Parents transitioning their 3 year old boy

[LegendKiller]

I didn't realize you supported child abuse and sympathized with parents who committed it.

Do you think they care that 70-80% go back to their biologically driven gender and 40% of the remaining 20% kill themselves?

But hey, 12% correct diagnosis (if that) is A-OK for liberals.

So for a 1 out of 8 chance they are willing to permanently fuck up a kid for life, from the age of 3.

Sheer insanity.

You might as well just feed the kid lead paint chips, drop them on their heads, or mentally/physically abuse them because all you're doing is creating a fucked up person the vast majority of the time.

Great job guys, hope you enjoy pushing 88% of children to a fucked up place in life.

 

[LegendKiller]

meh.

 

[ivwshane]

Do you think they care that 70-80% go back to their biologically driven gender and 40% of the remaining 20% kill themselves?

But hey, 12% correct diagnosis (if that) is A-OK for liberals.

So for a 1 out of 8 chance they are willing to permanently fuck up a kid for life, from the age of 3.

Sheer insanity.

You might as well just feed the kid lead paint chips, drop them on their heads, or mentally/physically abuse them because all you're doing is creating a fucked up person the vast majority of the time.

Great job guys, hope you enjoy pushing 88% of children to a fucked up place in life.

Yeah, we are the psychotic ones. Look up David Reimer you tool.

Psychology is a soft science dominated by people who are fucked in the head and/or have a major agenda that cannot be checked by the scientific method. Why? Because in cases like this you cannot refer to some statistical analysis showing x causes y, or some proven theorem, or law. You rely on Dr. X's bullshit theories on how things should be and those are often driven by political or societal drives.

Lol!

 

[LegendKiller]

Lol!

It just proves what I said. Supposed psychology experts address their own theories as to how things work. They are wrong and then fail to admit it, largely because of societal agendas. They are so wrong they end up fucking up 88% of the time.

Show me 100% scientifically repeatable, peer reviewed, and solidly grounded evidence that a *BIOLOGICAL* and provable construct makes people want to become something other than what they are born with and I'll believe it.

Otherwise it's just soft science mind games and the 88% rejection rate proves it.

 

[ivwshane]

It just proves what I said. Supposed psychology experts address their own theories as to how things work. They are wrong and then fail to admit it, largely because of societal agendas. They are so wrong they end up fucking up 88% of the time.

Show me 100% scientifically repeatable, peer reviewed, and solidly grounded evidence that a *BIOLOGICAL* and provable construct makes people want to become something other than what they are born with and I'll believe it.

Otherwise it's just soft science mind games and the 88% rejection rate proves it.

I get it, psychology experts, of which you are one, are quacks and are wrong most of the time.

You forget you're arguing with liberals, all they need to do is read the comments off of a Huffington Post article and they become the worlds expert on any subject.

This comment just keeps on getting funnier!

 

[WHAMPOM]

We need a new rulr here: READ THE OP"s LINK BEFORE POSTING YOUR COMMENTS.

 

[LegendKiller]

I get it, psychology experts, of which you are one, are quacks and are wrong most of the time.



This comment just keeps on getting funnier!

Yes, because a 12% success rate just exemplifies their solid grounding in science and understanding the human psyche.

In pretty much every measurement, being right 12% of the time means you're a fucking failure. Only people like you sit on the sidelines, ignoring reality, and cheering on the trainwreck we are making of people, all in the name of PC bullshit.

 

[waggy]

personally i find it amazing people are ok with transitioning a 3 yr old..

those that are ok with it have you had a child?

 

[ivwshane]

Yes, because a 12% success rate just exemplifies their solid grounding in science and understanding the human psyche.

In pretty much every measurement, being right 12% of the time means you're a fucking failure. Only people like you sit on the sidelines, ignoring reality, and cheering on the trainwreck we are making of people, all in the name of PC bullshit.

Since you seem to be utterly clueless...what's your success rate on the subject?

 

[EduCat]

So what you are saying is that when you put on the dress your parents scolded you and asked if you were some kind of lovely human? Or when you looked at your mom like you did you were scolded and told to stop being a pervert?

I'm just asking because in your personal story, it sure seemed like your parents were ok with your "odd" behavior and I can only assume that because they didn't scold you or put you down that you must be one fucked up individual. Just how many times have you tried to kill yourslef?

lol. Everyone got a good laugh out of it. There is a picture of me in it somewhere happy as can be. hah I did have a sister 4 years older than me so there were always barbies and what not all over the place. Even though I wished it was red, I thought the barbie corvette was a pretty sweet car. It rolled real good too.

Who knows what my parents said to each other in private, but what I do know is that they didn't start calling me by a different name, nor did they ask me if i wanted to put a skirt on instead of pants. I'm sure at some point my dad/mom/sister told me boys don't wear skirts, but they never scolded me or called me a lovely human, pervert, etc. They really didn't prevent me from doing it either, tho. In fact my parents were very, very liberal. You don't have to put your children down or call them slurs in order to get the 'behavior' you want. It's as simple as, 'Put your pants on and then we'll go to the park.' In the end the child really doesn't give a shit about whether it's pants or a skirt, they just want to go to the park. Sad he is a boy? lol geez. I don't have kids of my own, but I reckon there are literally thousands of things you could tell a 3 yr old boy that could make him happy he was a boy again. The whole 'situation' could have been over and done with almost instantly.

If you're argument is that we as a society should let small children 'take control' of their 'gender' then I guess we will just have to agree to disagree. If you're argument is that kids should be able to play with whatever color items they want, I agree with that 100%. If you're argument is that because he likes fairy wings and pink boots that he is all of a sudden transgender, I disagree. He's not a girl, but just a little boy that likes pink boots and fairies. IMO once Jack's nuts drop and he has fully realized his sexuality he can decide for himself if he wants to be called Jackie. (Im cool with that) There is a diff between a boy/girl and a man/woman. Will Jackie still shop in the mens shoe dept? I don't know.

Not only that, but could a 3 year old even really tell you the difference between a boy and a girl? I doubt it. Don't get me wrong, little kids these days are smart as shit, but they can't really tell you much about the world. Not at 3. If they are all transgender'd out then the parents have been feeding into the kids 'emotion', there is no doubt about that. At some point the parent needs to lovingly guide the child so they can best adapt to this world. Making an event of something like this is very dangerous IMO. I just tried to think of more dangerous things that a parent could do, at this age, but each scenario I pondered resulted in someone else actually saving the child. In this scenario, no one can really save the kid from parenting like this. (maybe relatives will be like wtf?) Do the parents say 'yes' to anything? Talk about feeding into an addictive personality right out of the box. Hopefully Jack will snap out of this phase himself one day without too much damage. Looks pretty instilled tho at this point, not sure how old he (she?) is now.

I'm a big liberal and don't think it's really a liberal/conservative issue lol. If I have a son one day and he does not contain any lady parts what so ever, I will raise him as a man until he can control his parts himself. Once he can do that, I will support him in whatever he chooses.

Parenting will be very hard in the future I guess. It seems that only Jackie's sister still knows her sister is really her brother. Calling little kids 'alpha-males' in the article lol good lord. They do look like a happy family tho so I guess it's whatever. The future is going to be wild lol.

 

[waggy]

lol. Everyone got a good laugh out of it. There is a picture of me in it somewhere happy as can be. hah I did have a sister 4 years older than me so there were always barbies and what not all over the place. Even though I wished it was red, I thought the barbie corvette was a pretty sweet car. It rolled real good too.

Who knows what my parents said to each other in private, but what I do know is that they didn't start calling me by a different name, nor did they ask me if i wanted to put a skirt on instead of pants. I'm sure at some point my dad/mom/sister told me boys don't wear skirts, but they never scolded me or called me a lovely human, pervert, etc. They really didn't prevent me from doing it either, tho. In fact my parents were very, very liberal. You don't have to put your children down or call them slurs in order to get the 'behavior' you want. It's as simple as, 'Put your pants on and then we'll go to the park.' In the end the child really doesn't give a shit about whether it's pants or a skirt, they just want to go to the park. Sad he is a boy? lol geez. I don't have kids of my own, but I reckon there are literally thousands of things you could tell a 3 yr old boy that could make him happy he was a boy again. The whole 'situation' could have been over and done with almost instantly.

If you're argument is that we as a society should let small children 'take control' of their 'gender' then I guess we will just have to agree to disagree. If you're argument is that kids should be able to play with whatever color items they want, I agree with that 100%. If you're argument is that because he likes fairy wings and pink boots that he is all of a sudden transgender, I disagree. He's not a girl, but just a little boy that likes pink boots and fairies. IMO once Jack's nuts drop and he has fully realized his sexuality he can decide for himself if he wants to be called Jackie. (Im cool with that) There is a diff between a boy/girl and a man/woman. Will Jackie still shop in the mens shoe dept? I don't know.

Not only that, but could a 3 year old even really tell you the difference between a boy and a girl? I doubt it. Don't get me wrong, little kids these days are smart as shit, but they can't really tell you much about the world. Not at 3. If they are all transgender'd out then the parents have been feeding into the kids 'emotion', there is no doubt about that. At some point the parent needs to lovingly guide the child so they can best adapt to this world. Making an event of something like this is very dangerous IMO. I just tried to think of more dangerous things that a parent could do, at this age, but each scenario I pondered resulted in someone else actually saving the child. In this scenario, no one can really save the kid from parenting like this. (maybe relatives will be like wtf?) Do the parents say 'yes' to anything? Talk about feeding into an addictive personality right out of the box. Hopefully Jack will snap out of this phase himself one day without too much damage. Looks pretty instilled tho at this point, not sure how old he (she?) is now.

I'm a big liberal and don't think it's really a liberal/conservative issue lol. If I have a son one day and he does not contain any lady parts what so ever, I will raise him as a man until he can control his parts himself. Once he can do that, I will support him in whatever he chooses.

Parenting will be very hard in the future I guess. It seems that only Jackie's sister still knows her sister is really her brother. Calling little kids 'alpha-males' in the article lol good lord. They do look like a happy family tho so I guess it's whatever. The future is going to be wild lol.

good for you for not taking the bait. he did not want to discuss it in a civil matter with you.


and yes. that barbie car was fricken awesome. who doesn't want a corvette?

 

[ivwshane]

So other than these parents doing exactly what your parents did, you draw the line when they start calling their child a different name? Imagine the psychological issues you would have had if your parents called you a different name when you dressed like a girl! /s

lol. Everyone got a good laugh out of it. There is a picture of me in it somewhere happy as can be. hah I did have a sister 4 years older than me so there were always barbies and what not all over the place. Even though I wished it was red, I thought the barbie corvette was a pretty sweet car. It rolled real good too.

Who knows what my parents said to each other in private, but what I do know is that they didn't start calling me by a different name, nor did they ask me if i wanted to put a skirt on instead of pants. I'm sure at some point my dad/mom/sister told me boys don't wear skirts, but they never scolded me or called me a lovely human, pervert, etc. They really didn't prevent me from doing it either, tho. In fact my parents were very, very liberal. You don't have to put your children down or call them slurs in order to get the 'behavior' you want. It's as simple as, 'Put your pants on and then we'll go to the park.' In the end the child really doesn't give a shit about whether it's pants or a skirt, they just want to go to the park. Sad he is a boy? lol geez. I don't have kids of my own, but I reckon there are literally thousands of things you could tell a 3 yr old boy that could make him happy he was a boy again. The whole 'situation' could have been over and done with almost instantly.

If you're argument is that we as a society should let small children 'take control' of their 'gender' then I guess we will just have to agree to disagree. If you're argument is that kids should be able to play with whatever color items they want, I agree with that 100%. If you're argument is that because he likes fairy wings and pink boots that he is all of a sudden transgender, I disagree. He's not a girl, but just a little boy that likes pink boots and fairies. IMO once Jack's nuts drop and he has fully realized his sexuality he can decide for himself if he wants to be called Jackie. (Im cool with that) There is a diff between a boy/girl and a man/woman. Will Jackie still shop in the mens shoe dept? I don't know.

Not only that, but could a 3 year old even really tell you the difference between a boy and a girl? I doubt it. Don't get me wrong, little kids these days are smart as shit, but they can't really tell you much about the world. Not at 3. If they are all transgender'd out then the parents have been feeding into the kids 'emotion', there is no doubt about that. At some point the parent needs to lovingly guide the child so they can best adapt to this world. Making an event of something like this is very dangerous IMO. I just tried to think of more dangerous things that a parent could do, at this age, but each scenario I pondered resulted in someone else actually saving the child. In this scenario, no one can really save the kid from parenting like this. (maybe relatives will be like wtf?) Do the parents say 'yes' to anything? Talk about feeding into an addictive personality right out of the box. Hopefully Jack will snap out of this phase himself one day without too much damage. Looks pretty instilled tho at this point, not sure how old he (she?) is now.

I'm a big liberal and don't think it's really a liberal/conservative issue lol. If I have a son one day and he does not contain any lady parts what so ever, I will raise him as a man until he can control his parts himself. Once he can do that, I will support him in whatever he chooses.

Parenting will be very hard in the future I guess. It seems that only Jackie's sister still knows her sister is really her brother. Calling little kids 'alpha-males' in the article lol good lord. They do look like a happy family tho so I guess it's whatever. The future is going to be wild lol.

 

[EduCat]

So other than these parents doing exactly what your parents did, you draw the line when they start calling their child a different name? Imagine the psychological issues you would have had if your parents called you a different name when you dressed like a girl! /s

I draw the line pretty much when you entertain the idea with your 3 yr old for more than 2 whole minutes. What else makes the child sad? smh...

:edit: Who knows what psych issues I would have had if my parents would have moved cross country to raise me as a girl, only to find out I love the cooter. Glad I didn't have to find out, life is hard enough learning from your own mistakes.

 

[ivwshane]

I draw the line pretty much when you entertain the idea with your 3 yr old for more than 2 whole minutes. What else makes the child sad? smh...

I guess you didn't learn anything from your parents.

 

[Sonikku]

Trying to justify teaching a 3yo to act as if they are the opposite sex just makes you look crazy.

All your words (bla bla bla) just make it worse.

How does one "act" female at three years old and how do you teach them? Provide extra frilly run and jump exercises?

 

[TechBoyJK]

How does one "act" female at three years old and how do you teach them? Provide extra frilly run and jump exercises?

The thread title is about an example.

They literally discuss the example in the OP article.

 

[Blue_Max]

We as a society have come a long way.

"I'm sad because I'm a boy."
-We need to help support your choice to be a girl!

"I'm sad because I'm a girl."
-We need to help support who you are, help you be proud being a girl!

I'm not at all surprised all the SJW's chose to ignore this statement (and hoped no one else brings it up.)

It's very true. And no, it's NOT a good thing.


Moving right along, this is what the poor kid has to look forward to thanks to likely-SJW-mommy pushing this extensive surgery on him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s653b8v8024 (skip to about 4:00.)
Visual aids for the win.

 

[Moonbeam]

I'm not at all surprised all the SJW's chose to ignore this statement (and hoped no one else brings it up.)

It's very true. And no, it's NOT a good thing.


Moving right along, this is what the poor kid has to look forward to thanks to likely-SJW-mommy pushing this extensive surgery on him:

You were probably judged by your acne rather than the acuity of your brain. You seem smart enough but something is very off in your personality.

 

[Jaskalas]

Who's forcing what now? You wouldn't happen to be talking out of your ass again now would you?

1: Adhere to social constructs, giving the girl a dress.
2: Think the boy should be a girl when emulating older sibling.
3: Changing the boy's name and attempting to add permanence to what should be a forgotten flight of fancy.

This is entirely the parent's doing from A-Z. Imprinting their idea of gender on their children and encouraging gender dysphoria when there otherwise might be none. I give a solid chance that the 3yr old boy knows nothing of gender and merely wants to be as awesome as his sister.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Do you think they care that 70-80% go back to their biologically driven gender and 40% of the remaining 20% kill themselves?

But hey, 12% correct diagnosis (if that) is A-OK for liberals.

So for a 1 out of 8 chance they are willing to permanently fuck up a kid for life, from the age of 3.

Sheer insanity.

You might as well just feed the kid lead paint chips, drop them on their heads, or mentally/physically abuse them because all you're doing is creating a fucked up person the vast majority of the time.

Great job guys, hope you enjoy pushing 88% of children to a fucked up place in life.

Any source on that reversion rate?

 

[halik]

When I was a kid, i would dress up as a dog. I'm glad my parents had common sense, otherwise I'd be spending my time in a kennel right now.

LK: Got a link for the stats? I would include to believe them, given the amount counseling needed to be approved for sex reassignment surgery.

 

[Annisman*]

You were probably judged by your acne rather than the acuity of your brain. You seem smart enough but something is very off in your personality.

do me next

 

[LegendKiller]

When I was a kid, i would dress up as a dog. I'm glad my parents had common sense, otherwise I'd be spending my time in a kennel right now.

LK: Got a link for the stats? I would include to believe them, given the amount counseling needed to be approved for sex reassignment surgery.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/paul-mchugh-transgender-surgery-isnt-the-solution-1402615120

http://articles.latimes.com/2014/ja...uicide-attempts-alarming-transgender-20140127

What's truly sad about this situation is that the SJWs will run around and believe whatever they want, despite the truth smacking them in the face, hard, with a massive sausage that they encourage people to split.

The medical evidence and post-op performance shows that this is a *MENTAL* issue for the vast majority of cases. However, the SJWs push these people, encouraging them the whole way, saying how wonderful this situation will be, but it won't. It doesn't fix it. Why? Because it isn't a physical, or biological problem, it is a *MENTAL* problem. However, according to SJWs, anybody who treats it as a mental problem and tries to counsel that is not letting the person be "who they are". It's seen as torture.

And kids, who are massively impressionable, grow up to think this is "normal". Which is why you get so many bandwagon jumpers (hence the reversion rate later). Since kids also want to be special I believe they "join in" to a special class that is now seen as "brave" and "heroic". Parents, not wanting to "torture" their kids, go along with it, despite the overwhelming evidence that IT DOES NOT HELP. Thus, they create kids who are massively fucked up and eventually kill themselves after they aren't seen as "special" when the lights fade and their left alone and conflicted.

So you get this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer



But hey, let's just go with flowery "feelings" and SJW PC agendas rather than the cold hard truth of numbers.


At the end of the day, I support individual rights. If somebody truly wants to do this, how is it up to me to stop them? However, cheering it on like it is "normal" is utterly fucked up. And encouraging it in a 3yr old, who has no fucking clue, is child abuse of the highest order.

 

[Blue_Max]

However, cheering it on like it is "normal" is utterly fucked up. And encouraging it in a 3yr old, who has no fucking clue, is child abuse of the highest order.

Exactly. They're very nearly FORCING it on a kid who doesn't know better. A kid who'd like chocolate cake for breakfast, but it's a sensible parent's job to do what's best for the child - not their own selfish agendas.
Show him the same video of the gutted sausage being emptied with a melon-baller and he might change his mind... It won't be the "simple, miraculous transformation" he's being promised by the usual suspects.

Extensive, complicated surgery.
And hair inside the newly-inverted windsock.
And constant infections.
And constant hormone treatments.
And touch-up surgeries to keep it in working order.
...oh, and gangrene.

Watch the dang video and see the SJW bullcrap for exactly what it is; utterly false propaganda.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s653b8v8024 << that link again. Pure facts at 4:00, list of risks at 6:00, awesome visuals at 8:00

Sorry SJW's - as usual, you don't have a leg to stand on.

 

[waggy]

http://www.wsj.com/articles/paul-mchugh-transgender-surgery-isnt-the-solution-1402615120

http://articles.latimes.com/2014/ja...uicide-attempts-alarming-transgender-20140127

What's truly sad about this situation is that the SJWs will run around and believe whatever they want, despite the truth smacking them in the face, hard, with a massive sausage that they encourage people to split.

The medical evidence and post-op performance shows that this is a *MENTAL* issue for the vast majority of cases. However, the SJWs push these people, encouraging them the whole way, saying how wonderful this situation will be, but it won't. It doesn't fix it. Why? Because it isn't a physical, or biological problem, it is a *MENTAL* problem. However, according to SJWs, anybody who treats it as a mental problem and tries to counsel that is not letting the person be "who they are". It's seen as torture.

And kids, who are massively impressionable, grow up to think this is "normal". Which is why you get so many bandwagon jumpers (hence the reversion rate later). Since kids also want to be special I believe they "join in" to a special class that is now seen as "brave" and "heroic". Parents, not wanting to "torture" their kids, go along with it, despite the overwhelming evidence that IT DOES NOT HELP. Thus, they create kids who are massively fucked up and eventually kill themselves after they aren't seen as "special" when the lights fade and their left alone and conflicted.

So you get this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer



But hey, let's just go with flowery "feelings" and SJW PC agendas rather than the cold hard truth of numbers.


At the end of the day, I support individual rights. If somebody truly wants to do this, how is it up to me to stop them? However, cheering it on like it is "normal" is utterly fucked up. And encouraging it in a 3yr old, who has no fucking clue, is child abuse of the highest order.

david reimer is a perfect example of why i suggest taking it slow. A child of 3 can not correctly tell you what he/she is or wants to be. he/she is in the period of wanting everything and learning exactly what they are.

I fear that the parents are making a very tragic mistake. this is not just give the child drugs and medical procedures.

This goes against what i would think trans people say all the time. You can't change what you are. so if they are wrong (again going by what a 3 yr old does?) they just fucked that child up pretty bad.

It seems so many are trying to be PC and supportive. This is a 3 yr old.

Again those that are for this. Have you guys had a child?