Pat Robertson: Haiti earthquake is divine retribution for a pact with the devil

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Fundamentalist in the original sense of the word - believing the fundamentals of what the Bible says. The word has lately been co-opted by a subgroup and come to mean "extremist" but I cling to the original meaning, even though I know it's a futile effort. :)

Aye, when i think of fundamentalist Christians i think of the kind where ideology means more than actions and where women are considered less worth than men, especially as children or in marriage, or that gays should not be equal to heterosexualis in society, or that a woman who isn't religious should be forced by religion to give up the right to her own body...

You know, that extremist stuff....

Sorry, i just had to say that.
 

kage69

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Did the President closely and personally align himself with Robertson? Yeah, that makes it a SLIGHT distinction there.

Funny you should mention it, Pat Robertson enjoyed a relationship with Bush which FAR exceeded the one between Obama and Wright. How many times has Wright dined with Obama at the White House? What role does Wright have in Obama's policy making?

Not trying to derail, just noting another double-standard...
 
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AreaCode707

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Aye, when i think of fundamentalist Christians i think of the kind where ideology means more than actions and where women are considered less worth than men, especially as children or in marriage, or that gays should not be equal to heterosexualis in society, or that a woman who isn't religious should be forced by religion to give up the right to her own body...

You know, that extremist stuff....

Sorry, i just had to say that.

I think extremists are defined by the ways they enact their opinions in the world, not necessarily by the opinions they hold. It's the right of each person to believe as they will.

Extremist: Bombs abortion clinics
Non-Extremist: May still think abortion is a sin but engages the world through dialogue.

Extremist: Tells people God hates f*** and tries to legislate against the lifestyle
Non-Extremist: Treats people of all sexual orientation and lifestyle as equals (sinners loved by God and offered his mercy) regardless of their understanding of where sin and sexuality intersect

So I actually do support a pro-life perspective, but I don't consider myself an extremist simply because I have that view. I think it's vital to conduct myself remembering that I, with the faults and sins in my own life, am in no position to point fingers at anyone.
 

dmcowen674

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Republican Evangelist Pat Robertson and Rush Limbaugh say Haitians deserve Earthquake

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/31...uX2hlYWRsaW5lX2xpc3QEc2xrA2xpbWJhdWdoam9pbg--


Speaking about the disaster during his program “The 700 Club” on the Christian Broadcasting Network, Robertson said that when Haiti was still a French colony its leaders “swore a pact to the devil” to get out from “under the heel of the French.”

Speaking on his radio show Wednesday, Limbaugh said the earthquake has played into Obama’s hands, allowing the president to look “compassionate” and “humanitarian” while at the same time bolstering his standing in both the “light-skinned and dark-skinned black community in this country.”
He added: “We've already donated to Haiti. It’s called the U.S. income tax.”
 

dahunan

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Republican Evangelist Pat Robertson and Rush Limbaugh say Haitians deserve Earthquake

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/31...uX2hlYWRsaW5lX2xpc3QEc2xrA2xpbWJhdWdoam9pbg--


Speaking about the disaster during his program “The 700 Club” on the Christian Broadcasting Network, Robertson said that when Haiti was still a French colony its leaders “swore a pact to the devil” to get out from “under the heel of the French.”

Speaking on his radio show Wednesday, Limbaugh said the earthquake has played into Obama’s hands, allowing the president to look “compassionate” and “humanitarian” while at the same time bolstering his standing in both the “light-skinned and dark-skinned black community in this country.”
He added: “We've already donated to Haiti. It’s called the U.S. income tax.”

And neither one of them will lose any listeners... can you imagine the animals that listen to this shit and tune in again day after day...
 
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I think extremists are defined by the ways they enact their opinions in the world, not necessarily by the opinions they hold. It's the right of each person to believe as they will.

Extremist: Bombs abortion clinics
Non-Extremist: May still think abortion is a sin but engages the world through dialogue.

Extremist: Tells people God hates f*** and tries to legislate against the lifestyle
Non-Extremist: Treats people of all sexual orientation and lifestyle as equals (sinners loved by God and offered his mercy) regardless of their understanding of where sin and sexuality intersect

So I actually do support a pro-life perspective, but I don't consider myself an extremist simply because I have that view. I think it's vital to conduct myself remembering that I, with the faults and sins in my own life, am in no position to point fingers at anyone.

I'd say it's more like this:

Extremist: Believes that what he/she believes is always right for EVERYONE and should be law.
Non-Extremist: Knows that faith is a personal thing and applies only to him/herself.

You are not an extremist as long as you don't expect others to live their lives according to YOUR faith, that is the only point i'm making.

I didn't mean to label you as an extremist, i've never considered you one, that wasn't my point at all. I believe you to be a good person and one of the very few that do take the good points from Christianity (and there are many) rather than using it as a bat to smash others over the head with.
 

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Forgive me here the christian talk here lately with haiti thing and Patty boys remarks .

I would like to ask a Christian Type question , Because as its been pointed out many times I be ignorant.

This be my question . When Christ was Fasting in the desert and the Devil visited him In privacy .What did the devil offer Christ. After you ans. that . What at that Time was consider the ans to the first question . Than after you ans that , Tell me how the devil could make the Lord of light such an offer and deliver .
 

sandorski

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Forgive me here the christian talk here lately with haiti thing and Patty boys remarks .

I would like to ask a Christian Type question , Because as its been pointed out many times I be ignorant.

This be my question . When Christ was Fasting in the desert and the Devil visited him In privacy .What did the devil offer Christ. After you ans. that . What at that Time was consider the ans to the first question . Than after you ans that , Tell me how the devil could make the Lord of light such an offer and deliver .

Freedom from the French. Jesus replied, "Like Dude, the French won't be around for at least 1000 years". The Devil said, "Ahh crap, I forgot. Wanna get shook?". Jesus replied, "No thanks guy, I'm good". Devil said, "Aight, see ya in 3 years" and walked away.
 
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Freedom from the French. Jesus replied, "Like Dude, the French won't be around for at least 1000 years". The Devil said, "Ahh crap, I forgot. Wanna get shook?". Jesus replied, "No thanks guy, I'm good". Devil said, "Aight, see ya in 3 years" and walked away.

Now there are two things that are good about you, first one is your support of the worlds greatest hockey team (do i have to tell you how hard it is to be English and thinking that hockey is the only true sport?) and you're funny.

:D
 
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Forgive me here the christian talk here lately with haiti thing and Patty boys remarks .

I would like to ask a Christian Type question , Because as its been pointed out many times I be ignorant.

This be my question . When Christ was Fasting in the desert and the Devil visited him In privacy .What did the devil offer Christ. After you ans. that . What at that Time was consider the ans to the first question . Than after you ans that , Tell me how the devil could make the Lord of light such an offer and deliver .

Devil: New Jersey OWNS!
Jesus: No they don't! *invents Vancouver Canucks who beat the sheit out of the Devils*
 

sandorski

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Now there are two things that are good about you, first one is your support of the worlds greatest hockey team (do i have to tell you how hard it is to be English and thinking that hockey is the only true sport?) and you're funny.

:D

I can imagine it would be difficult. After all, you never hear of British Hockey Hooligans!

Thanks, I try to be.
 
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I can imagine it would be difficult. After all, you never hear of British Hockey Hooligans!

Thanks, I try to be.

No one has ever heard of our hockey teams, including every Englishman who doesn't play in one. ;)

Still, it's the only sport i've ever found interesting, i couldn't care less about the fighting but a well played game does involve a few crosscheckings and slashings when needed anyway.

I think i'll ask them to stop the war for the Olympics, at least when Canada is playing.
 

sandorski

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No one has ever heard of our hockey teams, including every Englishman who doesn't play in one. ;)

Still, it's the only sport i've ever found interesting, i couldn't care less about the fighting but a well played game does involve a few crosscheckings and slashings when needed anyway.

I think i'll ask them to stop the war for the Olympics, at least when Canada is playing.

If things went really badly for the Canadian Team, you might just be re-deployed here to quell the uprising. :D
 

Nemesis 1

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Thanks my wife just had to hand me a nice new $100 dollar bill. I said these guys couldn't come up with the ans in the time the JEWS say creation took place 6 days . 6 ans. Oh! I did not get a good night kiss either, LOL
 
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If things went really badly for the Canadian Team, you might just be re-deployed here to quell the uprising. :D

Hehe, i know Hockey is a big thing in Canada but honestly, considering this years teams who could beat you, not Russia or the US, that much is clear, perhaps the Swedes but they lack Sundin this time around.

My money is on Canada.... Though if i would get to be re-deployed to Canada instead of Afghanistan i'd cheer for ano... naw, i'd still cheer for Canada.
 
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Thanks my wife just had to hand me a nice new $100 dollar bill. I said these guys couldn't come up with the ans in the time the JEWS say creation took place 6 days . 6 ans. Oh! I did not get a good night kiss either, LOL

This thread is now about hockey so either discuss that or go away.
 

Avvocato Effetti

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Is Robertson onto something here?

After reviewing Wikipedia and researching the links, I find that Haiti has a significant voodoo influence. Please study it for yourself.

What Pat is saying won’t make any sense to the Heathen or the immature Christian.

For the mature Christian, Pat’s words make Faith.

Pat’s point is well taken that a Nation based on voodoo will suffer. A Nation based on Christ has to come to the rescue.

America is good.

Haiti is evil.
 
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Nemesis 1

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Pat is making a huge mistake showing his true self . Pat is passing Judgement . Only GOD sets in the seat of Judgement. Bad bad mistake by pat.
 

Avvocato Effetti

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Pat is making a huge mistake showing his true self . Pat is passing Judgement . Only GOD sets in the seat of Judgement. Bad bad mistake by pat.
Pat is an honorable man and a true soldier in cause of Christ.

You are correct that God and God alone is the final judge. You should also acknowledge that, at that final judgement that you cite, Jesus, Pat and me will be sitting on God’s right. That’s correct, I’ll be there.

The judgement that is God’s and God’s alone is the decision to grant entrance to heaven. You seem to know a lot about the Code. Please share with us the one act in a mans life that will provide prima facie evidence that entrance into Heaven is the correct judgement?

As far as judging other issues. It is up to the Christian to judge all things on this Earth.

After examining the facts, my judgement concerning Haiti is that it was founded on the spirit of the Anti Christ. Therefore, that Nation will not receive my monetary support.

The individual people will receive my support.
 
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Pat is an honorable man and a true soldier in cause of Christ.

You are correct that God and God alone is the final judge. You should also acknowledge that, at that final judgement that you cite, Jesus, Pat and me will be sitting on God’s right. That’s correct, I’ll be there.

The judgement that is God’s and God’s alone is the decision to grant entrance to heaven. You seem to know a lot about the Code. Please share with us the one act in a mans life that will provide prima facie evidence that entrance into Heaven is the correct judgement?

As far as judging other issues. It is up to the Christian to judge all things on this Earth.

After examining the facts, my judgement concerning Haiti is that it was founded on the spirit of the Anti Christ. Therefore, that Nation will not receive my monetary support.

The individual people will receive my support.

trolling is an art. keep working at it, one day you'll succeed.
 

KMFJD

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No one has ever heard of our hockey teams, including every Englishman who doesn't play in one. ;)

Still, it's the only sport i've ever found interesting, i couldn't care less about the fighting but a well played game does involve a few crosscheckings and slashings when needed anyway.

I think i'll ask them to stop the war for the Olympics, at least when Canada is playing.

Belfast Giants!

/Theo FLeury played for them 1 year