<< I dunno, I sorta like the fact that I can move Word and PDF files back and forth to read on my Ipaq >>
Me too! Except I do it on my Palm!
You DO know that there is Palm software that does this, don't you?
<< I dunno, I sorta like the fact that I can move Word and PDF files back and forth to read on my Ipaq >>
Me too! Except I do it on my Palm!
You DO know that there is Palm software that does this, don't you?
OS
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<< As about battery life, sure it is less than a Palm, but then Palm is nothing but a glorified organizer. It is like comparing a base Sharp/Casio 20$ organizer to the Palm. These 20$ organizers have most of the functionaly which an average Palm user uses and has like zillion times more battery life than a Palm, but are they comparable? Hell no. >>
Hahahahaha, yeah I know, this battery life issue is being blown way out of proportion.
Longer battery life does not automatically mean a superior overall product.
Anyone who is so concerned with battery life should go buy themselves a sharp memomaster, I still have one from 5 years ago and I haven't had to replace the battery yet.
By potatosalad's own logic, since a memomaster has a 7 year battery life, it's superior to the palm, hahahahahaha
<< By potatosalad's own logic, since a memomaster has a 7 year battery life, it's superior to the palm, hahahahahaha
>>How large is the Memomaster's software library?
How many manufacturers are making Memomaster units and accessories?
How large is the Memomaster's market share?
These facts are collectively referred to as support for the brand. You want to buy the unit with the best support if you know what is good for you.
This is my take. About 1.5 years ago when I got my palm Vx I was considering a pocket pc, but I didn't like the size nor did I like the OS itself. Now if I were considering a handheld today I would be leaning towards a pocket pc because the new OS is very nice and I would be willing to sacrifice size for the extra functionality. Imo the reason palm has more of the market is prob the same reason intel has more market in the pc area. Business people who buy most of the handhelds want something that is super solid stable, they don't have time for downtime or anything.. I am not saying that palms are a LOT more stable just saying that they are more stable. But the pocket pc does have more functionality and performance like amd does in comparison to intel. I think you should get the IPAQ and update it to 2002.
potatosalad
Win9x is the most widely used os out there and it has the best support out there to, still it doesnt make it the best os.
Win9x is the most widely used os out there and it has the best support out there to, still it doesnt make it the best os.
<< potatosalad
Win9x is the most widely used os out there and it has the best support out there to, still it doesnt make it the best os. >>
For most people, for most purposes, it does actually.
<<
<< potatosalad
Win9x is the most widely used os out there and it has the best support out there to, still it doesnt make it the best os. >>
For most people, for most purposes, it does actually. >>
Thats because those people dont know any better, what they need is basic functionality like word, solitare and ie, but when you compare it with the rest of the os's out there its utter crap though it suits most people for basic needs. Exactly what a palm does.
<< Thats because those people dont know any better >>
For me, it's because Win9x has the largest driver library and the largest game library out there.
Linux is catching up in the driver department, and Win2k/XP is catching up in the game department, but neither is quite there yet.
This is what I mean by support.
And Palm has the exact same excellent support that Win9x has. It is the king of the hill.
Unless your running 4-5+ year old games(or anything in the NFS series), then 2k/XP has all the game support of 9x, just a few frames slower (Unless you're on a Radeon like me )
Doesn't have anything to do with the thread, just felt like beating on the troll
(Unless you're on a Radeon like me )Doesn't have anything to do with the thread, just felt like beating on the troll
<< Unless your running 4-5+ year old games(or anything in the NFS series) >>
I do.
And what's funniest is Linux runs those games better than 2k/XP! (Using DOSEmu!)
<< What can a Microsoft contraption do that a Palm cannot? >>
You are an ignoramus.
Dude, the Ipaq basically runs Windows, meaning anything we can use on our actual PC can be run by an Ipaq (well, within reason. You're not gonna be doing any Adobe Premier or Photoshop on your PDA) It's integration of video and MP3 is much smoother than that of a Palm.
I have a Palm myself and I have played on my friend's 3635 and I can say that anything that runs PPC is superiour to Palm in terms of features. I foresee that PPC will overtake Palm in a few years because of it's advanced multimedia features. It's a true handheld computer
And STOP TALKING ABOUT BATTERY LIFE!. Can you honestly tell me a good reason for having something that runs for a month? Do we not go HOME at the end of the day and do we not sleep?! Why can't you just drop the PDA in the cradle and have it charge?! Geez...battery life is NOT AN ISSUE when looking for a PDA unless something truly does only run for 3 hours. The Ipaq lasts 12 hours at normal usage which is perfectly fine for any normal person.
Palm has more software because they have been around longer than PPC. However, as people feel the need for more features, PPC will take over. It is very easy to write software for PPC simply because it's basically Windows.
Personally, I would buy a Ipaq over a Palm anyday. However, I bought a S320 only because I'm in the market for a laptop which will do all the things that an Ipaq can do and because the Palms are cheaper.
PPC is superiour in features and the technology used to build it and it's supported handhelds is more advanced than what Palm has in it's development. Unless Palm shapes up soon, they'll be synonomus with "low-end" in awhile.
<< Thanks you LittleWolf and RoninRXN, the ignorance running around is so thick that you can cut it with a knife
>>No problem. I hate it when people don't like things simply because they're from Microsoft. PPC is better and will thrive in the future while Palm has to pull up their socks and develop something that doesn't look so 90s.
this silver CF sleeve that everyone is talking about. is it really worth the extra money compared to the packed in CF expansion that comes with the 3635? anybody got pix on it?
czar, those pictures of your 3635. that black sleeve is the one that came with the 3635 right?
btw, i was looking to buy a palm a few weeks ago. it's much easier to put your class syllabus in one organizer and have it readily available than dig through months of paper. but i've always thought the ipaq was cool except for the price. but you can grab one in hot deals for around 210 after rebate so i figured why not? a palm is cool and convenient but an ipaq is that and MUCH MUCH more. for those who are anti-ipaq, why are you so close minded? if you only buy things based on bare neccessities then where is the fun in having the extras?
czar, those pictures of your 3635. that black sleeve is the one that came with the 3635 right?
btw, i was looking to buy a palm a few weeks ago. it's much easier to put your class syllabus in one organizer and have it readily available than dig through months of paper. but i've always thought the ipaq was cool except for the price. but you can grab one in hot deals for around 210 after rebate so i figured why not? a palm is cool and convenient but an ipaq is that and MUCH MUCH more. for those who are anti-ipaq, why are you so close minded? if you only buy things based on bare neccessities then where is the fun in having the extras?
Wow, I didnt expect this many replies to the thread! It looks like this is going to be a harder decision than I thought. Like RossMAN said earlier its pretty tough to compare the two devices, both are more than adequate at PIM tasks, but to me it comes down to a couple of things, PRICE, and the features that I want (MP3 playback, color screen).
In terms of price, PPC devices are starting to come out of the stratosphere, especially with all the IPAQ 3635 deals abounding, but if you start adding up the prices of the accessories that you'll need, it starts to get expensive. I really want the 3760 though, I feel that anything less at this point is not going to provide enough upgradability for the future, at least from a FLASH RAM perspective. The IPAQ 3635 is already limited in that to upgrade to PocketPC 2002 you have to load some of the features into the ROM since it only has a 16MB Flash RAM.
The problem is that IPAQ prices arent going down, in fact if you followed the 3635 from when it was released, it was rarely discounted, only now it has come down in price because its outdated, in a manner of speaking. So I doubt I'm gonna be able to find a good deal on the 3760 or even the 3850 even a year from now. The 3850 is really my ideal device, since it has built in expandability without any sort of expansion pack, maybe I should look at the new Toshiba device, it has a built in CF slot.
--Ben
In terms of price, PPC devices are starting to come out of the stratosphere, especially with all the IPAQ 3635 deals abounding, but if you start adding up the prices of the accessories that you'll need, it starts to get expensive. I really want the 3760 though, I feel that anything less at this point is not going to provide enough upgradability for the future, at least from a FLASH RAM perspective. The IPAQ 3635 is already limited in that to upgrade to PocketPC 2002 you have to load some of the features into the ROM since it only has a 16MB Flash RAM.
The problem is that IPAQ prices arent going down, in fact if you followed the 3635 from when it was released, it was rarely discounted, only now it has come down in price because its outdated, in a manner of speaking. So I doubt I'm gonna be able to find a good deal on the 3760 or even the 3850 even a year from now. The 3850 is really my ideal device, since it has built in expandability without any sort of expansion pack, maybe I should look at the new Toshiba device, it has a built in CF slot.
--Ben
<< Dude, the Ipaq basically runs Windows >>
Pocket PCs run an OS called Windows CE, which have absolutely nothing to do with Windows 9x nor Windows NT. It just has a similar name.
If Palm renames their OS from PalmOS to PalmWindows, will you say that Palm runs Windows too?
What a joke!
NFS4
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<< Dude, the Ipaq basically runs Windows >>
Pocket PCs run an OS called Windows CE, which have absolutely nothing to do with Windows 9x nor Windows NT. It just has a similar name.
If Palm renames their OS from PalmOS to PalmWindows, will you say that Palm runs Windows too?
What a joke! >>
What he means is that since it runs a Microsoft OS, a lot of the files are interchangeable without conversion. i.e., spreadsheet files, word documents, powerpoint presentations, etc. Terminal services, Corporate networking, dialup networking, etc. are also easy to setup b/c of the common family structure.
Hoeboy, yeah its the basic sleeve, its just a blastic holster realy.
potatosalad, have you tried a ppc or even mighty have you owned one? and if so, what version was it?
potatosalad, have you tried a ppc or even mighty have you owned one? and if so, what version was it?
<< What he means is that since it runs a Microsoft OS, a lot of the files are interchangeable without conversion. i.e., spreadsheet files, word documents, powerpoint presentations, etc. Terminal services, Corporate networking, dialup networking, etc. are also easy to setup b/c of the common family structure. >>
You can do each and every one of these things on a Palm as well.
NFS4
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<< And STOP TALKING ABOUT BATTERY LIFE!. >>
3 hrs vs. 2 months, kind of hard to ignore. >>
Do you know what you are talking about?? Which PocketPC gave you three hours?? Which ones have you used??
Tell me which Palm can get 2 months of CONTINUOUS USES.
PocketPCs get between 12 and 14 hours of CONTINUOUS USE.
Back up your statements with FACTS or else STHU
<< PocketPCs get between 12 and 14 hours of CONTINUOUS USE. >>
Someone earlier in the thread quoted 4 hrs.
Look back through the earlier posts. I am not the only one claiming this.
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