People from England - curious about something

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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Notre%20Dame

Click on the speaker just next to this.

Also called Notre Dame de Paris

They got it right there.

I hear some americans calling it "Noter Daim" Or even "Noder Daim"

 

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[waffleironhead]

Click on the speaker just next to this.



They got it right there.

I hear some americans calling it "Noter Daim" Or even "Noder Daim"

no, because they actually pronounce the r in notre and paris. whereas you claim to say notah dahm de pawis

 

[zinfamous]

Click on the speaker just next to this.



They got it right there.

I hear some americans calling it "Noter Daim" Or even "Noder Daim"

I did click on the sound. that's why I posted it for your convenience.

do you honestly believe that the speaker is pronouncing an "r"in the word "Dame?"

 

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no, because they actually pronounce the r in notre and paris. whereas you claim to say notah dahm de pawis

No I don't... Where the fuck did you get that delusion?

 

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I did click on the speaker. that's why I posted it for your convenience.

do you honestly believe that the speaker is pronouncing an "r"in the word "Dame?"

Right, this is the last time, the absofuckinglutely last time I'm going to explain this:

No, there is no R sound in Dame, there is however a slightly different sound from the letter A, which in my accent can be expressed phonetically like this:

"Dahm" or "darm" as both of these phonetic words are pronounced in exactly the same way with my accent, they are both pronounced without an Arrr sound, they are both pronounced in the way that the audio you linked to sounds. They are both pronounced like "Arm" for me, which is also pronounced like "Aahm" for me, with no rolling tongued Arrr sound.

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[waffleironhead]

NO! AS I HAVE SAID TIME AND TIME AGAIN, I DO NOT PRONOUNCE R SOUNDS, THUS THEY SOUND THE SAME AS H SOUNDS, I DO NOT ADD R SOUNDS UNNECESSARILY, I DO NOT PRONOUNCE THEM AT ALL!

In the words we are discussing THERE ARE NO R SOUNDS in my accent.

No I don't... Where the fuck did you get that delusion?

right there. you said you dont pronounce "R" sounds.

so its notah dahm de pahie?

 

[HAL9000]

right there. you said you dont pronounce "R" sounds.

so its notah dahm de pahie?

I do not pronounce R sounds in the words we were discussing earlier, which to the best of my recollection were "Dame" and "China"

 

[zinfamous]

Ohhhhh, OK.

so when you say "arm" you drop the "r."

"Ahh! my ahms ah on fiya!"

"what?"

"My ahms ah on fiya! Haaalp!"

"ok, whatever dude.

 

[waffleironhead]

I do not pronounce R sounds in the words we were discussing earlier, which to the best of my recollection were "Dame" and "China"

no you claimed you do not pronounce "R" sounds, now you are claiming you pick and choose which "R" sounds you pronounce.

gotcha, you cant even keep up on your lies.

 

[HAL9000]

Ohhhhh, OK.

so when you say "arm" you drop the "r."

"Ahh! my ahms ah on fiya!"

"what?"

"My ahms ah on fiya! Haaalp!"

"ok, whatever dude.

What's with "fiya" and what's with "ah"...?

In any event, I don't drop the R, it changes the way the A sounds, that is all.

 

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no you claimed you do not pronounce "R" sounds, now you are claiming you pick and choose which "R" sounds you pronounce.

gotcha, you cant even keep up on your lies.

 

[zinfamous]

I do not pronounce R sounds in the words we were discussing earlier, which to the best of my recollection were "Dame" and "China"

see our confusion?

you say here: "I don't pronounce the "r" sound in words like "dame."

then in many other posts, you say: "I pronounce it like "darm."

since you drop your "r's," and your pronunciation is completely normal to you (what we have been saying this whole fucking thread), your concept of "r" is completely different.

Thus, I think it would be hard for you to distinguish when you do, and don't pronounce "r," compared to how we hear it.

exactly like when I said "See, that's red!" when what is red to me, is clearly yellow to everyone else.

I mentioned this in nearly my first fucking post and you keep ignoring the point.

 

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see our confusion?

you say here: "I don't pronounce the "r" sound in words like "dame."

then in many other posts, you say: "I pronounce it like "darm."

since you drop your "r's," and your pronunciation is completely normal to you (what we have been saying this whole fucking thread), your concept of "r" is completely different.

It would seems so.

Thus, I think it would be hard for you to distinguish when you do, and don't pronounce "r," compared to how we hear it.

Well no because, I know what you mean when you say "pronouncing R" and I'm saying that I drop the R, I use it differently, not in the way you are describing, I know what you mean I don't do that.

exactly like when I said "See, that's red!" when what is red to me, is clearly yellow to everyone else.

I mentioned this in nearly my first fucking post and you keep ignoring the point.

I know what it sounds like in an american accent to pronounce an R that we do not, and I'm saying we do not do that at the end of China. Unless R is not an "Arrr" or a "Rrrr" sound in American, in which case I have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[zinfamous]

In any event, I don't drop the R, it changes the way the A sounds, that is all.

what the piss-holing fuck???

that is not at all what you say here:

"Dahm" or "darm" as both of these phonetic words are pronounced in exactly the same way with my accent, they are both pronounced without an Arrr sound, they are both pronounced in the way that the audio you linked to sounds. They are both pronounced like "Arm" for me, which is also pronounced like "Aahm" for me, with no rolling tongued Arrr sound.

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so, what the fuck is it?

you pronounce "Arm-Aahm" without the "arrr" sound, or you don't?

you can't say "i pronounce it without the "arrr," then turn around and say you're not dropping the "r," that the "a" just changes how it sounds.

what a pile of shit. you have no idea what you're talking about. lol

 

[HAL9000]

what the piss-holing fuck???

that is not at all what you say here:



so, what the fuck is it?

you pronounce "Arm-Aahm" without the "arrr" sound, or you don't?

you can't say "i pronounce it without the "arrr," then turn around and say you're not dropping the "r," that the "a" just changes how it sounds.

what a pile of shit. you have no idea what you're talking about. lol

I'm saying that when you add R to a word like Arm it goes from rhyming with "Am" or "spam" to rhyming with "Calm" or "Barn"... It doesn't (In my accent) and an RRR sound, it just changes the way the A sounds.

 

[zinfamous]

I know what it sounds like in an american accent to pronounce an R that we do not, and I'm saying we do not do that at the end of China. Unless R is not an "Arrr" or a "Rrrr" sound in American, in which case I have no idea what you are talking about.

yes, but we provided a link with a study showing that 98% of those sampled, "British English speakers," do pronounce the "r" at the end of China.

we have already shown that to be very much true, despite your denial of "observed, scientific study" somehow being "invalid" to you (because it disagrees with your ignorance? I don't know...)


No one is arguing that you do that, we, and the thread initially posited, that very many English people do that. We already know that. It has been shown here.

The only question most of us have raised is you inability to see what you are and aren't doing, because you are used to your own dialect. It is normal to you.

fine. the point is, that what it sounds like to others is simply an observable phenomenon baring comment. stop being daft.

 

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yes, but we provided a link with a study showing that 98% of those sampled, "British English speakers," do pronounce the "r" at the end of China.

we have already shown that to be very much true, despite your denial of "observed, scientific study" somehow being "invalid" to you (because it disagrees with your ignorance? I don't know...)


No one is arguing that you do that, we, and the thread initially posited, that very many English people do that. We already know that. It has been shown here.

The only question most of us have raised is you inability to see what you are and aren't doing, because you are used to your own dialect. It is normal to you.

fine. the point is, that what it sounds like to others is simply an observable phenomenon baring comment. stop being daft.

Cool, how about a video showing what the hell you are talking about with an R at the end of China, 168 posts in and it still hasn't happened.

 

[zinfamous]

I'm saying that when you add R to a word like Arm it goes from rhyming with "Am" or "spam" to rhyming with "Calm" or "Barn"... It doesn't (In my accent) and an RRR sound, it just changes the way the A sounds.

and we say "Barn," while you say, "Bahhn."

amiright?

 

[zinfamous]

Cool, how about a video showing what the hell you are talking about with an R at the end of China, 168 posts in and it still hasn't happened.

Chin-er.

Hosann-er

pizz-er

it's not difficult.

read.

the.

fucking.

article.

 

[HAL9000]

and we say "Barn," while you say, "Bahhn."

amiright?

I've no idea, does barn rhyme with can or ban or fan in america, because over here it rhymes with palm or calm or darn or charm.

 

[HAL9000]

Chin-er.

Hosann-er

pizz-er

it's not difficult.

read.

the.

fucking.

article.

reading

the

fucking

article

will

not

let

me

hear

what

the

fuck

you

are

on

about

 

[zinfamous]

lol.

I was typing "British people...." into google, and auto complete gives me this:

"British people bad teeth."

 

[HAL9000]

lol.

I was typing "British people...." into google, and auto complete gives me this:

"British people bad teeth."

OK, Good night.