell. In that almost every AAA game is so demanding most gamers will only be maxing out visuals years down the road when they revisit the games. Or finally get to them because they are dirt cheap or in their backlog libraries.

 

[Ranulf]

You can tell he reads the criticisms of his work. It has become a meme at this point, how they pimp each generation, then when the new gen hits, they show you how trash last gen was. This time he talks about how all of his issues with the IQ still aren't fixed.

He does get more annoying every year it seems.

Now all restaurants are Taco Bell. In that almost every AAA game is so demanding most gamers will only be maxing out visuals years down the road when they revisit the games. Or finally get to them because they are dirt cheap or in their backlog libraries.

I have a friend who still wants nvidia because RT and cyberpunk. He loves the game at least but is still on a gtx card. He'll probably be on his 3rd or 4th play through by the time he gets a new card.

 

[CakeMonster]

Pixel peeping is great, but everyone who does it needs to increasingly compare screenshots in motion.

 

[marees]

The 2060 is over 6 years old now.

Can 2060 play RT games ? (In practice & not in theory)