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Barnaby W. Füi

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Originally posted by: acemcmac
but if I was in a situation with... like a 28 or 29 year old... (I'm an undergrad still, so I think this is a good comparison), I'd explore the whole situation to try to discover any underlying motives, keep my spending in check, stay sober and avoid sex until I have such a handle on the situation that I can be sure it's not going to turn into a runaway train. I'm pretty hard to take advantage of.

I had a relatively short uh... episode with a 27 or 28 year old, and I'm 21. She was pretty much a psycho, but it was me that end up hurting her in the end, because I just couldn't stand her psycho ass anymore and ended up basically having to tell her to go away. Man that was a bad experience.
 
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Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
But you can't expect others to live by your morals...not even when those people are your children and those morals also happen to be laws.

yes you can, especially when it is your child

follow the rules or hit the road

Difference of opinion I guess. I understand and respect individuality too much to attempt personality alteration from external forces...especially when it would be based on personal biases and prejudices and not neutral facts.
 

eigen

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He is still gonna be able to do her if he/she still wants.

Plausible scenario:

Your son borrows friend cell phone at school
Calls girl
Son:Hey whats up
girl: not much
Son:can I come over
girl " dont you have class
son: I will skip 6th and 7th period
girl:eek:kay


son gets on the bus or bums a ride then knocks the bottom out of this psycho..You have no concept of what a 14yr boy will do to nail a 21 yr old. I hooked up with a 19 yr old when I was 15 and I would have murdered my whole family to sneak out at nite with her.My mom didnt care cause she wa just happy I wasnt gay.
 

Muadib

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I don't envy you badmouse. Your kid's gonna do anything & everything to be with that girl. Your best bet is to make sure he knows how to protect himself, because you can't be with him 24/7.
 

Siva

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I guess from the perspective of a parent you did the right thing but.... come on!!!!!!!!!! She's 21 and hot by your own admission. Not only could your son get some, but she can buy him booze. That's just everything a 14 year old can dream of, you just ruined his life forever.

Get him some condoms and let the boy mack it. Its for his own good.
 

oogabooga

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i think you did the right thing, wth does a 21 yr old girl see in a 14 yr old boy.
 

Wingznut

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Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
But you can't expect others to live by your morals...not even when those people are your children and those morals also happen to be laws.
yes you can, especially when it is your child

follow the rules or hit the road
Difference of opinion I guess. I understand and respect individuality too much to attempt personality alteration from external forces...especially when it would be based on personal biases and prejudices and not neutral facts.
Please do not have children until you mature.

It is the parents' PRIMARY JOB to lead a child to do what's right... Not to allow them to do whatever they want, whenever they want, which whomever they want.

badmouse completely did the right thing... The boy needs a parent, not a friend.



What is wrong with people? When I was 21, going out with a kid in Jr Freakin' High never entered my mind. I would've been wholly embarrassed if my friends knew I was scammin' on a 14 year old.
 

WyteWatt

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That 21 year old is sick.

This is the extact reason I won't have kids. Its not worth it. It really isn't.
 

Deeko

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Let the poor boy get some ass! At least he isn't taking advantage of other 14 year olds :p
 

WyteWatt

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Deeko and YankeezXBA you all are so sick its not even funny. A 14 year old is not even suppose to do that. You people live in a very sick world.


badmouse did the right thing.
 

SirStev0

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hey... where this girl live and can i have her number... since she is available and just got shot down... maybe i can get her on the rebound... itd be great for you, ill take her off your hands...
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: imtim83
That 21 year old is sick.

This is the extact reason I won't have kids. Its not worth it. It really isn't.

No, you won't have kids because no female will breed with you. Even if they did, I'm sure your sperm count is probably non-existent.
 
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Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
But you can't expect others to live by your morals...not even when those people are your children and those morals also happen to be laws.
yes you can, especially when it is your child

follow the rules or hit the road
Difference of opinion I guess. I understand and respect individuality too much to attempt personality alteration from external forces...especially when it would be based on personal biases and prejudices and not neutral facts.
Please do not have children until you mature.

It is the parents' PRIMARY JOB to lead a child to do what's right... Not to allow them to do whatever they want, whenever they want, which whomever they want.

badmouse completely did the right thing... The boy needs a parent, not a friend.



What is wrong with people? When I was 21, going out with a kid in Jr Freakin' High never entered my mind. I would've been wholly embarrassed if my friends knew I was scammin' on a 14 year old.

I'm 32, have a degree, served in the military during time of war, and have children...I don't think there are many people who could define mature in a way that doesn't cover me. :cool:

It is the parents primary job to teach a child to seek to judge right from wrong for themselves. Right and wrong are generally subjective besides a few absolutes (like don't murder). If you're a devout Christian your view of right and wrong may be ENTIRELY different from your childs...and if you're trying to force your subjective beliefs on another human being that it's not good parenting, it's child abuse.

Societal standards mean exactly squat. Personal beliefs are true only to the edge of your own flesh. You want kids to think of consequences, learn critical thinking, develop compassion, and above all else be true to themselves against all forces of society and others.

I never said the person did wrong, only that it was likely that the two would end up together anyway, which they very probably will. It's the parents right to make the rules of their own house, but like it or not children are people too and are going to make up their own minds on things. The best we can hope to do is influence and support, not direct.
 
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Originally posted by: imtim83
Deeko and YankeezXBA you all are so sick its not even funny. A 14 year old is not even suppose to do that. You people live in a very sick world.


badmouse did the right thing.

It is only modern american social constructs derived from puritan extreme religious views which have established that notion. Even 50 years ago marriage at 14-16 was common worldwide. Before 1800 12 was ripe and ready. Certainly this was partially due to shortened lifespan at the time, but moreover it's a function of common tradition.

You can certainly name many reasons why waiting till you're older is better/safer for marriage, childbirth, sex, etc...but you can come up with just about as many reasons to go ahead and do it. What it comes down to is personal choice and the person that makes that choice is the individual, NOT the parent. I accept this fact, even about my own daughter, though it will likely cause some pain I believe it's better overall for growth and understanding.

In short, believe whatever you want, but accept that it's a personal belief with no truth beyond your own flesh.
 

Ameesh

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WOW, you just performed the ultimate cock block considering a 14 year old was gonna get a 21 year old.
 

FuZoR

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so umm... how ugly is this 21 year old to want to get with a 14 year old boy
 

silverpig

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It was "bad" before... now it's "nasty"

Unless you chain him to you he'll prolly nail her. Then she'll dump him and he'll cry. Such is life.
 

WyteWatt

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Originally posted by: Mill
Originally posted by: imtim83
That 21 year old is sick.

This is the extact reason I won't have kids. Its not worth it. It really isn't.

No, you won't have kids because no female will breed with you. Even if they did, I'm sure your sperm count is probably non-existent.


Very funny. i could care a less though. I hope thats true because I don't have to constantly say No. It gets old having to say no. I rather that because I don't feel like wasting power.

 

shimsham

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May 9, 2002
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Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: imtim83
Deeko and YankeezXBA you all are so sick its not even funny. A 14 year old is not even suppose to do that. You people live in a very sick world.


badmouse did the right thing.

It is only modern american social constructs derived from puritan extreme religious views which have established that notion. Even 50 years ago marriage at 14-16 was common worldwide. Before 1800 12 was ripe and ready. Certainly this was partially due to shortened lifespan at the time, but moreover it's a function of common tradition.

You can certainly name many reasons why waiting till you're older is better/safer for marriage, childbirth, sex, etc...but you can come up with just about as many reasons to go ahead and do it. What it comes down to is personal choice and the person that makes that choice is the individual, NOT the parent. I accept this fact, even about my own daughter, though it will likely cause some pain I believe it's better overall for growth and understanding.

In short, believe whatever you want, but accept that it's a personal belief with no truth beyond your own flesh.


while what you say is true about the age being much younger, choices made at those ages have much dire consequences in the modern day us. back then youd get married at 14 because farmer john up the road needed a "woman" to clean and have little johns to work the farm/family business, and take care of him in his old age. not to mention that way too many times, young women were severly mistreated in those situations.

these days, if a boy or girl gets pregnant at 14 ( as my wifes nephew did knocking up his gf of 15), i think we can all say that statistically their potential in life becomes severly limited if not all washed away.

but hey, let em go bang it and catch herpes. its all natural, whats the big deal? right....
 

PlatinumGold

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a female is physically most ready to concieve and give birth between 16 and 18. a male is at his sexual peek at 18.

a female that gives birth before the age of 18 is more likely to have a healthy life (physically).

society has taught us and ingrained in us the fact that people 18 and younger are not actually people and not capable of making responsible decisions. that's just not true.

i don't disagree with the actions of the OP, but the facts are, it's more based on societal expectations than on natural laws.
 

halik

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Originally posted by: eigen
He is still gonna be able to do her if he/she still wants.

Plausible scenario:

Your son borrows friend cell phone at school
Calls girl
Son:Hey whats up
girl: not much
Son:can I come over
girl " dont you have class
son: I will skip 6th and 7th period
girl:eek:kay


son gets on the bus or bums a ride then knocks the bottom out of this psycho..You have no concept of what a 14yr boy will do to nail a 21 yr old. I hooked up with a 19 yr old when I was 15 and I would have murdered my whole family to sneak out at nite with her.My mom didnt care cause she wa just happy I wasnt gay.

LMFAO!!!!