People from England - curious about something

[HAL9000]

Not sure if serious...

Hoping he's not serious y'all. :whiste:

 

[waffleironhead]

How do you pronounce the film "Hunchback of Notre Dame"

you are the one who inserted a "r" into dame. You explain it.

 

[BoberFett]

Not sure if serious...

If you don't hear it, you should probably get your hearing checked.

The Southern American accent is a country-bumpkin-ified version of a British accent. Many British people say they can understand our southerners more easily than they can other American dialects.


Here's a big discussion about it: http://www.antimoon.com/forum/t15850-0.htm

 

[HAL9000]

you are the one who inserted a "r" into dame. You explain it.

Just going on the french pronunciation of a french word, *shrugs* ask them.

 

[HAL9000]

If you don't hear it, you should probably get your hearing checked.

The Southern American accent is a country-bumpkin-ified version of a British accent. Many British people say they can understand our southerners more easily than they can other American dialects.

I am not one of them

 

[Fritzo]

With the hideous teeth the British are known for, it's a wonder they can talk at all.

Oh come on! We were all getting along for once, complimenting each other as singing Kumbaya, then you go ahead and pull this crap. Nice work

 

[waffleironhead]

Just going on the french pronunciation of a french word, *shrugs* ask them.

eh, no french dame is "dahm" again no "r". The r insertion is exactly what the op is talking about, with you denying.

 

[sandorski]

I have noticed this too.

Another oddity is the pronunciation of Beta. In North America we pronounce it bay tah, at least one Brit I've heard pronounces it: bee tah

Took me the longest time to figure out what he was saying.

 

[BoberFett]

I have noticed this too.

Another oddity is the pronunciation of Beta. In North America we pronounce it bay tah, at least one Brit I've heard pronounces it: bee tah

Took me the longest time to figure out what he was saying.

There's an episode of The IT Crowd (hilarious how BTW) where there's an entire discussion about whether it's pronounced PEE-dophile or PED-ophile.

 

[HAL9000]

eh, no french dame is "dahm" again no "r". The r insertion is exactly what the op is talking about, with you denying.

Yeah, sorry my phonetic spelling isn't the best, the way I pronounce it is "dahm" there's no arrrrr noise in there. That being said in English "darm" and "dahm" are exactly the same (in my accent)

 

[HAL9000]

I have noticed this too.

Another oddity is the pronunciation of Beta. In North America we pronounce it bay tah, at least one Brit I've heard pronounces it: bee tah

Took me the longest time to figure out what he was saying.

Meh. I pronounce it both ways depending on what mood I'm in, more often than not it's "bay tah"

 

[HAL9000]

There's an episode of The IT Crowd (hilarious how BTW) where there's an entire discussion about whether it's pronounced PEE-dophile or PED-ophile.

It's not really that, it was a discussion that in the UK it's pronounced peedophile and so the guy who's name was "Peter File" sounded like pedophile, but in America that wouldn't work, because it's PED-ophile.

 

[Cogman]

What's funny is that most of them deny doing this. I noticed it mostly in the midlands. People would say stuff like Pizzer, Canader, and Americer. ALL THE TIME. When you would tease them about it they would go into full denial mode.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Yeah, sorry my phonetic spelling isn't the best, the way I pronounce it is "dahm" there's no arrrrr noise in there. That being said in English "darm" and "dahm" are exactly the same (in my accent)

Exactly the proof you keep asking for. Its a case of you don't "see" it because you're doing it and so that seems normal to you.

You wonder why people say you just troll? Basically your brain doesn't function correctly and so while its obvious to everyone else (that you're trolling) you can't understand how you are.

 

[HAL9000]

Exactly the proof you keep asking for. Its a case of you don't "see" it because you're doing it and so that seems normal to you.

That's my point though, they sound the same because we don't really make an "Arrr" sound during anything especially, thus leading credence to the notion that there is no R sound at the end of our pronunciations of words...

 

[sandorski]

People usually don't realize their Accents. It takes someone else to mention them, then even after that one has to just accept that it's true. Of course the one who mentions it probably has their own quirky Accent and you just dismiss them because they don't speak right to begin with!

 

[HAL9000]

People usually don't realize their Accents. It takes someone else to mention them, then even after that one has to just accept that it's true. Of course the one who mentions it probably has their own quirky Accent and you just dismiss them because they don't speak right to begin with!

True, but in this case, I'm not going to accept that I pronounce random R's in things without some proof, because I pronounce something differently to you guys doesn't mean I add an additional letter, it just means I do it differently.

 

[davmat787]

Yeah none of those have an R sound at the end for me, they sound the same as China, the only reason you don't hear the difference is because in America you have this "aaa" sound that we don't have, we have "aah" sounds instead, which I suppose you could misinterpret as an "arr" sound, without that kind of american "aaa" sound you could get confused, but I don't add an "errr" sound to the end of China.

Keep in mind, no one really thinks they have an accent, it is everyone else that does. People tend to think it is they and their region/dialect/inflection that sounds right or normal, and others that sound odd.

The only exception to this is where I live, here in the Great Pacific Northwest©, we don't have accents.

 

[sandorski]

True, but in this case, I'm not going to accept that I pronounce random R's in things without some proof, because I pronounce something differently to you guys doesn't mean I add an additional letter, it just means I do it differently.

Dude, I can hear the Rs when reading your Posts!

 

[sandorski]

Keep in mind, no one really thinks they have an accent, it is everyone else that does. People tend to think it is they and their region/dialect/inflection that sounds right or normal, and others that sound odd.

The only exception to this is where I live, here in the Great Pacific Northwest©, we don't have accents.

hehe, you guys talk funny, even though only a Border separates us. Been up on the ruff lately? Been driving your vee-hickle?

 

[Cogman]

True, but in this case, I'm not going to accept that I pronounce random R's in things without some proof, because I pronounce something differently to you guys doesn't mean I add an additional letter, it just means I do it differently.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linking_and_intrusive_R

Um, it is well known and documented by linguists... Is that proof enough? Or are you going to stick your fingers in your ears and go "la(rrr) la(rrr) la(rrr) I don't hear it!"

 

[sandorski]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linking_and_intrusive_R

Um, it is well known and documented by linguists... Is that proof enough? Or are you going to stick your fingers in your ears and go "la(rrr) la(rrr) la(rrr) I don't here it!"

:biggrin:

 

[davmat787]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linking_and_intrusive_R

Um, it is well known and documented by linguists... Is that proof enough? Or are you going to stick your fingers in your ears and go "la(rrr) la(rrr) la(rrr) I don't hear it!"

Excellent pwnage good sir! HAL9000 just can't handle anything that might remotely resemble a criticism of the UK. And really, the topic of this thread is not a criticism in my opinion, we all have our unique pronunciations and inflections.

Not a big deal, until you stick your head in the ground about at least.

 

[Fritzo]

Excellent pwnage good sir! HAL9000 just can't handle anything that might remotely resemble a criticism of the UK. And really, the topic of this thread is not a criticism in my opinion, we all have our unique pronunciations and inflections.

Not a big deal, until you stick your head in the ground about at least.

I brought this up not as a criticism, but to find out if there was a reason behind it. Now I know, and knowing is half the battle.

 

[HAL9000]

Keep in mind, no one really thinks they have an accent, it is everyone else that does. People tend to think it is they and their region/dialect/inflection that sounds right or normal, and others that sound odd.

The only exception to this is where I live, here in the Great Pacific Northwest©, we don't have accents.

Good point, and while I do have an accent it is just the plain "BBC English" accent, it's not a south England or North England thing, it's just BBC English, some people in the south call me posh.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linking_and_intrusive_R

Um, it is well known and documented by linguists... Is that proof enough? Or are you going to stick your fingers in your ears and go "la(rrr) la(rrr) la(rrr) I don't hear it!"

Yeah we went through that earlier in the thread already, swing back.

Excellent pwnage good sir! HAL9000 just can't handle anything that might remotely resemble a criticism of the UK. And really, the topic of this thread is not a criticism in my opinion, we all have our unique pronunciations and inflections.

Not a big deal, until you stick your head in the ground about at least.

Yeah we went through that earlier in the thread already, swing back.