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lordtyranus

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Originally posted by: yobarman
i was gonna say, "Let you son pimp on!" but nah. Everyone from a young male's point of view, the age different is too great. I feel just the same about this if the age was swtiched around for either sex.

And what kind of 21 year old tries to get with a 14 year old kid. Pathetic!

If it was my daughter I'd be furious. But since its a boy, well, I'd let him pimp on.

You know as well as I do that he wants it, if I remember 3/4 of 14 year olds are flat and probably bad in the sack too.

 

WyteWatt

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Originally posted by: shimsham
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: imtim83
Deeko and YankeezXBA you all are so sick its not even funny. A 14 year old is not even suppose to do that. You people live in a very sick world.


badmouse did the right thing.

It is only modern american social constructs derived from puritan extreme religious views which have established that notion. Even 50 years ago marriage at 14-16 was common worldwide. Before 1800 12 was ripe and ready. Certainly this was partially due to shortened lifespan at the time, but moreover it's a function of common tradition.

You can certainly name many reasons why waiting till you're older is better/safer for marriage, childbirth, sex, etc...but you can come up with just about as many reasons to go ahead and do it. What it comes down to is personal choice and the person that makes that choice is the individual, NOT the parent. I accept this fact, even about my own daughter, though it will likely cause some pain I believe it's better overall for growth and understanding.

In short, believe whatever you want, but accept that it's a personal belief with no truth beyond your own flesh.


while what you say is true about the age being much younger, choices made at those ages have much dire consequences in the modern day us. back then youd get married at 14 because farmer john up the road needed a "woman" to clean and have little johns to work the farm/family business, and take care of him in his old age. not to mention that way too many times, young women were severly mistreated in those situations.

these days, if a boy or girl gets pregnant at 14 ( as my wifes nephew did knocking up his gf of 15), i think we can all say that statistically their potential in life becomes severly limited if not all washed away.

but hey, let em go bang it and catch herpes. its all natural, whats the big deal? right....


shimsham exactly! Best point ever!

In that day and age they did have all of these STDs as well and now they do. So its more risky today and not good to do today because of the risk. If you carch a STD then spread it then how will you feel or what if someone else gave it to you? Then how would you feel? I would be mad. So by not doing it you don't have that problem ever!

So I say here here to not ever doing it!
 

WyteWatt

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Originally posted by: lordtyranus
Originally posted by: yobarman
i was gonna say, "Let you son pimp on!" but nah. Everyone from a young male's point of view, the age different is too great. I feel just the same about this if the age was swtiched around for either sex.

And what kind of 21 year old tries to get with a 14 year old kid. Pathetic!

If it was my daughter I'd be furious. But since its a boy, well, I'd let him pimp on.

Thats so wrong its not even funny.

It should be the same if its your son or daughter. You people are so sick and you wonder why we are in the world we are today. Ha.
 

lordtyranus

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Originally posted by: imtim83
Originally posted by: lordtyranus
Originally posted by: yobarman
i was gonna say, "Let you son pimp on!" but nah. Everyone from a young male's point of view, the age different is too great. I feel just the same about this if the age was swtiched around for either sex.

And what kind of 21 year old tries to get with a 14 year old kid. Pathetic!

If it was my daughter I'd be furious. But since its a boy, well, I'd let him pimp on.

Thats so wrong its not even funny.

It should be the same if its your son or daughter. You people are so sick and you wonder why we are in the world we are today. Ha.

Oh please. 14 year old girls do not think about getting laid. Most of them anyway.


To the OP: Would you rather have him shagging other 14 year olds? Clearly he's a stud, and could probably pick some up.

Poor kid could have been a hero at his school.
 

WyteWatt

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Originally posted by: lordtyranus
Originally posted by: imtim83
Originally posted by: lordtyranus
Originally posted by: yobarman
i was gonna say, "Let you son pimp on!" but nah. Everyone from a young male's point of view, the age different is too great. I feel just the same about this if the age was swtiched around for either sex.

And what kind of 21 year old tries to get with a 14 year old kid. Pathetic!

If it was my daughter I'd be furious. But since its a boy, well, I'd let him pimp on.

Thats so wrong its not even funny.

It should be the same if its your son or daughter. You people are so sick and you wonder why we are in the world we are today. Ha.

Oh please. 14 year old girls do not think about getting laid. Most of them anyway.


To the OP: Would you rather have him shagging other 14 year olds? Clearly he's a stud, and could probably pick some up.

Poor kid could have been a hero at his school.

You are one sick puppy
 

blahblah99

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Originally posted by: badmouse
My son (14) met this girl (21) last week. She's been calling him, etc. (Yes, she knew he was 14)

Last nite, Saturday, he asked if she could come over. I said no. At 7:30 he went for a "short" walk. At 11:30 he called, said he was at his dad's house & was going to spend the night there. I heard giggling.

(I'm divorced, dad is out of town)

I go to his dad's house. Girl is there, of course. I drive her home (half-hour away) and tell her that if she contacts my son again I'll call the police. (I DON'T rip her apart with my bare hands, but I wanted to.)

I also call my son's mutual friend who introduced them, and say the same thing: she stays away or else.

Son is grounded for life, or at least until I stop being livid.

ps.s Sorry no pix of girl but I wasn't thinking about a camera at the time.

Good stuff!!!

In this case I guess it was the right thing to do, BUT if I had a 14 yr old son who was seeing a 14 yr old girl, I'd let them be, just educate them about sex. I mean comon, he's going through puberty and the more you try to contain them, the more they'll do things behind your back.
 

Pandaren

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For once I agree with imtim83.

Hero or not, there are just too many possible negative consequences for a person of that age (14) to be banging a 21 yr old woman. STDs and pregnancy are reason enough to prevent it. A responsible parent's job is to raise their child into a responsible adult.

It's attitudes like "he'd be a hero" at school that cause moral collapse.

Originally posted by: imtim83
You are one sick puppy

 

Deeko

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imtim you fvcking dork, I was just joking around, but good god calm the fvck down. "you wonder why we are in the world we're in today" because someone mentions that 14 year olds can have sex??? Good god you'v got some problems if you think thats whats wrong with society.
 
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Originally posted by: Pandaren
For once I agree with imtim83.

Hero or not, there are just too many possible negative consequences for a person of that age (14) to be banging a 21 yr old woman. STDs and pregnancy are reason enough to prevent it. A responsible parent's job is to raise their child into a responsible adult.

It's attitudes like "he'd be a hero" at school that cause moral collapse.

Originally posted by: imtim83
You are one sick puppy

I hate to tell everyone this, but STD's have NOTHING to do with age or morality. They're purely a bilogical situation, which are preventable with caution and common sense...which is why STD rates are so low today compared with a couple hundred years ago.

You can have every 13yr old sodomizing or sodomized by every 45 year old married person, and the ONLY ones who'll contract an STD are the ones who have sex with someone who already has one. Age, morality, etc do NOT figure in.

What we're dealing with is 100% a social stigma, nothing else.

I didn't go on a date till I was 16...never kissed a girl or held her hand until then. If I had it to do over again I would have been pimping at 12. No joke. I would have been more responsible than I was at certain times in my life, but I wouldn't have reduced the sex...in fact I'd do my best to triple it.
 

WyteWatt

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Originally posted by: Pandaren
For once I agree with imtim83.

Hero or not, there are just too many possible negative consequences for a person of that age (14) to be banging a 21 yr old woman. STDs and pregnancy are reason enough to prevent it. A responsible parent's job is to raise their child into a responsible adult.

It's attitudes like "he'd be a hero" at school that cause moral collapse.

Originally posted by: imtim83
You are one sick puppy

Another good soul! There not that many but at least there a few! God help us all.

 

Wingznut

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Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
I'm 32, have a degree, served in the military during time of war, and have children...I don't think there are many people who could define mature in a way that doesn't cover me. :cool:
Well, I'm sorry that I mistook you for a 15 year-old... It's just that is how you carry yourself.

A 14 year-old doesn't fully understand right from wrong, nor could he understand the possible implications of such actions.

Forbidding your child from taking part in actions that could have severe consequences is hardly "child abuse." Allowing your child to do whatever he/she pleases, is much more akin to that.


But thank you for answering my earlier question about what's wrong with people.

 

Gnurb

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Well like a couple of posters have said, if they're really interested in each other nothing you do except for physically tying your son down for the next 4 years is going to prevent it from happening.

Definitely have 'the talk' with your son and give him a pack of condoms, or ask the father to do it.
 

BadNewsBears

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Originally posted by: Muadib
I don't envy you badmouse. Your kid's gonna do anything & everything to be with that girl. Your best bet is to make sure he knows how to protect himself, because you can't be with him 24/7.

Exactly
 

Yolner

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Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
I'm 32, have a degree, served in the military during time of war, and have children...I don't think there are many people who could define mature in a way that doesn't cover me. :cool:
Well, I'm sorry that I mistook you for a 15 year-old... It's just that is how you carry yourself.

A 14 year-old doesn't fully understand right from wrong, nor could he understand the possible implications of such actions.

Forbidding your child from taking part in actions that could have severe consequences is hardly "child abuse." Allowing your child to do whatever he/she pleases, is much more akin to that.


But thank you for answering my earlier question about what's wrong with people.


Ohh please 14 year olds understand more than you think. When i was 14 i was probably more responsible than most people are at 18. Forbidding your child from doing something will just make them want to do it more. You won't be able to shield a kid from life. You have to tell them how to be safe and let them do their thing because if you dont they will just do it secretly.
 

midwestfisherman

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Originally posted by: Wingznut
From one parent to another... You did good. :thumbsup:

Be sure to threaten your ex-husband with contributing to the deliquincy of a minor, along with re-visiting his custodial rights, if he participates in the future.

I'll second that...

 

daveymark

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The 21 year old is the one who needs to be dealt with. I say invite her over so you can tell her to stay away, or you'll call the cops.
 
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Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
I'm 32, have a degree, served in the military during time of war, and have children...I don't think there are many people who could define mature in a way that doesn't cover me. :cool:
Well, I'm sorry that I mistook you for a 15 year-old... It's just that is how you carry yourself.

A 14 year-old doesn't fully understand right from wrong, nor could he understand the possible implications of such actions.

Forbidding your child from taking part in actions that could have severe consequences is hardly "child abuse." Allowing your child to do whatever he/she pleases, is much more akin to that.


But thank you for answering my earlier question about what's wrong with people.

Thanks for your opinion.

The child abuse comment I made was in reference to forcing personal religious beliefs on a child. I would also agree that allowing them to run rampant would be classified the same. There are ways, however, to find a middle ground.

Furthermore, forbidding you child from anything doesn't stop them from doing it, it just gets them into trouble if the get caught doing it. It's just like a law...it doesn't stop anything, it just offers punishments if you choose to do it and get caught. In my experience very VERY few children fully obey every instruction of their parents. That's why it's such a massively ineffective tool. Compassion, understanding, and education are far more valuable and more likely to achieve the desired results.

I can completely see how you mistook me for a 15 year old though...after all, correct grammer, advanced vocabulary, well thought out responses, established patterns of critical thinking in responses...yup, I'm a child all right. Whereas your continual cheap shots and completely unreasoned arguments mark you a wise elder.

Psh.
 

alm4rr

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I guess we know what that 14 yr old is trying to figure out morning, noon, and night
 

PeeluckyDuckee

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Either way, he'll do it whether you know about it or not. It's not one of those things where he comes to you for permission. Age withholding, he'll get it any chance he gets.

 

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Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
I'm 32, have a degree, served in the military during time of war, and have children...I don't think there are many people who could define mature in a way that doesn't cover me. :cool:
Well, I'm sorry that I mistook you for a 15 year-old... It's just that is how you carry yourself.

A 14 year-old doesn't fully understand right from wrong, nor could he understand the possible implications of such actions.

Forbidding your child from taking part in actions that could have severe consequences is hardly "child abuse." Allowing your child to do whatever he/she pleases, is much more akin to that.


But thank you for answering my earlier question about what's wrong with people.

Thanks for your opinion.

The child abuse comment I made was in reference to forcing personal religious beliefs on a child. I would also agree that allowing them to run rampant would be classified the same. There are ways, however, to find a middle ground.

Furthermore, forbidding you child from anything doesn't stop them from doing it, it just gets them into trouble if the get caught doing it. It's just like a law...it doesn't stop anything, it just offers punishments if you choose to do it and get caught. In my experience very VERY few children fully obey every instruction of their parents. That's why it's such a massively ineffective tool. Compassion, understanding, and education are far more valuable and more likely to achieve the desired results.

I can completely see how you mistook me for a 15 year old though...after all, correct grammer, advanced vocabulary, well thought out responses, established patterns of critical thinking in responses...yup, I'm a child all right. Whereas your continual cheap shots and completely unreasoned arguments mark you a wise elder.

Psh.

way to go taking the high road there. you completely have me convinced that you aren't a 15 yr old girl.

yup.

psh.

;)
 

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Originally posted by: Yolner
Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
I'm 32, have a degree, served in the military during time of war, and have children...I don't think there are many people who could define mature in a way that doesn't cover me. :cool:
Well, I'm sorry that I mistook you for a 15 year-old... It's just that is how you carry yourself.

A 14 year-old doesn't fully understand right from wrong, nor could he understand the possible implications of such actions.

Forbidding your child from taking part in actions that could have severe consequences is hardly "child abuse." Allowing your child to do whatever he/she pleases, is much more akin to that.


But thank you for answering my earlier question about what's wrong with people.


Ohh please 14 year olds understand more than you think. When i was 14 i was probably more responsible than most people are at 18. Forbidding your child from doing something will just make them want to do it more. You won't be able to shield a kid from life. You have to tell them how to be safe and let them do their thing because if you dont they will just do it secretly.

that's your opinion, unfortunately you are wrong.

at 14 your PARENTS are responsible for you, at 18 they aren't.

so no matter how much you want to claim that you are responsible at 14, ultimately you are not. your parents are
 

badmouse

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Update (sunday evening): She's been calling here a lot, 32 calls so far in a day and a half, so I printed out the vonage record and took it to my cop neighbor. So next time she called I told her I'd contacted the police. She hasn't called back since, so far.


Thanks for all the comments - I learned a lot!

My feeling is that if he isn't mature enough to make up a good story so that I leave him alone, then he's not mature enough to be sleeping with anyone, much less an older woman. And if she's dumb enough to call MY phone number, then she doesn't deserve any nookie, either.

 

Koing

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Your house your rules but he'll be with her if he wants to. And he doesn't have a cell phone?!

Koing