Paramount poised to drop HD DVD

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: jandrews
I am glad I waited as well, personally I thought hd-dvd was going to win, it seemed to be the cheaper more universal media. Sony lost the betamax/vhs wars back in the day I was kind of suprised to see them back in it again especially against such high odds.

Anyway, these threads are funny where you see people try to justify their hd dvd purchase by saying it was cheap blah blah blah but we all know it will be sitting in the closet with the hd dvd movies in a few years lol.

what odds was sony against?
they had superior technology, more hardware supporters and most importantly more studios backing them.

the only negative was the higher price tag.
unless you're one of those who think it's cool to diss sony.

or are you referring to betamax? if so, the past is not a good indication of the future.

Minidisc, DAT, MMCD, ATRAC, SDDS, Memory Sticks, and UMD ring any bells?

 

[zinfamous]

well, i do remember back in October/November when it was reported that Warner was going Blu Ray exclusive, based on "rumors." Warner denied that then.

Certainly, it's bad for well-respected publications to report based on rumors, but most of these companies have legitimate sources, and don't tend to publish anything unless it's from one of their trusted sources.

It seems that HD DVD-only supporters don't trust the CEO of Warner when he denies pay-offs from Sony, yet they are willing to trust Paramount when they deny dropping exclusivity....

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Originally posted by: mrrman

Originally posted by: Toasthead
so exactly how much is SOny paying these studios to do this? YOu know they arent just Choosing to...

I heard Warner got $500M....I bet Sony is paying these guys off to save their POS devices that would cost the Corp big time if HD DVD succeded.

I heard Paramount got $170M....I bet Toshiba is paying these guys off to save their POS devices that would cost the Corp big time if Blu-ray succeded.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: jandrews
I am glad I waited as well, personally I thought hd-dvd was going to win, it seemed to be the cheaper more universal media. Sony lost the betamax/vhs wars back in the day I was kind of suprised to see them back in it again especially against such high odds.

Anyway, these threads are funny where you see people try to justify their hd dvd purchase by saying it was cheap blah blah blah but we all know it will be sitting in the closet with the hd dvd movies in a few years lol.

what odds was sony against?
they had superior technology, more hardware supporters and most importantly more studios backing them.

the only negative was the higher price tag.
unless you're one of those who think it's cool to diss sony.

or are you referring to betamax? if so, the past is not a good indication of the future.

Minidisc, DAT, MMCD, ATRAC, SDDS, Memory Sticks, and UMD ring any bells?

minidisc - dead, mp3 players killed it
DAT - still used
MMCD - no clue what this is
ATRAC - compression algorithm?, not sure why this was brought up
SDDS - see above
memory stick - still alive and heavily used today (PSP, cameras)
UMD - not competing with any other format

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: Special K

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Transformers was worth it!!!!!!11

Ditto, I don't feel bad for my HD-DVD purchase. Can anyone blame consumers for not jumping on Sonys bandwagon when they screwed us years ago (well my parents anway)?

its not sonys fault BataMax lost out, its Pornos fault, Porn chose VHS,

Didn't they also choose HD-DVD over BD though?

Blu Ray initially had restrictions against porn, but has now adopted it. some studios are releasing on BD I believe. But there is certainly more porn on HD DVD atm.

but...who wants to see HD porn?

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: jandrews
I am glad I waited as well, personally I thought hd-dvd was going to win, it seemed to be the cheaper more universal media. Sony lost the betamax/vhs wars back in the day I was kind of suprised to see them back in it again especially against such high odds.

Anyway, these threads are funny where you see people try to justify their hd dvd purchase by saying it was cheap blah blah blah but we all know it will be sitting in the closet with the hd dvd movies in a few years lol.

what odds was sony against?
they had superior technology, more hardware supporters and most importantly more studios backing them.

the only negative was the higher price tag.
unless you're one of those who think it's cool to diss sony.

or are you referring to betamax? if so, the past is not a good indication of the future.

Minidisc, DAT, MMCD, ATRAC, SDDS, Memory Sticks, and UMD ring any bells?

minidisc - dead, mp3 players killed it
DAT - still used
MMCD - no clue what this is
ATRAC - compression algorithm?, not sure why this was brought up
SDDS - see above
memory stick - still alive and heavily used today (PSP, cameras)
UMD - not competing with any other format

The point is that Sony's track record for pushing their own home cooked formats/mediums has been pretty piss poor. Re: Betamax.

 

[randay]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: Special K

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Transformers was worth it!!!!!!11

Ditto, I don't feel bad for my HD-DVD purchase. Can anyone blame consumers for not jumping on Sonys bandwagon when they screwed us years ago (well my parents anway)?

its not sonys fault BataMax lost out, its Pornos fault, Porn chose VHS,

Didn't they also choose HD-DVD over BD though?

Blu Ray initially had restrictions against porn, but has now adopted it. some studios are releasing on BD I believe. But there is certainly more porn on HD DVD atm.

but...who wants to see HD porn?

hey, gunshot wounds and c-section scars can be sexy!

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: Special K

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Transformers was worth it!!!!!!11

Ditto, I don't feel bad for my HD-DVD purchase. Can anyone blame consumers for not jumping on Sonys bandwagon when they screwed us years ago (well my parents anway)?

its not sonys fault BataMax lost out, its Pornos fault, Porn chose VHS,

Didn't they also choose HD-DVD over BD though?

Blu Ray initially had restrictions against porn, but has now adopted it. some studios are releasing on BD I believe. But there is certainly more porn on HD DVD atm.

but...who wants to see HD porn?

Me! And I want to stream it wirelessly through my media center on to a huge HDTV! Why? Because I am a geek and a man. These things amuse me.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: Special K

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Transformers was worth it!!!!!!11

Ditto, I don't feel bad for my HD-DVD purchase. Can anyone blame consumers for not jumping on Sonys bandwagon when they screwed us years ago (well my parents anway)?

its not sonys fault BataMax lost out, its Pornos fault, Porn chose VHS,

Didn't they also choose HD-DVD over BD though?

Blu Ray initially had restrictions against porn, but has now adopted it. some studios are releasing on BD I believe. But there is certainly more porn on HD DVD atm.

but...who wants to see HD porn?

It was only on a 42" set, but it actually looked really good.

That's uhhh....that's what my friend tells me...

 

[jandrews]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: jandrews
I am glad I waited as well, personally I thought hd-dvd was going to win, it seemed to be the cheaper more universal media. Sony lost the betamax/vhs wars back in the day I was kind of suprised to see them back in it again especially against such high odds.

Anyway, these threads are funny where you see people try to justify their hd dvd purchase by saying it was cheap blah blah blah but we all know it will be sitting in the closet with the hd dvd movies in a few years lol.

what odds was sony against?
they had superior technology, more hardware supporters and most importantly more studios backing them.

the only negative was the higher price tag.
unless you're one of those who think it's cool to diss sony.

or are you referring to betamax? if so, the past is not a good indication of the future.

They didnt have more studios backing them until what, a few days ago? I was referring to betamax, heck, I may as well refer to the minidisc too. The past is almost always a strong indictation of the future in just about every area.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: mrrman

Originally posted by: Toasthead
so exactly how much is SOny paying these studios to do this? YOu know they arent just Choosing to...

I heard Warner got $500M....I bet Sony is paying these guys off to save their POS devices that would cost the Corp big time if HD DVD succeded.

no less of a rumor than the Paramount one. so...why do you guys pick and choose your rumors? I'm willing to believe and accept that Warner was indeed paid off, it makes since, Paramount was certainly paid off by the HD DVD group, but there are still just as many facts behind that as there are behind this latest Paramount issue

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: Special K

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Transformers was worth it!!!!!!11

Ditto, I don't feel bad for my HD-DVD purchase. Can anyone blame consumers for not jumping on Sonys bandwagon when they screwed us years ago (well my parents anway)?

its not sonys fault BataMax lost out, its Pornos fault, Porn chose VHS,

Didn't they also choose HD-DVD over BD though?

Blu Ray initially had restrictions against porn, but has now adopted it. some studios are releasing on BD I believe. But there is certainly more porn on HD DVD atm.

but...who wants to see HD porn?

It was only on a 42" set, but it actually looked really good.

That's uhhh....that's what my friend tells me...

so this thread is now about HD porn? excellent!

 

[RossMAN]

Originally posted by: oldsmoboat

Originally posted by: RossMAN

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: kranky
Would this be the first win for Sony in a format war... ever?

Congrats to them, I'm still not forking over $400+ to them for a PS3 just to watch movies.

Neither am I. I no longer feel the need to be on the bleeding edge of technology. So I'll just wait it out.

When BluRay players hit $100, new movies are consistently $15 and they're readily available through Netflix/BlockBuster then I'll buy one.

By then, we'll be on to SHD-DVD.

*sigh* That's what I was afraid of. Damn you technology!

Originally posted by: Shawn

Originally posted by: RossMAN

Originally posted by: kranky
Would this be the first win for Sony in a format war... ever?

I'm not taking any chances, I'll be returning my $99 Toshiba HD-DVD to Walmart for a full refund. I'll wait until this stupid format war is over and there is a clear winner. Besides my $59 Toshiba upconverting DVD player does a satisfactory job on our 50" DLP.

Why would you return it? You should be able to rent HD DVDs for quite a while longer. Warner is still releasing HD DVDs until May. That's 5 more months. It's not like you won't get your $99 worth.

Yes I won't get the 5 free movies but the choices were poor.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Originally posted by: jandrews

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: jandrews
I am glad I waited as well, personally I thought hd-dvd was going to win, it seemed to be the cheaper more universal media. Sony lost the betamax/vhs wars back in the day I was kind of suprised to see them back in it again especially against such high odds.

Anyway, these threads are funny where you see people try to justify their hd dvd purchase by saying it was cheap blah blah blah but we all know it will be sitting in the closet with the hd dvd movies in a few years lol.

what odds was sony against?
they had superior technology, more hardware supporters and most importantly more studios backing them.

the only negative was the higher price tag.
unless you're one of those who think it's cool to diss sony.

or are you referring to betamax? if so, the past is not a good indication of the future.

They didnt have more studios backing them until what, a few days ago? I was referring to betamax, heck, I may as well refer to the minidisc too. The past is almost always a strong indictation of the future in just about every area.

i believe they did have more exclusive studios off the bat, disney being the huge one.
the rest were smaller and the others were being released in both formats.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: vi_edit

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: jandrews
I am glad I waited as well, personally I thought hd-dvd was going to win, it seemed to be the cheaper more universal media. Sony lost the betamax/vhs wars back in the day I was kind of suprised to see them back in it again especially against such high odds.

Anyway, these threads are funny where you see people try to justify their hd dvd purchase by saying it was cheap blah blah blah but we all know it will be sitting in the closet with the hd dvd movies in a few years lol.

what odds was sony against?
they had superior technology, more hardware supporters and most importantly more studios backing them.

the only negative was the higher price tag.
unless you're one of those who think it's cool to diss sony.

or are you referring to betamax? if so, the past is not a good indication of the future.

Minidisc, DAT, MMCD, ATRAC, SDDS, Memory Sticks, and UMD ring any bells?

minidisc - dead, mp3 players killed it
DAT - still used
MMCD - no clue what this is
ATRAC - compression algorithm?, not sure why this was brought up
SDDS - see above
memory stick - still alive and heavily used today (PSP, cameras)
UMD - not competing with any other format

The point is that Sony's track record for pushing their own home cooked formats/mediums has been pretty piss poor. Re: Betamax.

my point was the odds were NOT against sony in this round.
they have the better technology (meaningless since Beta was superior to VHS, though in the HD world storage is more important now), they had better studios from the start (sony, disney), and they have the PS3 with onboard BD support.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
I heard Paramount got $170M....I bet Toshiba is paying these guys off to save their POS devices that would cost the Corp big time if Blu-ray succeded.

There's nothing wrong with the devices. The stand alone HD DVD players are far better than the stand alone BR players that cost twice as much at the moment. The only BR player worth buying at the moment is the PS3, which costs roughly 5 times what I paid for an A2; But it is probably 5 times as cool, unlike the stand alone players which are half as cool.

They do want to save the format, but that's because they make money off of every sale of an HD DVD.

 

[sswingle]

I still have a VCR plugged in, and it hasnt seen a tape in 5 years. I have no problem keeping my HD DVD player connected to watch the 40 movies I have. (40 so far, plan on getting many for cheap when the firesales hit)

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: jandrews

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: jandrews
I am glad I waited as well, personally I thought hd-dvd was going to win, it seemed to be the cheaper more universal media. Sony lost the betamax/vhs wars back in the day I was kind of suprised to see them back in it again especially against such high odds.

Anyway, these threads are funny where you see people try to justify their hd dvd purchase by saying it was cheap blah blah blah but we all know it will be sitting in the closet with the hd dvd movies in a few years lol.

what odds was sony against?
they had superior technology, more hardware supporters and most importantly more studios backing them.

the only negative was the higher price tag.
unless you're one of those who think it's cool to diss sony.

or are you referring to betamax? if so, the past is not a good indication of the future.

They didnt have more studios backing them until what, a few days ago? I was referring to betamax, heck, I may as well refer to the minidisc too. The past is almost always a strong indictation of the future in just about every area.

i believe they did have more exclusive studios off the bat, disney being the huge one.
the rest were smaller and the others were being released in both formats.

If Disney had been at least neutral, HD would have easily won. The obscene amount of $$$ they likely received probably rivals the GDP of many small countries.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
my point was the odds were NOT against sony in this round.
they have the better technology (meaningless since Beta was superior to VHS, though in the HD world storage is more important now), they had better studios from the start (sony, disney), and they have the PS3 with onboard BD support.

Storage doesn't seem that important. The cost of the media is still apparently quite low, considering that Blade Runner is on 5 discs and still costs $30 or less most places, which is the same or lower than most BD/HD DVD.

 

[OUCaptain]

Originally posted by: Modelworks
I'm still going to wait about 6 months before I purchase a hd player.
Too much conjecture going on right now.

:thumbsup:

 

[Modelworks]

I'm actually more interested in recordable storage on the pc.
Dual Layer dvd blanks never really got all that cheap and blu-ray blanks pricing is crazy.

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: kt

Originally posted by: dainthomas

Originally posted by: jandrews
I am glad I waited as well, personally I thought hd-dvd was going to win, it seemed to be the cheaper more universal media. Sony lost the betamax/vhs wars back in the day I was kind of suprised to see them back in it again especially against such high odds.

Anyway, these threads are funny where you see people try to justify their hd dvd purchase by saying it was cheap blah blah blah but we all know it will be sitting in the closet with the hd dvd movies in a few years lol.

Why? My copies of Bourne, MI 1-3, Serenity, Transformers, 300 etc etc will not degrade in visual quality because some corporation switched format support.

At worst I'll have to pick up an extra player to use when/if my A2 dies (or a dual format player if they get cheap). That should carry me through until we're all wirelessly streaming HD movies into our robotic brain implants, just like Microsoft planned.

You're a brave man for even thinking about implanting something into your brain that runs on Microsoft platform.

It's either that or a Sony robotic brain implant with built-in rootkits and DRM.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: kranky
Would this be the first win for Sony in a format war... ever?

At least until HD-DVD2 comes out and crushes Blu-ray.

 

[Shawn]

http://www.engadgethd.com/2008...e-hd-dvd-format-curre/

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Originally posted by: torpid

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo
my point was the odds were NOT against sony in this round.
they have the better technology (meaningless since Beta was superior to VHS, though in the HD world storage is more important now), they had better studios from the start (sony, disney), and they have the PS3 with onboard BD support.

Storage doesn't seem that important. The cost of the media is still apparently quite low, considering that Blade Runner is on 5 discs and still costs $30 or less most places, which is the same or lower than most BD/HD DVD.

uncompressed audio.