Paramount poised to drop HD DVD

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destrekor

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Baloo
Give it a few months, Warner will switch. HD-DVD is cheaper, and fully suppords HD video specifications.
Yep, right now dozens of CE's are lining up to produce more HD DVD Players...no wait they aren't... DOH!!!!


The way between the two formats is over, the next war will be between Blu Ray and Digital with digital winning.

I don't see BD 'losing' to digital streaming content delivery... why? Because there is always going to be a market for physical. No reliance on the internet for movies is going to be a big thing, and right now, the networks across America could not reliably provide the same quality content on BD, hell.. could easily be a few years before streaming HD video rivals BD, if not far longer. And again, even when it does rival the quality, not everyone is going to want to go that route. It's great for rental, but people still like owning films, and that proves easiest to do with physical copies.
I suspect it'll be a decade before we totally rely on streaming video, at least.
BD will probably be around for quite awhile before streaming hurts the market, as the number of HDTV owners is still remarkably low, and I doubt 1440p will make it to market anytime soon. It'll be pointless as the assorted cable and satellite networks definitely cannot handle 1440p/1440i broadcasts.
 

DaveSimmons

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HBO and New Line are going blu too (link stolen from TheDigitalBits.com)
HBO & New-line drop HD-DVD

Universal and Paramount are still "currently" supporting HD-DVD, but both declined to announce any new HD-DVD titles at CES this year.
 

LegendKiller

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: torpid
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
I see absolutely no market for high-def digital downloads for the next 5-10 years. Nobody really has the connection speed to download 30-40gb of files on demand.

Are you sure about that??

Well, it's still about 40 minutes even if you assume in ridiculous fashion that you get the entire 160mbps throughput at all times.
That's next year, what's the mps going to be like in 4 or 5 years? If anything's been constant is that technology has always delivered and there's no reason to believe that the capability to download HD Movies in mere minutes won't possible in the near future.

Please, I live in a building that is ideal for FIOS and I know people with it, even then you're talking about such a small fraction of the population as to make it smaller than the HD DVD portion of HDM. Despite my building being ideal, they have taken 6 months to put the conduits in the walls (mind you, they are build for easy deployment), and they haven't even gotten it into the basement, despite management begging them to do it. AFAIK, my building is one of only a handful in manhattan with FIOS deployed or deploying and one of those has Verizon execs in it.

If there were a place where they could deploy it easier, it'd be hard to find. laying trunks, running to the building, and running through specially designed new buildings should be a no-brainer. However, theory is always easier than reality.

Good luck with your HDM. I barely get 5 movies in On-demand HD with Time warner cable. Compression sucks ass, the movies are usually edited, and the sound blows goats. This is a marginal improvement on when I got On-Demand first 5 years ago in Orlando.

I do not see cable companies opening up bandwidth for 50gb movies, studios allowing storage, and storage so easy as to store even 10 movies locally. Good luck with a enthusiast keeping 200+ movies in a RAID array, since you need that to make it as reliable as discs. When they can get a 10TB RAID5 array easily, with the studios allowing full digital content to be copied stored easily, within the next 5 years, I'll eat my shorts.

Otherwise, you're dreaming.
 

SlickSnake

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The economy is in the toilet, worldwide, and the studios are looking for any new source of income to save their parasitic butts. If Sony wants to give them ??? millions to jump ship and make money for nothing, they are all over that all you can eat buffet. But the same clauses that might get studios out of HD deals will also get them out of Blu-Ray ones when their sales numbers in high def go down even further due to Sony's legendary poor support of their numerous failed media formats.

All those kiddies with PS3's their parents bought them does not mean those kids have the cash to plunk down mega bucks for Blu-Ray movies in bulk. My feeling is this is a temporary market swing that will only benefit the studios in the short term quarter, unless Sony's payola spreads out over a year or more. Once the greedy studios milk this new Sony cash cow dry, they will move back to cheaper and greener pastures. We can only hope Sony buries themselves financially sooner rather than later to finally end their multiple futile attempts at consumer market manipulation once and for all.
 

Andres3605

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Originally posted by: SlickSnake
The economy is in the toilet, worldwide, and the studios are looking for any new source of income to save their parasitic butts. If Sony wants to give them ??? millions to jump ship and make money for nothing, they are all over that all you can eat buffet. But the same clauses that might get studios out of HD deals will also get them out of Blu-Ray ones when their sales numbers in high def go down even further due to Sony's legendary poor support of their numerous failed media formats.

All those kiddies with PS3's their parents bought them does not mean those kids have the cash to plunk down mega bucks for Blu-Ray movies in bulk. My feeling is this is a temporary market swing that will only benefit the studios in the short term quarter, unless Sony's payola spreads out over a year or more. Once the greedy studios milk this new Sony cash cow dry, they will move back to cheaper and greener pastures. We can only hope Sony buries themselves financially sooner rather than later to finally end their multiple futile attempts at consumer market manipulation once and for all.

Woah, I have a PS3 and don't really get included in your generalization, i bought my console mainly as a game machine ( Metal gear solid 4, GT5....), and the blue ray player and media hub as "added features",

I just sense the bias and the bitterness just because the "kiddies" helped a format, if you played the format wars game it was YOUR risk, what sony and toshiba do is mainly business (paramount, warner) and eveyone was aware of that.
 
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Originally posted by: Andres3605
Originally posted by: SlickSnake
The economy is in the toilet, worldwide, and the studios are looking for any new source of income to save their parasitic butts. If Sony wants to give them ??? millions to jump ship and make money for nothing, they are all over that all you can eat buffet. But the same clauses that might get studios out of HD deals will also get them out of Blu-Ray ones when their sales numbers in high def go down even further due to Sony's legendary poor support of their numerous failed media formats.

All those kiddies with PS3's their parents bought them does not mean those kids have the cash to plunk down mega bucks for Blu-Ray movies in bulk. My feeling is this is a temporary market swing that will only benefit the studios in the short term quarter, unless Sony's payola spreads out over a year or more. Once the greedy studios milk this new Sony cash cow dry, they will move back to cheaper and greener pastures. We can only hope Sony buries themselves financially sooner rather than later to finally end their multiple futile attempts at consumer market manipulation once and for all.

Woah, I have a PS3 and don't really get included in your generalization, i bought my console mainly as a game machine ( Metal gear solid 4, GT5....), and the blue ray player and media hub as "added features",

I just sense the bias and the bitterness just because the "kiddies" helped a format, if you played the format wars game it was YOUR risk, what sony and toshiba do is mainly business (paramount, warner) and eveyone was aware of that.

exactly, what he said could easily be edited to say the same thing for Paramount and HDDVD.
another bitter fanboi.
 

destrekor

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btw, this whole thing is epic:

The titan Warner issues a statement they will be going blu in 5 months(! not even immediately), and immediately it seems Universal and Paramount are poised to jump ship immediately; however they both are waiting for the other to jump and break the ice :)laugh:) first. :p