Paxil sucks

[OCNewbie]

I think therapy/counseling, whatever you wanna call it, is the first step to try if you're having emotional difficulties in your life. If you've given counseling a sincere effort (after quite a few visits, maybe 5-10+) and still aren't seeing a marked improvement, then perhaps look into medication to supplement the counseling.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Works better for some than others.

As always in topics like this we have the typical "those drugs are always bullsh*t" or "people are weak" or whatever, but these people know not of what they speak.

Agreed. I'm not ashamed to admit that Prozac saved my life.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: OCguy
It is sad that doctors will prescribe powerful drugs at the drop of the hat. It is even more sad that people will take them.

Your outlook is sadder still.

So how much dope do you take daily because you dont "feel right" without it?

:laugh:
Whatever, chief. You need to stop worrying so much about how other people live.

He's a coward whose only defense against aggression is a natural excess of serotonin. That modern drugs could remove that advantage terrifies him.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: OCguy

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Don't feel sorry for people.

They feel better.

It is better than feeling miserable.

You sound like an ass when you say that.

Yea, they feel "better" for a short time. Read the posts of people in this thread. They have to move on to the latest and greatest to get the same high.

I'm not advocating laws saying they shouldnt be allowed to. Adults can make their own decisions and I will never infringe on that. But I have the right to call most of them* dopers.
.

Gateway drug bullshit. Fuck off.

 

[totalcommand]

Originally posted by: jonnyGURU
So I'm a little edgy... angry... I'm pretty sure I've always been this way.

Well, stress at work was a little high, so I've been a bit edgier and angrier and this bothered some people. So I went to the doctor and he gave me a prescription for 50MG of Paxil to take daily.

I've been taking it for about four months and wasn't really aware that there was a change in myself, but did notice that my temper was more under control.

In June, I flew to Taiwan and mainland China for business and had a tendency to forget my pill on some days due to being incredibly busy and incredibly jet lagged. When I got home a week later, I crashed right into bed, again fogetting to take my Paxil.

The next day I woke up really dizzy with a tremendous headache and with shooting pains all over my body. I thought I was sick, or over tired from the trip, but it turns out that it was the Paxil because a couple hours after taking a pill, I started to feel better.

While I was in my dizzy state, I got a chance to see myself almost as if I was looking in from the outside. I think from my state of not being on Paxil, I came to realize what Paxil was doing to me. I was boring! I wasn't passionate about work, I didn't "get into" things, I agreed with everyone about everything. I was essentially an android.

I looked online and found that kicking Paxil is very difficult. The way I felt the day I got back from Asia would be the way I'd have to feel for at least a couple weeks as the Paxil leaves my system and my seratonin come back down. I went back to my doctor and told him I need to get off of this stuff. He cut my dosage in half to 25MG. That was about a month ago and this week I'm just now starting to feel more like myself.

I've had spells of dizziness and headaches like before, but not as bad. And they seem to be subsiding. I can now focus better and I'm now at a point of clarity where I can actually look back and see how miserable I was while on the 50MG dose (while I was on the dosage, I was just too out of it to know or care!). I'm scaring my coworkers a little bit because I'm snapping at people a bit more, but I'm ok with that because I now feel I can get things done since I'm more inclined to stay on top of things. In fact, I'm finding that I was, and am now again, quite a dick a lot of the time with bouts of downright arrogance and rudeness. But again, you know what? I'm ok with that. It's who I am. Take it or leave it.

But this Paxil stuff... holy crap. It's dangerous. Bad news. If you can live with having no personality and walking through life with your head in the clouds, more power to you. Me? I like to live life, good or bad, thank you very much.

Paxil can actually be a great drug for many people. But not for all people. There are currently genetic studies going on trying to match serotonin receptor subtype expression to drug efficacy. What may be going on is that Paxil is just not the right SSRI for you. Talk with your doctor about starting a different SSRI. Or, celexa or escitalopram is a popular choice nowadays. Also, if you're feeling "blah" on the SSRI, consider talking with your doctor about an SNRI like Effexor or Cymbalta (venlafaxine/duloxetine) which will have some more "stimulant" activity that should combat the "blah" feeling you're having.

Also, be careful with Paxil - it has the shortest half life of all SSRI's so it will have the most severe withdrawal effects of all the SSRIs. Definitely cooperate with your doctor's schedule for tapering this drug. Do not stop suddenly.

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: ebaycj

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Works better for some than others.

As always in topics like this we have the typical "those drugs are always bullsh*t" or "people are weak" or whatever, but these people know not of what they speak.

Like my brother when he was drunk and I was telling him he needs to quit was telling me, "don't tell me not to drink when you are getting high all the time with those damn psych drugs"

I think it comes from the misunderstanding that antidepressants make people high.

Likely because the DO make people high. Just not you. You're low normally, so they just make you normal.

Another of the uninformed. They don't make anyone high. SSRI make serotonin last longer so that communication between neurons remains normal. They don't make the serotonin levels increase by stimulation like drugs like cocaine. An easy way to view it is in depression the serotonin is already there, just the body is wasting it rather than using it.

 

[flexy]

50mg is a lot...usually people start out w/ 20mg...why did he give you 50mg?

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: AstroManLuca
My dad went on Paxil once and he said it was like an acid trip and it scared the shit out of him. Zoloft worked and he only went on temporarily. Myself, I went on Prozac one time when I was fairly young and it helped me out (though it may have just been a maturity issue that I naturally grew out of). I don't want to go back on any of that stuff again, though.

Similar occurrence here. Mine occurred while I was trimming some trees with a chain saw. Fun stuff. Luckily, I treat running a chain saw as if holding onto a tiger's tail and shut it off when things started getting weird.

The root problem was fixed by splitting from the wife and her kids.

 

[Miramonti]

This thread should be renamed, "DO NOT OVERDOSE ON THIS STUFF!".

 

[rudeguy]

Originally posted by: Whisper

Originally posted by: JohnCU

Originally posted by: surfsatwerk

Originally posted by: JohnCU

Originally posted by: surfsatwerk

Originally posted by: JohnCU

Originally posted by: BudAshes
just smoke weed when you need to relax. Its the best non addictive drug you can find for stuff like that.

great unless you have random drug tests

Or you eventually become addicted to it.

you ever hear of weed rehab? NOPE!

Drug rehab includes those addicted to pot.

go to rehab and find someone who is there for addiction to weed. i'll bet you $1000 you won't.

I've personally spoken and worked with clients whose primary reason for seeking treatment was marijuana abuse/dependence. The purely physiological effects and mechanisms of addiction are still being studied (although there are those in the field who believe its withdrawal symptoms to be similar to alcohol or opiates), but the psychologically addictive aspect is fairly widely accepted.

Right. Addiction is not always physical. The hard part of overcoming any addiction is the mental side, not the physical.

Once you have trained your brain to deal with situations with mind altering substances, its VERY, VERY hard to change it back. It doesn't matter if its weed, heroin, alcohol or toad piss.

I am no expert though....I have only overcome addiction myself and helped many others do the same.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: jjsole
Its unfortunate that so many people are dependent on anti-depressants to feel good.

What happened to good old fashion codependency and relying solely on other people's comments to dictate one's happiness and self-worth?

lol are you serious. its a chemical imbalance. a 'good job' from someone won't fix it.

 

[jonnyGURU]

Originally posted by: flexy
50mg is a lot...usually people start out w/ 20mg...why did he give you 50mg?

I just picked my refill up. It was 25mg I was taking. My bad.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: jjsole
Its unfortunate that so many people are dependent on anti-depressants to feel good.

What happened to good old fashion codependency and relying solely on other people's comments to dictate one's happiness and self-worth?

lol are you serious. its a chemical imbalance. a 'good job' from someone won't fix it.

No, I don't advocate codependency as an alternative to meds, lol.

As for meds, they absolutely can be the answer for many people.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: jjsole
Its unfortunate that so many people are dependent on anti-depressants to feel good.

What happened to good old fashion codependency and relying solely on other people's comments to dictate one's happiness and self-worth?

lol are you serious. its a chemical imbalance. a 'good job' from someone won't fix it.

No, I don't advocate codependency as an alternative to meds, lol.

As for meds, they absolutely can be the answer for many people.

so what the hell was the point of your first comment??

 

[nitrousninja]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: jjsole
Its unfortunate that so many people are dependent on anti-depressants to feel good.

What happened to good old fashion codependency and relying solely on other people's comments to dictate one's happiness and self-worth?

lol are you serious. its a chemical imbalance. a 'good job' from someone won't fix it.

No, I don't advocate codependency as an alternative to meds, lol.

As for meds, they absolutely can be the answer for many people.

so what the hell was the point of your first comment??

He was just kidding.

I'm not a fan of moving to drugs right away unless the case is severe but it's not my life so people can do what they want. I'm going to couseling for depression and codependancy and we're doing it without drugs unless they become necessary but I dont think I'll need them. I know it could take away the lows and craving for attention that I know is detrimental but I've staved it off so far.

If you're going to take anything get educated about it BEFORE taking it and understand the ins and outs of them. I would never just take drugs because a doctor recommended them.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: nitrousninja

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: jjsole
Its unfortunate that so many people are dependent on anti-depressants to feel good.

What happened to good old fashion codependency and relying solely on other people's comments to dictate one's happiness and self-worth?

lol are you serious. its a chemical imbalance. a 'good job' from someone won't fix it.

No, I don't advocate codependency as an alternative to meds, lol.

As for meds, they absolutely can be the answer for many people.

so what the hell was the point of your first comment??

He was just kidding.

I'm not a fan of moving to drugs right away unless the case is severe but it's not my life so people can do what they want. I'm going to couseling for depression and codependancy and we're doing it without drugs unless they become necessary but I dont think I'll need them. I know it could take away the lows and craving for attention that I know is detrimental but I've staved it off so far.

If you're going to take anything get educated about it BEFORE taking it and understand the ins and outs of them. I would never just take drugs because a doctor recommended them.

yeah i dunno where i fall though. i do feel meds should be taken after counseling and therapy, but studies have shown that meds + counseling work best and have the least amount of relapse.

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: nitrousninja


If you're going to take anything get educated about it BEFORE taking it and understand the ins and outs of them. I would never just take drugs because a doctor recommended them.

The problem is drug companies are not very forthcoming about the negatives of a drug. You really have to dig deep before taking any drug, and sometimes even that isn't enough. It is amazing how much drug companies get away with.

 

[MetalMat]

Alot of those anti-depressents are hell to get off of, only one that I have heard about that has no withdrawal symptoms is Wellbutrin.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: jjsole
Its unfortunate that so many people are dependent on anti-depressants to feel good.

What happened to good old fashion codependency and relying solely on other people's comments to dictate one's happiness and self-worth?

lol are you serious. its a chemical imbalance. a 'good job' from someone won't fix it.

No, I don't advocate codependency as an alternative to meds, lol.

As for meds, they absolutely can be the answer for many people.

so what the hell was the point of your first comment??

A little irony. Step back, I think you're standing too close to see it.

 

[KingGheedora]

Originally posted by: Analog
50mg is a huge dose. Paxil is now an old med, there are much betters SSRIs out there with much fewer side effects, such as Lexipro and Celexa. When your on any of these meds, it is important to slowly drop the dosage over a period of time for your body to adjust. Cold turkey is not the answer. Getting off Paxil is known to give people the "zaps" when they go cold turkey.

What are "zaps"?

 

[MidasKnight]

Originally posted by: KingGheedora

Originally posted by: Analog
50mg is a huge dose. Paxil is now an old med, there are much betters SSRIs out there with much fewer side effects, such as Lexipro and Celexa. When your on any of these meds, it is important to slowly drop the dosage over a period of time for your body to adjust. Cold turkey is not the answer. Getting off Paxil is known to give people the "zaps" when they go cold turkey.

What are "zaps"?

It's a sensation you feel in your head when your coming of Paxil to fast. Somewhat like little shocks going off in your brain.

 

[slightlyhuman]

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: jonnyGURU
So I'm a little edgy... angry... I'm pretty sure I've always been this way.

Drugs kill, period

Glad you're off of them

/facepalm

 

[JohnCU]

Originally posted by: MidasKnight

Originally posted by: KingGheedora

Originally posted by: Analog
50mg is a huge dose. Paxil is now an old med, there are much betters SSRIs out there with much fewer side effects, such as Lexipro and Celexa. When your on any of these meds, it is important to slowly drop the dosage over a period of time for your body to adjust. Cold turkey is not the answer. Getting off Paxil is known to give people the "zaps" when they go cold turkey.

What are "zaps"?

It's a sensation you feel in your head when your coming of Paxil to fast. Somewhat like little shocks going off in your brain.

they lasted about 3 weeks for me

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: MetalMat
Alot of those anti-depressents are hell to get off of, only one that I have heard about that has no withdrawal symptoms is Wellbutrin.

Your doctor should be telling you of the side effects. Most doctors do but most people don't listen.

 

[meltdown75]

sorry to revive an ancient thread but i just wanna say that i'm really glad i found it. i knew i could count on ATOT for insight