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OCGuy

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: OCguy
It is sad that doctors will prescribe powerful drugs at the drop of the hat. It is even more sad that people will take them.

Your outlook is sadder still.

So how much dope do you take daily because you dont "feel right" without it?
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: OCguy
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: OCguy
It is sad that doctors will prescribe powerful drugs at the drop of the hat. It is even more sad that people will take them.

Your outlook is sadder still.

So how much dope do you take daily because you dont "feel right" without it?

:laugh:
Whatever, chief. You need to stop worrying so much about how other people live.
 

jonnyGURU

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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: jonnyGURU
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: jonnyGURU
Originally posted by: sandorski
You haven't been diagnosed as BiPolar by any chance?

No. And I don't think I fit the profile.

Although I could have multiple personality and my other personality could be bipolar. :p

Good. Some BiPolars have a similar attitude concerning their Medication. However, when they quit to become "normal", often the Police get called because they've stripped in Public and/or have done something so bizarre that people don't know what else to do.

Wait... so there was something wrong with me streaking along the Magnificent Mile last night? Crap!

Were you shrieking about Communists and Fluoridation?

No.... only Flouridated Communists. Not the same thing, right?

 

TruePaige

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Originally posted by: OCguy
It is sad that doctors will prescribe powerful drugs at the drop of the hat. It is even more sad that people will take them.

I don't think doctors prescribe enough drugs these days.

So many helpful drugs out there that could make peoples lives better and thanks to "drug seekers" doctors put you under intense scrutiny for everything.
 

jersiq

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Originally posted by: jonnyGURU
Originally posted by: sandorski
You haven't been diagnosed as BiPolar by any chance?

No. And I don't think I fit the profile.

Although I could have multiple personality and my other personality could be bipolar. :p

Maybe you should let a trained psychiatrist make that determination.

Believe me, you aren't the first person prone to angry outbursts. I did the same thing until I was prescribed a mood stabilizer Lamictal.

In fact, it was orginally taking an SSRI (when I should have started on a mood stabilizer) that triggered some of my more insane outbursts.

My point is to not self-diagnose. Walking around and yelling at others on a regular basis for whatever reason is just not healthy behavior at all.
 

MrDudeMan

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Originally posted by: jonnyGURU
In fact, I'm finding that I was, and am now again, quite a dick a lot of the time with bouts of downright arrogance and rudeness. But again, you know what? I'm ok with that. It's who I am. Take it or leave it.

This is such a load of bull. You are just too lazy to self-correct (or medicate) and become a decent person. No one should be forced to decide to deal with you, but your co-workers and family don't have a choice. I feel sorry for everyone in your life who has to put up with your arrogance because you think it's ok. "It's who I am." I'm glad you got off your meds and have become yourself again, but it's appalling that you are ok with how you act while being yourself.
 

jonnyGURU

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Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
Originally posted by: jonnyGURU
In fact, I'm finding that I was, and am now again, quite a dick a lot of the time with bouts of downright arrogance and rudeness. But again, you know what? I'm ok with that. It's who I am. Take it or leave it.

This is such a load of bull. You are just too lazy to self-correct (or medicate) and become a decent person. No one should be forced to decide to deal with you, but your co-workers and family don't have a choice. I feel sorry for everyone in your life who has to put up with your arrogance because you think it's ok. "It's who I am." I'm glad you got off your meds and have become yourself again, but it's appalling that you are ok with how you act while being yourself.

HAHAHA! You're cool.
 

BaboonGuy

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Originally posted by: jjsole
Its unfortunate that so many people are dependent on anti-depressants to feel good.

What happened to good old fashion codependency and relying solely on other people's comments to dictate one's happiness and self-worth?

i lol'd
 

Regs

Lifer
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:music:Don't worry; be happy now :music:

Seriously, If you make yourself happy in a situation you're usually sad or made about, you can actually train your brain to react in a different way. Maybe the meds can be used as training wheels.

Obviously you should not be laughing at your mother-in-laws funeral, which I would pay to see, but try reacting more positive.
 

TruePaige

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I don't know how something that genuinely helps a lot of people and that they have a choice of taking or not depending on if it helps enough to be worth it can be bullshit.

Maybe it isn't right FOR YOU, but for someone with serious can't get out of bed depression it can be better to feel a little "don't care"'ish than to not be able to function.
 

manlymatt83

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Originally posted by: surfsatwerk
Originally posted by: jjsole
Its unfortunate that so many people are dependent on anti-depressants to feel good.

What happened to good old fashion codependency and relying solely on other people's comments to dictate one's happiness and self-worth?

The idea that people who are mental ill suffer from a lack of willpower or character is absurd.

This.

I know friends who drug themselves up and think it's the only answer.

I've had rough times. TRUST ME. You don't want to know. And I haven't taken anti depressants. Luckily, I've had friends there to support me and I always return to normal, even if it takes years.
 

manlymatt83

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Oct 14, 2005
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Originally posted by: JohnCU
i was on paxil for 4 years. helped my social anxiety but in the first couple of months gained 10 lbs, then eventually wound up gaining like 40 more.

now i'm off of it, but it took a couple of weeks for the little brain zaps to go away. now anxiety is back DAMNIT

Dude. It's good that the anxiety is back. It means you're you. Go run a few miles a day. Do yoga. See how you feel afterwards.
 

MrsBugi

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Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
I'd rather work on behavior modification than try meds.

:thumbsup:

Those who take psych meds should be in therapy at the same time. I'm not a huge fan of meds and believe they should be used as a last resort, for those with certain disorders like Bipolar or Major Depressive Disorder they can help at least bring you back up to baseline.

I'm also surprised at the high dosage initially prescribed.
 

SphinxnihpS

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Originally posted by: jonnyGURU
Originally posted by: sandorski
You haven't been diagnosed as BiPolar by any chance?

No. And I don't think I fit the profile. you have no idea what the profile is

Although I could have multiple personality and my other personality could be bipolar. :p

You sound EXACTLY like BP spectrum illness to me. Paxil and any other SSRI would do the exact opposite of what you need. LOL

So many BPs get diagnosed incorrectly as depression.

Still even if you get a "good" MD, and get correctly diagnosed as BP, I wouldn't take the pills they have for that.
 

Number1

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: OCguy
It is sad that doctors will prescribe powerful drugs at the drop of the hat. It is even more sad that people will take them.

agreed.

there is something morally wrong with people who take anti depressants?

Are you a scientologist or just a self righteous ass?
 

TruePaige

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Originally posted by: MrsBugi
Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
I'd rather work on behavior modification than try meds.

:thumbsup:

Those who take psych meds should be in therapy at the same time. I'm not a huge fan of meds and believe they should be used as a last resort, for those with certain disorders like Bipolar or Major Depressive Disorder they can help at least bring you back up to baseline.

I'm also surprised at the high dosage initially prescribed.

Originally posted by: MrsBugi
Originally posted by: Spartan Niner
I'd rather work on behavior modification than try meds.

:thumbsup:

Those who take psych meds should be in therapy at the same time. I'm not a huge fan of meds and believe they should be used as a last resort, for those with certain disorders like Bipolar or Major Depressive Disorder they can help at least bring you back up to baseline.

I'm also surprised at the high dosage initially prescribed.

Nobody forces a person to take meds.

If they want to, why not let them? Some have really great benefits.

Prescription drugs get such a bad stigma for some reason but if you could live without anxiety, depression, sleeplessness, heart burn, migraines, ADD, etc... why not?

I know that went a little out of the spectrum of your post but seriously...pharmaceuticals have made many lives better and if you don't like it DON'T TAKE THEM.

What is up with people trying to force their views on others?
 

Modelworks

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I have suffered with depression since I was 18. For the first couple years I only did therapy, then I started taking Prozac, because it was the drug at the time, it had only been on the market about a month.It didn't work, made things worse. Over the years I switched between taking nothing and trying what the latest drug was. Nothing worked for long. I could take something for 4-6 months and it would just stop working overnight, no rhyme or reason. I would be at work and just lose all interest in everything. Someone could have dropped $10 million on my lap and I wouldn't have given a damn. Its f'ing miserable to be that way. Imagine feeling like you are hollow, nothing matters and death becomes something to focus on because you have no reason to stay around. Every minute alive is like someone pouring salt in your wounds.

Then about 4 years ago I started taking the drug effexor (venlafaxine). Within two weeks I was ready to take on life again. It was like someone flipped a switch and I saw things in my life in ways that I couldn't see them before. I worry now that one day effexor will stop working like the others did, but so far their is not indication of that. Now the bad side . Effexor is like quitting cocaine. Some addicts have said that they would rather quit heroin than try to stop taking effexor. The longer you take it the worse the effects of stopping become. I have had a few times where I ran out . I thought it will just be two days then I can get a refill and all will be okay till then. Man was I wrong. By the second day I couldn't sleep, I was nauseated, my vision blurred, headaches and sweating. Changing what I was looking at in a room would cause shocks inside my head. Two hours after taking the drug again all those effects were gone. I know of a girl who tried suicide because she missed two doses. She said everything was fine and so she thought she could just quit taking it, then two days later overdosed and was in the ER.

I am grateful to the drug company that makes effexor and other drugs, but I am pissed they did not warn me or others about the danger of missing doses until after we were already taking the drugs. It is like a crack dealer selling crack, hooking people, then telling them "oh, did I mention, its a bitch to stop?"
 

StageLeft

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Works better for some than others.

As always in topics like this we have the typical "those drugs are always bullsh*t" or "people are weak" or whatever, but these people know not of what they speak.
 

Modelworks

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Feb 22, 2007
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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Works better for some than others.

As always in topics like this we have the typical "those drugs are always bullsh*t" or "people are weak" or whatever, but these people know not of what they speak.


Like my brother when he was drunk and I was telling him he needs to quit was telling me, "don't tell me not to drink when you are getting high all the time with those damn psych drugs"

I think it comes from the misunderstanding that antidepressants make people high.
 

TruePaige

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Originally posted by: Modelworks
I have suffered with depression since I was 18. For the first couple years I only did therapy, then I started taking Prozac, because it was the drug at the time, it had only been on the market about a month.It didn't work, made things worse. Over the years I switched between taking nothing and trying what the latest drug was. Nothing worked for long. I could take something for 4-6 months and it would just stop working overnight, no rhyme or reason. I would be at work and just lose all interest in everything. Someone could have dropped $10 million on my lap and I wouldn't have given a damn. Its f'ing miserable to be that way. Imagine feeling like you are hollow, nothing matters and death becomes something to focus on because you have no reason to stay around. Every minute alive is like someone pouring salt in your wounds.

Then about 4 years ago I started taking the drug effexor (venlafaxine). Within two weeks I was ready to take on life again. It was like someone flipped a switch and I saw things in my life in ways that I couldn't see them before. I worry now that one day effexor will stop working like the others did, but so far their is not indication of that. Now the bad side . Effexor is like quitting cocaine. Some addicts have said that they would rather quit heroin than try to stop taking effexor. The longer you take it the worse the effects of stopping become. I have had a few times where I ran out . I thought it will just be two days then I can get a refill and all will be okay till then. Man was I wrong. By the second day I couldn't sleep, I was nauseated, my vision blurred, headaches and sweating. Changing what I was looking at in a room would cause shocks inside my head. Two hours after taking the drug again all those effects were gone. I know of a girl who tried suicide because she missed two doses. She said everything was fine and so she thought she could just quit taking it, then two days later overdosed and was in the ER.

I am grateful to the drug company that makes effexor and other drugs, but I am pissed they did not warn me or others about the danger of missing doses until after we were already taking the drugs. It is like a crack dealer selling crack, hooking people, then telling them "oh, did I mention, its a bitch to stop?"

Yeah, I've heard of people who have had the same amazing effects for Effexor.

Those who step down really need to do it on a soft wean down.

Full withdrawal...could be very bad. A slow pull back to 37.5mg or so would make it a lot easier.