Penn State protects child rapist that was former famous D-Coordinator

[BoomerD]

What I don't understand, is all the hate here for someone who hasn't yet been convicted of any crime...

IF he's convicted, then yes, hang him by his nuts in the town square...but until then....


Ah fuck...I forgot, this is ATOT where everyone knows that anyone accused of a crime is guilty.

 

[Dari]

What I don't understand, is all the hate here for someone who hasn't yet been convicted of any crime...

IF he's convicted, then yes, hang him by his nuts in the town square...but until then....


Ah fuck...I forgot, this is ATOT where everyone knows that anyone accused of a crime is guilty.

What is there not to understand? People here are expressing their opinion. And why should an acquittal or conviction change their opinion?

 

[Anonemous]

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/45233483/ns/sports-college_football/

And Paterno's fired... (along withe Spanier)

edit: missed the previous post

 

[Squisher]

What I don't understand, is all the hate here for someone who hasn't yet been convicted of any crime...

IF he's convicted, then yes, hang him by his nuts in the town square...but until then....


Ah fuck...I forgot, this is ATOT where everyone knows that anyone accused of a crime is guilty.

You obviously don't know what this is about. This isn't about the innocence or guilt of an alleged child molester. This is about people admitting they were informed that someone saw a molestation take place and rather that inform the police they admit they just passed it up the chain of command and when those up the chain did nothing and kept it under wraps they were perfectly accepting that this child molester maintaine a presence at the University. And, this presence allowed this molester to continue on with more molestations.

 

[mwtgg]

This is only the beginning.

 

[CrazyAznDriver]

I hope Mcqueary is next.

 

[BoomerD]

You obviously don't know what this is about. This isn't about the innocence or guilt of an alleged child molester. This is about people admitting they were informed that someone saw a molestation take place and rather that inform the police they admit they just passed it up the chain of command and when those up the chain did nothing and kept it under wraps they were perfectly accepting that this child molester maintaine a presence at the University. And, this presence allowed this molester to continue on with more molestations.

Once again, until the guy was convicted, he's not necessarily a child molester.
Yes, it sounds like the system failed. That's always bad, especially if it leads to children being abused/molested...but then again, why didn't the person who originally notified the coaching staff just call the cops?

I'm not supporting what happened...all child molesters should be (at the minimum) neutered in a very painful manner...but so far, no one has been convicted of any crime. How do we know the "graduate student" wasn't lying about what he says he saw?

 

[mwtgg]

Oh, and rioting over the firing of a senile coach, but not the alleged disgusting abuse that occurred on campus? Glad their priorities are in order, but then again, I would expect nothing less from Penn Staters

 

[IAteYourMother]

As it should be. The biggest challenge is putting something behind you and not firing him just prolonged the bleeding.

It's Joe Paterno, not some random authority. This won't put anything behind anyone for a long time.

 

[cliftonite]

Once again, until the guy was convicted, he's not necessarily a child molester.
Yes, it sounds like the system failed. That's always bad, especially if it leads to children being abused/molested...but then again, why didn't the person who originally notified the coaching staff just call the cops?

I'm not supporting what happened...all child molesters should be (at the minimum) neutered in a very painful manner...but so far, no one has been convicted of any crime. How do we know the "graduate student" wasn't lying about what he says he saw?

The coach was recorded on a telephone conversation admitting to some of the charges but the prosecutor did not press charges (he is now presumed to be dead)

 

[Wreckem]

Once again, until the guy was convicted, he's not necessarily a child molester.
Yes, it sounds like the system failed. That's always bad, especially if it leads to children being abused/molested...but then again, why didn't the person who originally notified the coaching staff just call the cops?

I'm not supporting what happened...all child molesters should be (at the minimum) neutered in a very painful manner...but so far, no one has been convicted of any crime. How do we know the "graduate student" wasn't lying about what he says he saw?

JoePa is the easy target. He's the highest profile.

But it was a catastrophic failure all around inside and out of Penn State and Sandusky's charity.

 

[cliftonite]

The ratio was 1000x1, can you read? The tens of thousands total is probably even short, more like hundreds of thousands of child molesting educators. But you keep brushing off the disparity. Its making you look real good.

You want to change the rules and say anyone who doesnt fit your definition isnt being assualted, raped or abused. IN your world you can do whatever you want but in the real world that doesnt wash.




HELLO! If they had no case then MJ would have asked for a dismissal not pay out a settlement. Which is cheaper - a simple dismissal or paying $15,000,000?

Are you trolling?



I showed you 3 examples of worthless pedo teachers being arrested today. Show me one bad priest arrested today. Then tell me the 1000 to 1 ratio isnt valid. You wont because you cant.

Hundreds of thousands of child molesting educators? Please prove this. You know it is a bullshit figure you are pulling out of your ass.

 

[Wreckem]

The coach was recorded on a telephone conversation admitting to some of the charges but the prosecutor did not press charges (he is now presumed to be dead)

Paterno, and most people did not know the full story of the 1998 incident. All most knew was there were allegations and the DA didn't press charges. The people at PSUPD who killed the investigation after the DA declined to move forward should be the ones on the hot seat. They should have continued to investigate the 1998 matter until they had a better case or a new DA. It should had never gotten to 2002. If the police and the DA did their jobs this never would have been left to linger.

 

[Miramonti]

I hope Mcqueary is next.

I have mixed feelings about this because he had the balls to report what he saw in the first place, even tho it's true he ultimately fell in line with the crony 'protect one's own' culture at the school.

 

[Miramonti]

Once again, until the guy was convicted, he's not necessarily a child molester.
Yes, it sounds like the system failed. That's always bad, especially if it leads to children being abused/molested...but then again, why didn't the person who originally notified the coaching staff just call the cops?

I'm not supporting what happened...all child molesters should be (at the minimum) neutered in a very painful manner...but so far, no one has been convicted of any crime. How do we know the "graduate student" wasn't lying about what he says he saw?

No one is disputing the "fact" he had his pnis well into a child's @ss. Yes, he is a child molester whether or not a jury has concluded this yet.

On the other hand you are correct, he is not a CONVICTED child molester...yet.

 

[BoomerD]

No one is disputing the "fact" he had his pnis well into a child's @ss. Yes, he is a child molester whether or not a jury has concluded this yet.

Proof that he's a child molester?

I agree that many child molesters are never convicted...but it sounds like this was properly reported but not prosecuted.

Who failed to do what was right?

 

[mwtgg]

Proof that he's a child molester?

I agree that many child molesters are never convicted...but it sounds like this was properly reported but not prosecuted.

Who failed to do what was right?

If you know that someone is accused of something like this, wouldn't you make sure the police got involved? Not, oh.. well, I guess it was just a misunderstanding. Carry on!

 

[Miramonti]

Proof that he's a child molester?

I agree that many child molesters are never convicted...but it sounds like this was properly reported but not prosecuted.

Who failed to do what was right?

This was witnessed and the witness's credibility is not in question by anyone...and I'm not going to be the first. Therefore this stands as "FACT" in my book...I don't need a bunch of unemployed alcoholic hicks coming down from the Appalachians to conclude this in a courtroom first.

What is the total alleged victims up to now, 20? Let's run some regressions on 20 independent adult accounts of being molested by the same particular person during their childhood...what would the odds be they are 'mis-remembering'...and that the eyewitness was 'mis-interpreting'?

Fact is fact.

 

[Miramonti]

Who failed to do what was right?

Unfortunately MANY people. This is heartbreaking and gutwrenching.

 

[TallBill]

Paterno, and most people did not know the full story of the 1998 incident. All most knew was there were allegations and the DA didn't press charges. The people at PSUPD who killed the investigation after the DA declined to move forward should be the ones on the hot seat. They should have continued to investigate the 1998 matter until they had a better case or a new DA. It should had never gotten to 2002. If the police and the DA did their jobs this never would have been left to linger.

You clearly don't know what happened in 1998 either. In the 1998 incident, Sandusky took a shower with a an 11 year old boy and hugged him nude and picked him up. The investigation discovered that he had showered with another young boy earlier. There were no charges at the time, because there just wasn't a case.

I actually read the whole grand jury report. And I'm not saying that I know what all happened, but it gives much better insight into the case than the shitty reporting on the entire subject so far.

 

[BoomerD]

This was witnessed and the witness's credibility is not in question by anyone...and I'm not going to be the first. Therefore this stands as "FACT" in my book...I don't need a bunch of unemployed alcoholic hicks coming down from the Appalachians to conclude this in a courtroom first.

What is the total alleged victims up to now, 20? Let's run some regressions on 20 independent adult accounts of being molested by the same particular person during their childhood...what would the odds be they are 'mis-remembering'...and that the eyewitness was 'mis-interpreting'?

Fact is fact.

Then why wasn't he ever charged?

Unfortunately MANY people. This is heartbreaking.

Apparently so. I don't know about "heartbreaking," but it is pretty damned disappointing.

It's not at all uncommon for athletes and "important" people with university sports teams to get a "pass" on criminal behavior. Right or wrong...it happens all the time.

 

[Miramonti]

Then why wasn't he ever charged?

The university officials and the football coaches who knew about it refused to report the crime to the police.

Apparently so. I don't know about "heartbreaking," but it is pretty damned disappointing.

It's not at all uncommon for athletes and "important" people with university sports teams to get a "pass" on criminal behavior. Right or wrong...it happens all the time.

I don't know if I've seen someone to this extent get a free pass. Money, assault, drugs...not uncommon imo...but child rape? And he's still 'in the family'? I hope everyone who did turned a blind eye pays a heavy cost for this in one way or another. And yes, for me it's heartbreaking because by not checking someone like that, it's the same as inviting him to rape more very vulnerable children and fvck up their lives.

 

[AMCRambler]

I see all this hate for Paterno and yes he could have done more, but isn't it the responsibility of the witness to the crime to go to the police? What the hell did the graduate assistant do besides tell Paterno? Nothing! It was that person's responsibility to bring this to the attention of the authorities and they failed to do so. String that one up by his/her thumbs.

The apathy shown by all involved is pretty sickening. None of them wanted to rock the boat. Just make it go away so we don't have to deal with the scandal. That's pretty effed up.

 

[Via]

I'm as liberal as they come in most cases, but it's truly hard for me to believe that an entire university department faculty (many of whom have kids) covered for a child rapist for decades. There has to be more to this story.

If it's all true I'll have to re-examine everything I believe in.

 

[Mr. Lennon]

I'm as liberal as they come in most cases, but it's truly hard for me to believe that an entire university department faculty (many of whom have kids) covered for a child rapist for decades. There has to be more to this story.

If it's all true I'll have to re-examine everything I believe in.

Penn State people are a cult. Coach brings in $70 million dollars a year and is viewed as the pope over there. Penn State wants to protect their image as much as the Catholics did, that's why no one said anything.