PocketPC vs Palm benefits/drawbacks of either one? I need help deciding on a PDA.

[potatosalad]

<< 1) Wake up at 7:00 AM
2) Place iPAQ in sync cradle to update PocketMoney 2002, files, and Avantgo while CHARGING!!!!!!!!!!!
3) Go to class at either 9:10 or 8:05 depending on the day.
4) Read Avantgo before/during class (whichever is more boring/slow).
5) Take down notes/assignment due dates while in class
6) Come back to the room after class (or after lunch) and place iPAQ in cradle so that in can sync with Avantgo and CHARGE
7) Go back to class, and yadda yadda.
8) Come back to room after my day is over and throw iPAQ back in the cradle where it syncs and CHARGES
9) Before finally going to sleep, I'll sit in bed and read articles/avantgo. >>



Which one of these tasks do you need a Microsoft contraption for?

You can do all of these with a Palm!

When I go visit the parents for a week, or stay at my girlfriend's for a few days, or whatever else, I don't want to have to lug around a bag full of PDA, minimum two sets of batteries, charger, adapter, etc, etc. I just put my Palm in my pocket and I AM ALL SET FOR TWO MONTHS.

Can you say that about your Microsoft contraption?

Ha!

 

[Czar]

Palm is like the diet coke of coke.

Palm is the LITE version of what a handheld computer can do while PPC's are like the PRO versions. Sure the lite version can suit your needs but the pro version has so much much more.

 

[NFS4]

<< If you want to watch videos on the road, TAKE YOUR NOTEBOOK WITH YOU. A PDA was never meant to watch videos on! It doesn't have enough storage, screen real estate, nor CPU! You will get a tiny postage stamp 5 frames per second mess! >>


I'm sorry, but take your foot out of your mouth. We aren't talking Palms here that do friggin' 5 FPS video playback. My iPAQ can play back FULL LENGTH DIVX movies at 25 FPS in full color and FULL SPEED w/AUDIO when placed on my 256MB CompactFlash card. No need for a hulking laptop when I can strap on my headphones, sit back and watch Batman (my favorite movie) with my iPAQ in my hand.


<< Which one of these tasks do you need a Microsoft contraption for?

You can do all of these with a Palm!

When I go visit the parents for a week, or stay at my girlfriend's for a few days, or whatever else, I don't want to have to lug around a bag full of PDA, minimum two sets of batteries, charger, adapter, etc, etc. I just put my Palm in my pocket and I AM ALL SET FOR TWO MONTHS.

Can you say that about your Microsoft contraption? >>


Did you buy my iPAQ?? No, quit yer whining. It isn't your money. And I don't have a whole gaggle of batteries, chargers. Do you know ANYTHING about PocketPC's??? The iPAQ's battery is built in. As far as charging, this is all I have:

At Home: USB Cradle w/ac power hooked to my dad's computer.
At School: USB sync and charge cable which syncs the iPAQ while charging.

THAT'S IT

And besides, I like using my iPAQ for OTHER THINGS besides PIM management. I listen to MP3's on the way to class. I can play flight sims, and games like SimCity 2000, Turjah, ChopperAlley, etc.

I can play back streaming .asf files, along with MPG, AVI, and WMV. I can play MP3's and WMV audio files. I can surf the web via my sync and charge cradle. I can connect into my computer at school from home with a modem and terminal services. I can log into the school network IN CLASS (each desk has a 10/100 port) with a 10/100 CompactFlash NIC. I could go on and on...

BRING IT ON BOY!

 

[Czar]

<< I have owned two Palm PC's / Pocket PC's / Whatever else Microsoft is calling their product these days, and two Palms.

The battery life of Palm is unparallelled by any Microsoft contraption.

I have had the Microsoft contraptions CRASH on me DAY AFTER DAY. I lost track of how many times I had to hard reboot. I have never had a Palm crash on me, ever.

If you want to watch videos on the road, TAKE YOUR NOTEBOOK WITH YOU. A PDA was never meant to watch videos on! It doesn't have enough storage, screen real estate, nor CPU! You will get a tiny postage stamp 5 frames per second mess! >>


The only time I have to reboot my ipaq is when the pocket divx player goes fuct, thats normal because its a beta software, other than that it does NEVER crash. Watching videos, you say 5 frames per second, I say more like 30 frames per second. Watching a futurama episode is wonderful on my ipaq. What I need now is a cf sleeve, a 256mb cf card, the 1st season of simpsons on dvd so I can divx it all on my ipaq. The screen on the ipaq is like 100 times better than of any screen of all the pda's i´v seen and i´v seen plenty of them.

 

[potatosalad]

<< As far as charging, this is all I have:

At Home: USB Cradle w/ac power hooked to my dad's computer.
At School: USB sync and charge cable which syncs the iPAQ while charging.

THAT'S IT >>



Do you ever go on vacation? Do you ever go to visit someone and stay overnight? Or has the Microsoft contraption confined the limits of your life to two locations?

How sad...

 

[NFS4]

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<< I have owned two Palm PC's / Pocket PC's / Whatever else Microsoft is calling their product these days, and two Palms.

The battery life of Palm is unparallelled by any Microsoft contraption.

I have had the Microsoft contraptions CRASH on me DAY AFTER DAY. I lost track of how many times I had to hard reboot. I have never had a Palm crash on me, ever.

If you want to watch videos on the road, TAKE YOUR NOTEBOOK WITH YOU. A PDA was never meant to watch videos on! It doesn't have enough storage, screen real estate, nor CPU! You will get a tiny postage stamp 5 frames per second mess! >>


The only time I have to reboot my ipaq is when the pocket divx player goes fuct, thats normal because its a beta software, other than that it does NEVER crash. Watching videos, you say 5 frames per second, I say more like 30 frames per second. Watching a futurama episode is wonderful on my ipaq. What I need now is a cf sleeve, a 256mb cf card, the 1st season of simpsons on dvd so I can divx it all on my ipaq. The screen on the ipaq is like 100 times better than of any screen of all the pda's i´v seen and i´v seen plenty of them. >>


CZAR, don't even waste your breath with this troll. He OBVIOUSLY doesn't know what he's talking about when it comes down to PocketPC's. With all the information he's been giving on them, sounds like he's been spending all of his time in an anti-Microsoft/anti-PocketPC messageboard all his life

 

[NFS4]

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<< As far as charging, this is all I have:

At Home: USB Cradle w/ac power hooked to my dad's computer.
At School: USB sync and charge cable which syncs the iPAQ while charging.

THAT'S IT >>



Do you ever go on vacation? Do you ever go to visit someone and stay overnight? Or has the Microsoft contraption confined the limits of your life to two locations?

How sad... >>


My God, you are SOOOO sad. When I go on vacation, I take an AC adapter and that's it. Every hotel/house has a friggen AC outlet. But most of the time I don't even need it.

 

[potatosalad]

<< Every hotel/house has a friggen AC outlet. But most of the time I don't even need it. >>



And you have to return to it every 3 hours. Or whatever the pathetic battery life is. Like you still have your umbilical cord.

Like I said, very sad.

P.S. Did I mention that my Palm lasts 2 months?

 

[Bluga]

Sony CLIE PEG-N760C

 

[Czar]

NFS4, but we must enlight the ignorant

A Palm is plenty good for most users, has the basic things that a normal organizer has. That is why a palm is just an electronic organizer. A PPC is a mini pc, has not all the functionalities a pc has but has definetly enough to be called a pc. Just go back a few years ago, remember the 286, the 386. The Ipaq is just a modernized 386.

 

[Redwingsguy]

I'd have to say my visor had a fair share of crashes from software I've dl'ed

havent had that problem with my ppc, dont know what you're talking about, did you ever bother to close programs you stopped useing?

 

[NFS4]

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<< Every hotel/house has a friggen AC outlet. But most of the time I don't even need it. >>



And you have to return to it every 3 hours. Or whatever the pathetic battery life is. Like you still have your umbilical cord.

Like I said, very sad.

P.S. Did I mention that my Palm lasts 2 months? >>


Where are you getting this 3 hour BULLSH!T from???

I'm tired of dealing with this ignorant ass. Where's the ignore user option at??

 

[Czar]

potatosalad

the only thing a palm has over a ppc is the battery life, thats becuase a palm can do about 5% of what a ppc can do. When I was thinking about bying a ipaq I was worried about the battery life and the only time it has run out is when I went camping for a few days. But then again, why should I need a pda on a camping trip, I just took it because it was cool

 

[potatosalad]

<< A Palm is plenty good for most users, has the basic things that a normal organizer has. >>



Palms have more market share than all other PDA's combined. The Palm software library has more programs than all other PDA software libraries combined. The Palm has better battery life than all other PDA's combined. There are more manufacturers making Palm units and accessories than for all other PDA's combined.

I don't see why anybody would want to use anything but Palm. It is the best supported PDA there is.

 

[Czar]

hmmm I think this year Ipaqs took about 50-60% of all the PDA sales on the market.

 

[Bluga]

<< The battery life of Palm is unparallelled by any Microsoft contraption.

I have had the Microsoft contraptions CRASH on me DAY AFTER DAY. I lost track of how many times I had to hard reboot. I have never had a Palm crash on me, ever.

If you want to watch videos on the road, TAKE YOUR NOTEBOOK WITH YOU. A PDA was never meant to watch videos on! It doesn't have enough storage, screen real estate, nor CPU! You will get a tiny postage stamp 5 frames per second mess! >>
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that's very close to truth, i sold my ipaq already.

Beside, PPC is still minority, the market share of PPC has fallen the past few month.

 

[Bluga]

<< Where's the ignore user option at?? >>



leave the thread then.

 

[NFS4]

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<< The battery life of Palm is unparallelled by any Microsoft contraption.

I have had the Microsoft contraptions CRASH on me DAY AFTER DAY. I lost track of how many times I had to hard reboot. I have never had a Palm crash on me, ever.

If you want to watch videos on the road, TAKE YOUR NOTEBOOK WITH YOU. A PDA was never meant to watch videos on! It doesn't have enough storage, screen real estate, nor CPU! You will get a tiny postage stamp 5 frames per second mess! >>
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that's very close to truth, i sold my ipaq already.

Beside, PPC is still minority, the market share of PPC has fallen the past few month. >>


What the heck does being a minority in marketshare have to do with anything. AMD only has ~20 marketshare, SO WHAT!!!!

And since when have PocketPC's gotten 5fps in video playback?? The average is 20 - 30 fps

 

[NFS4]

<< leave the thread then. >>


No, tell him to stop spreading false statements like 3 hours of battery life. That is just idiotic. And I'd like to see a Palm be left on 24 - 7 for 2 months as he claims.

It's one thing to cite your disdain for something, but don't go spreading lies, i.e:

1) Rebooting everyday
2) 3 hours battery life
3) 5 FPS in videos

 

[potatosalad]

<< leave the thread then. >>

 

[RoninRXN]

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<< A Palm is plenty good for most users, has the basic things that a normal organizer has. >>



Palms have more market share than all other PDA's combined. The Palm software library has more programs than all other PDA software libraries combined. The Palm has better battery life than all other PDA's combined. There are more manufacturers making Palm units and accessories than for all other PDA's combined.

I don't see why anybody would want to use anything but Palm. It is the best supported PDA there is. >>



Ahem...while I own a Palm myself, I totally think PPC is superiour and I will look into buying in the future.

Palm has the largest market share because THEY'VE BEEN AROUND THE LONGEST. PPC has been chasing them and gaining ever since it's release.

Palm has a better battery life because a 33Mhz processor requires less power than a 206Mhz.

I, for one, think you are ignorant and you don't like PPC simply because it's a Microsoft product as demonstrated by how you call a Ipaq a "Microsoft contraption" which only lasts 3 hours. It lasts 12. If you use your PDA more than 12 hours a day...then I suggest you get some help.

 

[LittleWolf]

potatosalad

Seriously, I think you have no clue about the PPC especially the iPAQ. I have a iPAQ for the past over a year and half. It has just crashed ONLY ONCE during the entire period and guess what, that was also due to my fault. (I unhooked it from the cradle while installing a software).

As about battery life, sure it is less than a Palm, but then Palm is nothing but a glorified organizer. It is like comparing a base Sharp/Casio 20$ organizer to the Palm. These 20$ organizers have most of the functionaly which an average Palm user uses and has like zillion times more battery life than a Palm, but are they comparable? Hell no.
It's the same way with a Palm and a iPAQ.
My iPAQ easily gives me over 8-10 hours on low light (and even more on no backlight). At full blast light (it can actually used as a torch with that brightness level) and playing mp3 and watching video non-stop, it would probably last me about 3-4 hours.

And about taking it anywhere, it is pretty much as easily done as a palm. If you plan to stay away for say 2 months (as u suggest) all it needs it a small powercable (and if you need more programs/games/mp3, a CF sleeve, which hardly adds any bulk.) If you wish to attach say PCMCIA devices like a 5G HD (yes u can do that) or some fancy add-ons (say for doing a PP presentation, DVD or hooking it to a projector etc) then only you need the PCMCIA sleeve. The PCMCIA sleeve does add a little bulk, but that is more so the battery in the sleeve to power the surrogate devices.

As for realworld experience, I have "actually" travelled across the world with my iPAQ and it just totally dispenses the need of a laptop.

Makes any sense or still clueless ? :disgust:


-j

 

[NFS4]

Thanks you LittleWolf and RoninRXN, the ignorance running around is so thick that you can cut it with a knife

 

[darkshadow1]

Ipaq + 256MB CF Card + Silver Slider =

Silver Sliders kill the CF-sleeves-are-bulky argument...

I dunno, I sorta like the fact that I can move Word and PDF files back and forth to read on my Ipaq whenever I need to.

 

[OS]

<< Palms have more market share than all other PDA's combined. The Palm software library has more programs than all other PDA software libraries combined. The Palm has better battery life than all other PDA's combined. There are more manufacturers making Palm units and accessories than for all other PDA's combined.

I don't see why anybody would want to use anything but Palm. It is the best supported PDA there is. >>



Popularity does not mean superiority. McDonalds is easily and by the biggest fast food chain on this planet, but everything there tastes like vomit.




<< I have had the Microsoft contraptions CRASH on me DAY AFTER DAY. I lost track of how many times I had to hard reboot. I have never had a Palm crash on me, ever. >>



Funny, my ipaq has never crashed, which I can't say about my palm. Are we talking PPC/win CE 3 here, or are you basing your claims on some ancient win ce 1/2 product, which you seem to be doing? Maybe we should start comparing a 3800 ipaq to a Palm Pro then. . .