Penn State protects child rapist that was former famous D-Coordinator

[edro]

I am guessing the ratio is high even if the particular number was retrieved rectally. There are wayyyyyyyy more teachers and other school staff than catholic priests in the US.

It happened more with Catholic Priests because priests were celibate and for some reason, the church turned a blind eye to man/boy love.
It was common through the ages.
I should know; I watch the History Channel.

Lets be honest here. Let say you work for a 500 million dollar private company and you are close to the owner. The owners sister also works there and you two are good friends. One night you go in the office and see the owner humping a 10 year old boy. What would you guys do?

This is exactly what happened. The grad assistant who witnessed the main 2002 shower incident, grew up with Sandusky's son and the families were friends.
This is definitely a cover up.

 

[FelixDeCat]

inappropriate relationship /= pedo. You need to learn how to define terms.

10,000 : 1? roflsocks, From where do you pull this BS that you have yet to verify?

besides, the majority of those kids are more or less adults, legally. unlike the child raping that was going on with PSU and the Catholic Church--those were children, not young men and women that you have linked. In such cases, they are represented, as adults, to make decisions for themselves.

These are not cases of rape.

Anyway, this "discussion" does nothing.

The ratio was 1000x1, can you read? The tens of thousands total is probably even short, more like hundreds of thousands of child molesting educators. But you keep brushing off the disparity. Its making you look real good.

You want to change the rules and say anyone who doesnt fit your definition isnt being assualted, raped or abused. IN your world you can do whatever you want but in the real world that doesnt wash.

Jackson was one weird motherfucker. but pedophile? lolno.

they didn't settle simply because of money--they settled because they had no case. the testimony wouldn't hold up.

HELLO! If they had no case then MJ would have asked for a dismissal not pay out a settlement. Which is cheaper - a simple dismissal or paying $15,000,000?

Are you trolling?

Tens of thousands? Thousand to 1 teacher to priest ratio? GOt any numbers to back that up?

I showed you 3 examples of worthless pedo teachers being arrested today. Show me one bad priest arrested today. Then tell me the 1000 to 1 ratio isnt valid. You wont because you cant.

 

[GrumpyMan]

Lets be honest here. Let say you work for a 500 million dollar private company and you are close to the owner. The owners sister also works there and you two are good friends. One night you go in the office and see the owner humping a 10 year old boy. What would you guys do?

I would beat the crap out of him, cut his balls off and then tell the cops to come pick up the pieces from sidewalk below. But that's just me.

 

[PottedMeat]

Are you trolling?

with no mention of 'catholic' or 'priest' or 'michael jackson' until you came along and you got a few people to start talking about it sounds like you've trolled successfully.

 

[rcpratt]

Nobody gives a shit about Michael Jackson here, go away.

 

[7window]

Sandusky was lower on the totem pole than JoePa. It's not like if he had been reported, the entire business would cease to exist.

I think they are closer than you think.

I say the whole incident is wrong but hard to make a decision if you are in that situation.

 

[7window]

It happened more with Catholic Priests because priests were celibate and for some reason, the church turned a blind eye to man/boy love.
It was common through the ages.
I should know; I watch the History Channel.


This is exactly what happened. The grad assistant who witnessed the main 2002 shower incident, grew up with Sandusky's son and the families were friends.
This is definitely a cover up.

They kept it quiet for nine years they should now face the music.

 

[7window]

I would beat the crap out of him, cut his balls off and then tell the cops to come pick up the pieces from sidewalk below. But that's just me.

I doubt it.

 

[GrumpyMan]

This is the internet dummy, you don't really know now do you? Ha!

 

[zinfamous]

T

can you please take your butt-hurt anti-atheism claptrap, or whatever it is, out of this thread?

also, show me any of those teachers that are pedophiles. You still don't understand the term.

questioning the average person, world-wide, with some word association,
what do you think the first words that come to mind when you mention:

Catholic Priest?

how about:

Teacher?

anyway, this has no place in this thread. go defend your public pedophile organization elsewhere. :awe:

 

[Phokus]

Didn't realize Wisconsin had a bunch of classless fans.

And its pretty easy to enforce a ban on signs in a stadium. Some schools already do it because they've had problems with offensive signs in the past.

Lets be honest, passionate football fans (and sports fans in general) tend to be tribalistic morons. Those imbecile Penn State students who marched in the streets last night? That would have happened on a lot of campuses.

 

[torpid]

It happened more with Catholic Priests because priests were celibate and for some reason, the church turned a blind eye to man/boy love.
It was common through the ages.
I should know; I watch the History Channel.

There are something like 7 million teachers in the US and about 45,000 catholic priests. At those numbers, even if 1 in 100,000 teachers were abusers and 1 in 1000 priests were, the teachers would still outnumber the priests.

Obviously the rate is key here, but the main point is that the frequency within the profession could be really, really low for teachers and there could still be more total abusers just because there are so many educators in the US.

I would, frankly, be surprised if the ratio of number of teachers to catholic priests who are abusers were near 1000 to 1, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if the ratio were at least somewhat higher. It would be astounding if the ratio of the RATE of occurrence were anything close to that.

 

[Ns1]

wow, everyone is going down

 

[Wreckem]

wow, everyone is going down

This was expected. I full house cleaning was in order. The question was when it was going to happen.

 

[sactoking]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/09/us-education-department-to-investigate-penn-state-scandal

US Dept of Education to investigate Penn St for failure to comply with Federal crime disclosure policies.

The U.S. Department of Education has announced an investigation into Penn State University's sex offense scandal over the school's compliance with crime disclosure policies.

Penn State football's former defensive coordinator, Jerry Sandusky, has been accused of molesting eight boys over 15 years.

The investigation -- to be carried out by the Office of Federal Student Aid -- will determine whether the school followed the Jeanne Clery Disclosure of Campus Security Policy and the Campus Crime Statistics Act, read a statement from the Department of Education.

Colleges and universities are required to disclose the number of reported criminal offenses each year on campus under the Campus Crime Statistics Act. Institutions also must issue timely warnings if a reported crime is a threat to the greater campus community, the statement read.

"If these allegations of sexual abuse are true then this is a horrible tragedy for those young boys," said Education Secretary Arne Duncan. "If it turns out that some people at the school knew of the abuse and did nothing or covered it up, that makes it even worse."

Penn State officials were notified of the investigation through a letter. The Office for Civil Rights will assess further investigations or enforcement actions if necessary.

The football team's 84-year-old head coach, Joe Paterno, has taken criticism since Sandusky was charged. Paterno announced Wednesday that he would retire at the end of the season.

Athletic director Tim Curley and vice president Gary Schultz have also been charged with failing to notify authorities after an eyewitness reported a 2002 assault.

 

[Gigantopithecus]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/09/us-education-department-to-investigate-penn-state-scandal

US Dept of Education to investigate Penn St for failure to comply with Federal crime disclosure policies.

This could have major consequences for PSU as a school, not just their football and athletic programs.

 

[7window]

There are something like 7 million teachers in the US and about 45,000 catholic priests. At those numbers, even if 1 in 100,000 teachers were abusers and 1 in 1000 priests were, the teachers would still outnumber the priests.

Obviously the rate is key here, but the main point is that the frequency within the profession could be really, really low for teachers and there could still be more total abusers just because there are so many educators in the US.

I would, frankly, be surprised if the ratio of number of teachers to catholic priests who are abusers were near 1000 to 1, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if the ratio were at least somewhat higher. It would be astounding if the ratio of the RATE of occurrence were anything close to that.

catholic priest are the worst offenders. I saw it first hand.

 

[Wreckem]

This could have major consequences for PSU as a school, not just their football and athletic programs.

Not really, they can fine the school up to $27,500 per violation. For which, there would be 1.

They could theoretically, yank federal financial aid programs from Penn State but that would hurt more than just Penn State, that would effect over 80,000 students. They aren't going to punitively punish the students of Penn State for the poor choices of administrators.

VaTech was guilty of two Cleary violations when 33 people died during the VaTech shootings. They were fined $55k.

Now if the FBI decided to investigate, the shit would get real if there was evidence of a concerted conspiracy. But that would only effect the people personally involved.

Penn State's biggest worry isn't the DOE, the states AG, of even the FBI. Their biggest worry is civil suits, but they have the money to cover them.

 

[Anonemous]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/florida-te...atholic-school/story?id=14914129#.TrskeEMr2-U

So you report it and you get fired just like that other story...

 

[BrokenVisage]

Joe's officially gone.

 

[Xed]

Joe's officially gone.

Took them long enough

 

[her209]

Joe's officially gone.

Effective immediately

 

[Squisher]

Joe's officially gone.

As it should be. The biggest challenge is putting something behind you and not firing him just prolonged the bleeding.

 

[zinfamous]

Joe's officially gone.

looks like it

http://espn.go.com/college-football...e-paterno-president-graham-spanier-penn-state

 

[Atomic Playboy]

See, this is the thing I don't get about the knee-jerk reaction. You get rid of the President and Paterno; fine. But the athletic director is still on, and he's the one who is actually being charged with a crime (failing to report the abuse that was witnessed). The knee-jerk response gets rid of the figureheads, but the athletic director is, if anything, more culpable than Paterno, and he hasn't been let go? How does that make sense?