Poll: Do you care about ray tracing / upscaling?

[SolidQ]

lulz good stuff -

in 1080p ok you can find difference, but i don't understand how people find difference in 4k

 

[marees]

RT useless on handhelds, except PT (ex: Minecraft)

 

[DAPUNISHER]

LULZ it's all upscaling and fake frames now.

 

[marees]

LULZ it's all upscaling and fake frames now.

 

[Ranulf]

LULZ it's all upscaling and fake frames now.

At least the AI will help make funny memes or something.

 

[coercitiv]

FFFFRAMES!

There we go, nicely interpolated and so smooth it rolls of the tongue

 

[poke01]

Users with a RTX card or information relating to it, please post DLSS4 transformer models improvements here.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

FSR4 is going to be "good enough"

 

[poke01]

FSR4 is going to be "good enough"

I wonder if it’s using Transformer models like DLSS4. Even if it’s not it’s a massive improvement over FSR 3.1

 

[Ranulf]

This probably belongs best in this thread than the new nvidia or amd cards/tech. Daniel Owen talks about DLSS and FSR meaning different things. Namely, he's getting called out (and other youtubers) as an AMD shill for talking up FSR4 but not DLSS4 or something.

Upscaling vs Frame Generation essentially. Oh, and Mr. Owen doesn't like the term "fake frames", heh. Marketing vaguery is fun, right?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Userbenchmark entered the chat. That place is the world's biggest copium den.

 

[poke01]

No one’s hating on DLSS4 upscaling rather people hate MFG on online forums/Twitter. This upscaling part of DLSS4 also works on all RTX cards which everyone is happy about.

AI based upscaling is 100% good IMHO. I’m happy that AMD is doing AI upscaling now means that Nvidia also has to improve their own upscaling. I bet Nvidia moved to Transformer model upscaling because of rumours of AMD having AI FSR for RDNA4.

 

[CakeMonster]

This probably belongs best in this thread than the new nvidia or amd cards/tech. Daniel Owen talks about DLSS and FSR meaning different things. Namely, he's getting called out (and other youtubers) as an AMD shill for talking up FSR4 but not DLSS4 or something.

Upscaling vs Frame Generation essentially. Oh, and Mr. Owen doesn't like the term "fake frames", heh. Marketing vaguery is fun, right?

I basically agree with his take. DLSS2 upscaling has gotten good enough with a minimum of 1080 input resolution, preferably 1440 (4K Quality). While FG has latency issues no matter how much it manages to improve quality (which is also dubious so far). I won't deny that FG latency might a bit be less of an issue if you already have an minimum input of 120fps++ always, but that's hardly an alternative for anyone yet.

 

[dlerious]

 

[Ranulf]

Wow, I'm excited for MSI circles. Marketing circles, round and round we go. Why, its the circle of life.

 

[poke01]

Only brands I buy from are ZOTAC and Inno 3D, they are just as good and cheaper. I don’t buy from Taiwan brands like ASUS, MSI or gigabyte. they got too greedy.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Only brands I buy from are ZOTAC and Inno 3D

I find Inno3D is a bit more expensive than Zotac in UAE. Same for you?

 

[poke01]

I find Inno3D is a bit more expensive than Zotac in UAE. Same for you?

Inno3D is cheaper in Australia

 

[SolidQ]

Kingdom Come 2 no RT. As wee see, possible to get beautiful graphic without RT

 

[poke01]

Kingdom Come 2 no RT. As wee see, possible to get beautiful graphic without RT

This game uses Voxel cone tracing instead of ray tracing for global illumination. These devs are really smart.

This is an NV paper from 2011 talking about this method. It doesn’t require RT hardware.

https://research.nvidia.com/sites/default/files/publications/GIVoxels-pg2011-authors.pdf

It was tested on a GTX 480!!!

 

[SolidQ]

These devs are really smart.

that nice. Here preview perf

 

[DAPUNISHER]

This game uses Voxel cone tracing instead of ray tracing for global illumination.

That's pretty neat stuff


https://wickedengine.net/2017/08/voxel-based-global-illumination/

 

[SolidQ]

That's pretty neat stuff

Lost technologies of the ancients.

 

[Ranulf]

LTT weighs in...on fake frames.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

TLDW =

Normies can't tell the difference
Most never change game settings and DLSS is starting to be on by default
He posits it explains why Nv stats are that 80% of owners use DLSS
There are ways of using FG that are low latency. Not enough for competitive shooters of course
And a lot of Nvidia glazing